Asking Price For Gordon Hayward

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    A.B. straight straight up for Hayward. Have Bayless play back up pg and a quick two with Rondo.

     



    Why give up AB for Hayward when you can give up Joel Anthony for Hayward, straight up?

     



    Because the Jazz aren't going to give up a young player they like for a guy who hasn't seen the court in three years.

     
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    Because the Jazz aren't going to give up a young player they like for a guy who hasn't seen the court in three years.

     



    But according to a source, not reliable, Joel Anthony and picks for Gordon Hayward is VERY fair!

     




    That may be true...but Joel Anthony and picks isn't Joel Anthony straight up.

     
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    Re: Asking Price For Gordon Hayward

    What is his asking price?

     
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    Re: Asking Price For Gordon Hayward

    I said the same thing about Hayward not being  a core guy, a very good complimentary player like jgreen or ab, we already have enough of those guys, but to say rondo a 4x all star is not a core guy is ridic. I can understand y some may be hesitant  to give him a max contract  but to say hes not a core player is just wrong. He is one of the few  players on the cs who could start for a legit playoff team. (my defenition of a core player, someone who can be a starter on a playoff team)

    I do agree that sully  is trending towards that as well. (he has been our best player this season). Ab, jgree,bbass, hump are all guys who would be very good rotational players for playoff team/fringe starters....I used to  consider ab as a core piece, but he seems to be injury prone, prob due to his lack of size and aggressive style of play, which you have to consider before signing him to a 4/32-36 type deal. 

     
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    I said the same thing about Hayward not being  a core guy, a very good complimentary player like jgreen or ab, we already have enough of those guys, but to say rondo a 4x all star is not a core guy is ridic. I can understand y some may be hesitant  to give him a max contract  but to say hes not a core player is just wrong. He is one of the few  players on the cs who could start for a legit playoff team. (my defenition of a core player, someone who can be a starter on a playoff team)

    I do agree that sully  is trending towards that as well. (he has been our best player this season). Ab, jgree,bbass, hump are all guys who would be very good rotational players for playoff team/fringe starters....I used to  consider ab as a core piece, but he seems to be injury prone, prob due to his lack of size and aggressive style of play, which you have to consider before signing him to a 4/32-36 type deal. 




    What I meant is that he's not going to be a core guy for this team. The rebuilding process is going to take a few years, and I feel it's better to trade Rondo now for a guy who will be part of the core when it comes time to be competitive. I'm looking for the Celtics to build more like the Thunder than the Lakers or even the 08 Celts, going young and growing up together instead of pulling in aging vets (as your core guys) who will only have a few years of dominance left.

     
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    Aging vets? Rondo is 27, hes in his prime. Show me one super young team other than okc and golden state that have been succesfull going that route? For every okc, there is cleveland,orlando,bobcats, milwaukee,minn philly, sac, utah etc, that flounder for YEARS trying to build thru the draft. You need to be very lucky with the ping pong balls and have to  hit on all your picks too. A lot of things have to go right.  When you also factor the cs are never going be bad enough to land a top 3 pick these next few years it makes even less sense to go that route. 

     

     
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    I think it's actually too good of an offer. I wouldn't do it. And I like Hayward. If there was a solid core in place and you were looking to add that key complimentary piece that he can be, I'm all for it. But when they are in this situation, I'm all about the draft picks.

     
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    Rondo is actually tunring 28 in only 4 days (2/22) but  thats still in his prime :)

     
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    +1 on the Ben Coates avatar.

     
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    Again, Hayward was a #9 pick. He shoots 40% F&G and 30% 3pt. His stats are similar to JG. He wants more money then JGs contract. Why would we trade JG and another 1st that would be a top 10 pick or two for him?  Because he played for the coach? 

     

    Best plan will be to continue Tankapalooza 1 this year.  See what position we land in. Then see what we get for our draft position. If there aren't great offers then we move on toTankapalooza part 2 next year.  Don't put your money into complementary players until you have a couple stars. 

     
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    Re: Asking Price For Gordon Hayward

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    Again, Hayward was a #9 pick. He shoots 40% F&G and 30% 3pt. His stats are similar to JG. He wants more money then JGs contract. Why would we trade JG and another 1st that would be a top 10 pick or two for him?  Because he played for the coach? 

     

    Best plan will be to continue Tankapalooza 1 this year.  See what position we land in. Then see what we get for our draft position. If there aren't great offers then we move on toTankapalooza part 2 next year.  Don't put your money into complementary players until you have a couple stars. 




    Correct...there's real core building to be done, and Hayward ain't it!



    If there were no salary cap I might do the deal. But, we have AB, GW, and JG. Do we need take another $12.5m + tying us up? AB and Rondo will want to be paid too. 

     
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    Re: Asking Price For Gordon Hayward

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    If there were no salary cap I might do the deal. But, we have AB, GW, and JG. Do we need take another $12.5m + tying us up? AB and Rondo will want to be paid too. 

     



    So true.

     

    Some Celtic fans here are living in fantasy land.

    So lame.


    I think he's referring to you!

     
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