Antoine can still do some good things on the court, let's bring him to camp at least...

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    No, Coach.  Who needs the distraction.  This is a very important camp for the C's and Antoine has always struck me as a guy who just doesn't get it.  He's not a big picture kind of guy, his focus is almost always on himself and that should be more in evidence given his situation.  The C's need to get back to Umbunto or whatever team concept Doc comes up with this year.  Shaq coming here and maybe Delonte (I hope) will be distractions enough. I always had a soft spot for Toine, but his time has come and gone, at least with the C's, I hope.  If he's still got it, and the jury is out on that, he will get a chance with some team, and I wish him every success.  It would be nice to see him come on the court in the Garden for another team.  He's still younger than quite a few NBA players.
     
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    How many ways can you say, "NO"!  He's gone in more ways than one, so we should let this go away too.
     
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    Antoine is not more into himself than the avg NBA player. In fact if he was as bad as you think, why did he play on all those awful Celtic teams and not go Chris Paul or Chris Bosh on us?

    These all-stars who jumped ship and want to jump ship all are on better teams than Toine labored on honorably and faithfully.

    X-factor- A proud man with good skill and extremely high motivation to prove he still has something an NBA team needs. What I call a + + + + +.
     
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    Walker??? Muahahahahaha what a stiff that guy is. Remind me, how many championships did walker and wheelchair win together? Lmao.
     
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    No to 'Toine!!!!!!

    &

    NO to Delonte West
     
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    Antoine Walker at 34 years old to play SF? 

    HAHAHA!!!
     
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    Da Celtics -  I do love your enthusiasm, even if it is a bit misguided. One question. Are you an NBA scout? It seems like you have some insight that the 34 year old felon still has some game left. Where have you seen him play over the last few months that would suggest that Walker still has game?....he certainly doesn't have game in casinos!
     
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    No no no no no. WAY too much of a distraction. It would be akin to Manny coming to the Red Sox. Also I read he is something like 100 million dollars in debt.
     
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    I think having someone who was once the emotional leader of the Celtics, whose biggest capability was as a distributor (now not needed due to Rondo), whose next asset was spotty three point shooting (who could not be brought in as a three point specialist now as he is too old and slow and inaccurate), who is barely hanging onto the association and is $100 million in debt would be GREAT for the locker room and something to really energize the young guys. 

    In all seriousness I respect Antoine but this is a bad idea. I hope he gets a chance with another team.
     
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    If twon sticks on a roster, it's going to be a mediocre team giving him the chance, probably at vet min and then if he shows he has something to offer to a contender then look for a late season buyout and him going to a contender. 

    Regardless of all that, we are all set at the 4 on this team.  All twon could do for us is bench warm.  For his own financial sake he needs to be out on the floor in as big a role as he can command.  I don't think even twon would want to come to bean town one last time given our roster.  He's not going to get any run over Garnett / Big Baby.

    We need a 3, not a 4.
     
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    I hear Zimbabwe is starting a league....I suggest he tries out for a team there lmao!
     
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    Again, peanut gallery.  Way to add to the convo with your unfunny one liners. 
     
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    Good post DaCeltics, I'll only correct you on one point.  Antoine was the starting small forward in every playoff game for the 06 champion Heat, and really came up big in the second round vs the Nets...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXkIXuoGVbw

    He was also Miami's second leading scorer in the finals that year.  Came up big in the 07 playoffs as well but it got little attention.

    I'd love him in the 15th man role as I don't think we can ever have enough forwards, and Walker can play the 3 and the 4.  Over a month ago I was on here saying we should go in this direction.  He's in great shape, has always wanted to win a championship with the Celtics and isn't afraid of the big stage.  He's what I would want in an understudy.   

    John Ourand from the Sports Business Journal tweeted this week that Walker would be trying out for the Charlotte Bobcats.  His best chances of landing on an NBA roster are probably Charlotte, Golden State, Indiana and New Orleans.  But that would be great if he came back home, a great fit for both Walker and the Celtics.   

    Hey KB24RULZ--I mean this sincerely, Walker would be a great fit for the Lakers since Luke Walton is likely done for the year.  Answer me honestly, who would you rather have, Walker or Walton?  Walker could replace Walton's passing skills and would be a great fit in the triangle with his ability to get hot from 3.  He was always great at setting up Pierce and could translate this talent to helping out Kobe as well.  If Mitch Kupchak was smart he'd give Walker a tryout and a serious look for your final open roster spot.   
     
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    As for the talk that Walker would be a distraction, I don't agree at all.  He's always been a good teammate and source of fiery leadership.  In game 6 of the 06 finals when Wade and Shaq were gassed, it was Walker leading the team huddle.  It didn't show up in the stat sheet but Walker was a great support system for Wade just as he had been for Pierce.  Yes, Wade was brilliant, but it's my opinion that Walker helped him feel more at ease out there and gave him belief.  Even at the recent Miami Thrice press conference Wade was invoking Walker.  Garnett and Jermaine O'Neal both really respect the guy as I alluded to last month... Garnett sought out Walker when he was on the fence about coming here, and O'Neal sought out Walker to learn about O'Brien.  If anyone is going to be a distraction on this team it's Shaq or West, but Walker is the type of glue lockerroom guy that can further assist the Big 3 in holding everything together behind the scenes.

    I still maintain, if the Cavs had Antoine Walker last year they may have had a shot... mostly because Lebron needed someone to snap him the bleep out of his quitness routine.    
     
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    Where's the invite Danny???  Frown  Training camp starts in 2 weeks!
     
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    For all the guys out there who are hating on 'Toine cut it out. Is he a misguided gambleholic? Yes! 'Toine has always been a very talented basketball player hoever at this time in his career he is not what the Celtics are in need of,they need a defensive presence off the bench as they already have enough offensive bench players. I do wish Antoine Walker well and hope he finds a team who could use his services.
     
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    c'mon

    Antoine Walker is a jerk.  I am a more intelligent player than Antoine Walker WAS.  WAS because he is a has-been.  I couln't care less about his personal life and financial problems, he is a lousy basketball player.  Never developed a single reliable post move at 6-10; that's just ridiculous.  Refuses to rebound and takes unwarranted threes...just what we need after unburdening ourselves from Rasheed Wallace...another Rasheed Wallace.  Plus, he is a tub of jello.  I remember the end of his first stint in Boston he had damn strech marks you could see on his shoulders.  No wonder he had no post skills, he had no strength to stand up straight with his back to the basket.  I keep thinking this is a joke...it has to be a joke.  Oh yeah, regardless of your opinion of Rondo, he is a prototypical point guard; the most DYNAMIC we have had at that position since Tiny (Sorry DJ, love ya but it's a fact).  So bring in Antoine 'ball hog' or 'point power forward' Walker and take Rondo out of the game entirely.  When Antoine Walker is on the floor it's 4 against 5.  There is no point in the point when Walker the self-appointed 'point power forward' is on the floor.  He'd rather push the ball himself than get on a block.  That's STUPID basketball.  Antoine is stupid.  His entire game is pushing the ball regardless of an all star point guard and hoisting ill-advised threes.  Please, cut the crap with Antoine, his last act was waived by a Puerto Rican team.
     
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    If he is heading anywhere I think it'll be the bobcats(he is visiting his buddy nazr mohammaed around this time.
     
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    Sorry, Toineson... I appreciate your enthusiasm for Walker but I think your passion is misdirected.   Do you remember when Walker was asked why he took so many 3's he famously answered, "Because there aren't any 4's"?  Walker was happy to take low percentage shots that had the higher PAYOFFS...  I think there's a parallel with Walker's offensive strategy and his gambling problem. 

    The thing that was so frustrating to me about Walker was that back in the day, he had talent.   He could move well for a big man and had great passing skills.   But he played little defense and misused his talent.   Remember when Walker was in the 3 Point Shootout and came in dead last?   You would think that might have sent a message about his 3 point shooting ability, but Antoine refused to acknowledge it.   The Celtics need smarter players than that.  
     
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    [QUOTE]Sorry, Toineson... I appreciate your enthusiasm for Walker but I think your passion is misdirected.   Do you remember when Walker was asked why he took so many 3's he famously answered, "Because there aren't any 4's"?  Walker was happy to take low percentage shots that had the higher PAYOFFS...  I think there's a parallel with Walker's offensive strategy and his gambling problem.  The thing that was so frustrating to me about Walker was that back in the day, he had talent.   He could move well for a big man and had great passing skills.   But he played little defense and misused his talent.   Remember when Walker was in the 3 Point Shootout and came in dead last?   You would think that might have sent a message about his 3 point shooting ability, but Antoine refused to acknowledge it.   The Celtics need smarter players than that.  
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    Keep a few things in mind...

    1).  In 2001-02 Antoine Walker led the NBA in minutes played... if he was really such a poor defender then I find it even more remarkable that Boston was third in the league in opponents' field goal % that season.  True, he wasn't a great defender and relatively speaking wasn't the most athletic or that good of a leaper, but I don't think he was as big of a liability on this end of the court as many like to portray him as.  

    2).  Keep in mind Jim O'Brien's preferred style of play (which proved to be effective... bombs away!)... In 2002-03, Walker and Paul Pierce both had effective field goal %'s at 45%, indicating that they were both gunners.  An undrafted rookie (J.R. Bremer) was forced to start half of our games at point guard that year... so Walker was essentially our point forward, I mean we were pretty hard up for talent around our dynamic duo--and with no point guard to set them up, it's not surprising that Walker shot 32% from three that year and Pierce shot 30%.  Walker was oftentimes playing hurt and trying to do as much as he could to help us win. 

    http://hoopshype.com/columns/walker_osullivan.htm

    "He is the player he is because of sheer desire. He has willed himself to be an all-star."  100% agree with this.

    Yeah, there's probably zero chance Ainge brings him to camp, but I still maintain that he is exactly the kind of understudy we would want in the playoffs; someone with championship experience who is not afraid of the big stage.  And I still believe that if we had Walker in game 7 to play 5 minutes to spell the regulars when Garnett was gassed, Perk out, Sheed's back acting up... that we would have won it all. 
     
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    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/The-NBA-A-through-Z-Antoine-Walker;_ylt=A2KIRzs.opJMb.4AOpS8vLYF?urn=nba-269882

    this guy makes some good points.  twon was one of those guys who never evolved into a better player- honed his craft so to speak.  he actually got appreciably worse at free throws and rebounding as time went on even the last few years we had him the first time. 

    it must have been frustrating for the organization to watch that sort of lack of focus in a high (top?) paid player.

    pierce has honed 3 point accuracy and remained pretty strong in the fundamentals.

    will this adversity finally force twon to settle down and focus on his game?  after 14 years since his rook year?  i'd say the odds are not strong in favor of it.  but i'd like to see the guy pull through and earn a payday or two.
     
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