Re: Ainge to Globe:
posted at 7/2/2013 12:52 AM EDT
In response to BirdLewsBias' comment:
In response to hops29's comment:
Here is my take on Olynyk....Too slow to play the 4. Too weak to play the 5.
He is a liability on D at both positions. Can't rebound or block shots, short arms, bad lateral movement, turnover prone, terrible vert, strength at the combine was mediocre at best.
So please don't try to sell him to me as a special player. I'm not buying it.
As far as giving up decent players, That package of garbage and 3 picks is a definitive far future move. Not one of those guys is going to help us win, in fact they will probably ensure the opposite. And Rondo is the next to go, more than likely for another expiring contract and more picks.
How is this not a tank?
Ok well what would've been your plan? It's easy to be Johnny come lately and crticize all the moves but what choice did Ainge have? He turned 3 guys into 4 #1 picks...and 2 of those players will be done in 2 years. The Celtics may still be making picks when KG and PP are on the beach.
Let's hear what you would've done......I'll wait.
I just feel that people are too afraid of being a 4 or 5 seed team. It isn't a good place if you are an aging team. But, if you add a Millsap, Big Al, Aldridge, or J.Smith to Rondo, Green, Sully, and Bradley then IMO you have the building block for a very good, very entertaining team that has a 5 year window. With that type of team you may actually be able to draw some halfway decent Free Agents in '15 and '16. That team has a much better chance of evolving into a championship contender in the next 3 years than a tanking team starting from scratch does.
I was also surprised that DA didn't pursue harder trying to get the player exception for PP and then force KG to make a decision. I have a very hard time believing he would just retire. Maybe he stays if he knows that DA and ownership are still trying to win, maybe he opens up the places he is willing to be traded. Either way I think you get more for PP and KG if you trade them seperately.
However these are all subject to personal feelings, this is my opinion. And maybe this was Danny's plan but the opportunities were never avail. I can even see the value in trying to build through the draft, but at least put something on the court we can enjoy watching!
Which brings me to my biggest disappointment so far this off season. The drafting of Kelly Olynyk. Obviously I am not enamored with this guy as said in my earlier post. I know he is a skilled offensive player. But the Celtics bigs seriously lack in three areas: rebounding, rim protection, and pick and roll D. Especially now that KG is gone. So they trade to move up for a guy who's biggest weakness' are: rebounding, rim protection, and pick and roll D.
He does what he does very well, I just personally don't get excited about watching jump shooting seven footers who can't rebound or jump. They passed up a bruising high speed athletic shot blocker in Plumlee, and a potential future defensive force in Dieng.
I can still be a Celtic fan and not agree with everything my team does.