Asik stinks!

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    Asik is not as good as Perk so why acquire him and pay him more than Perk wanted? Asik csbt evrn allry-oop on offense! He is sooooooooooooo one dimensional.

     
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    Asik I'd not as good as Perk so why acquire him and pay him more than Perk wanted? Asik csbt evrn allry-oop on offense! He is sooooooooooooo one dimensional.

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    Dude.  Asik IS better than Perk.  Much, much, much better than Perk.  I would seriously even take Fav over Perk.

     
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    Fav like a big small forward who might block a shot from time to time

     
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    Perk is the best power defender against post ups behind Dwight Howard and Perk is a great playmaker and dribbler. Second best lane intimidator.

     
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    In terms of Player Efficiency Ratings for centers, Asik is ranked 40th in the NBA behind Jermaine O'Neal and Vitor Faverani.

    He is, however, ahead of Kelly Olynyk.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/c 

     

     

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    That's crap.

     

    Sometimes the stats don't tell the whole story.

     

    You're a fool if you think Fav and JO are better players than Asik right now.

     

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    Numbers don't lie. Asik isn't that good.

    That why two teams have now passed on him.

     
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    Numbers don't lie. Asik isn't that good.

    That why two teams have now passed on him.

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    This ^

    Asik is an amazing center but nobody wants him.  See how silly that sounds.

     
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    Fav is better than Asik?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



    Fav plays three minutes less per game than Asik; scores more points, has more steals, has more blocks, has more assists, shoots threes...

    Yeah he's better, learn the game.

     
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    Fav plays three minutes less per game than Asik; scores more points, has more steals, has more blocks, has more assists, shoots threes...

    Yeah he's better, learn the game.



    Yeah!

    Keep repeating it!

    HAHAHA

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    Yeah those are actually facts ^ (stats) not opinion. 

    Your assertion is complete opinion with nothing to back it up except "Fierce said so." 

    That is about as legit as someone saying drinking your own urine is good for you on the internet.

     
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    Post some facts or quit flapping your gums.

     
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    Fav plays three minutes less per game than Asik; scores more points, has more steals, has more blocks, has more assists, shoots threes...

    Facts, your opinions are about as valued here as canned farts.

     

     
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    NBA.com makes it really easy for you, they even have a comparison feature allowing you to compare two players... it's child proof so go ahead and give it a try.

     
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    In terms of Player Efficiency Ratings for centers, Asik is ranked 40th in the NBA behind Jermaine O'Neal and Vitor Faverani.

    He is, however, ahead of Kelly Olynyk.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/c 

     

     

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    That's crap.

     

    Sometimes the stats don't tell the whole story.

     

    You're a fool if you think Fav and JO are better players than Asik right now.

     

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    Numbers don't lie. Asik isn't that good.

    That why two teams have now passed on him.

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    You're right the numbers don't lie. The numbers showing how much better a team defense the rockets have had (and the Bulls before) when Asik is on the court. Not to mention the numbers that show what a dominat rebounder he is. 

    Nor the advanced stats that measure things like Win shares that put him very high in the league. So you are right. The numbers show Asik is a very good player. 

     

     
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    Here's the thing, wozzy, you're trying to compare Fav and Asik this season.

    You don't have to be a genius to figure out that when Asik was a starter last season, he started 82 games and averaged a double-double.

    Like I said in another thread, if Fav is so good then why is Ainge offering Bass, Lee, and a 1st rounder for Asik?

    That's something you can't answer.

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    Asik is not a Celtic, no trade happened and even if Asik became a Celtic, it will be to remove two bad contracts and consolidate them into one, which Ainge will probably turn around and trade once it becomes moveable. 

    The team is trying to improve, signing the white Kendrick Perkins to a bloated longterm contract isn't the answer, see how I snuck race in there so you would understand.

    Fav is better than Asik, he was better early in this season when Fav was playing more, he is better now that they're both playing comparable minutes, he's better if you put Fav's numbers into the Per 36 minutes number cruncher.

    Fav plays three minutes less per game than Asik; he scores more points, has more steals, has more blocks, has more assists, shoots threes.  I deal in facts not opinion, if Fav was starting for an entire season his stats would be better. 

    The team saw what Fav did early in the season, coach Stevens stated Fav had been their best defender, then they started sitting him to give Oly minutes and showcase Bass and Hump who are up for trade. 

    When Rondo is back and this front office believes they have what it takes to compete night in and night out Fav will be the starting center.

     
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    Fav plays three minutes less per game than Asik; scores more points, has more steals, has more blocks, has more assists, shoots threes...

    Facts, your opinions are about as valued here as canned farts.

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    This ^

     
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    Here's the thing, wozzy, you're trying to compare Fav and Asik this season.

    You don't have to be a genius to figure out that when Asik was a starter last season, he started 82 games and averaged a double-double.

    Like I said in another thread, if Fav is so good then why is Ainge offering Bass, Lee, and a 1st rounder for Asik?

    That's something you can't answer.

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    Asik is not a Celtic, no trade happened and even if Asik became a Celtic, it will be to remove two bad contracts and consolidate them into one, which Ainge will probably turn around and trade once it becomes moveable. 

    The team is trying to improve, signing the white Kendrick Perkins to a bloated longterm contract isn't the answer, see how I snuck race in there so you would understand.

    Fav is better than Asik, he was better early in this season when Fav was playing more, he is better now that they're both playing comparable minutes, he's better if you put Fav's numbers into the Per 36 minutes number cruncher.

    Fav plays three minutes less per game than Asik; he scores more points, has more steals, has more blocks, has more assists, shoots threes.  I deal in facts not opinion, if Fav was starting for an entire season his stats would be better. 

    The team saw what Fav did early in the season, coach Stevens stated Fav had been their best defender, then they started sitting him to give Oly minutes and showcase Bass and Hump who are up for trade. 

    When Rondo is back and this front office believes they have what it takes to compete night in and night out Fav will be the starting center.

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    This is insane. People stop thinking steals and blocks are good defense. Garnett didn't block many shots. Didn't take any charges and is one of the best defenders in the history of the league. Garnett alters shots. Asik alters shots.

    The rockets were TEN Points better with him on the court. One of the highest marks in the league.  Those defensive numbers were also very high on the Buls. Which is why the Rockets paid so much for him. 

    Asik was the second best rebounder per 36 minutes in the entire NBA. His contested rebound percentage ( and advanced stat teams like toe Celtics and Rockets use) show that he had the highest rate of winning contested rebounds in the league. 

    Win shares another advanced stat, Asik had over an 8 last year. That is higher than Pierce of Garnett had with the Celtics.

    Asik is a very good player. He isn't a franchise guy, but he is a huge upgrade over Faverani. Who is a promising young player but stop getting carried away. 

     
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    So you're saying the Celtics are tanking because Stevens is not letting Fav play a lot of minutes?

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    So by your rationale Asik stinks because he isn't playing right?

    He is not even the first big off Houston's bench...

     

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