Rondo to the Knicks, Stoudomire to the Magic, Howard to the Celtics. May have to add draft picks or other players like Steimsma.
There is no real guard in NY and what they have just isn't working, Stoudomire is an offensive player and the Magic cant score, Howard can just fit in with the Celtics like he just wants to be, a player not the go to guy.
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Better trade
posted at 1/30/2012 9:55 PM EST
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Re: Better trade
posted at 1/30/2012 10:07 PM EST
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How does Orlando not get robbed in that trade? -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/30/2012 10:15 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Better trade:How does Orlando not get robbed in that trade?
Posted by concord27
Orlando would also get Stiemsma to make it a fair trade...???
Orlando is eating $62m in Arena's contract.
They would not take Amare's contract which is uninsured.
AFTER this season, Amare still has $65m left on his contract. -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/30/2012 10:25 PM EST
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For once, I agree with mtrax!! -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/30/2012 10:33 PM EST
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Why should I listen to someone whose handle is way too long -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 1:45 AM EST
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If Orlando would take Stoudemire than NY would just take Howard before Rondo.
But there's already been talk of NY giving Stoudemire plus either Carmelo or Chandler. No way this trade would happen for a multitude of reasons. -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 8:24 AM EST
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In Response to Re: Better trade:How does Orlando not get robbed in that trade?
Posted by concord27
Agree that it doesn't make sense for Orlando. Orlando is giving up the best player and they won't make any trade that will not benefit them. -
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posted at 1/31/2012 12:03 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Better trade:In Response to Re: Better trade : Agree that it doesn't make sense for Orlando. Orlando is giving up the best player and they won't make any trade that will not benefit them.
Posted by susan250
The longer this drags out, the less they will get for Howard. The Magic should take the deal, I don't think they will get better than that. -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 12:16 PM EST
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As many of the trade suggestions are far-fetched, how about duping Cleveland into an even up for Rondo and we get Kyrie Irving---did you enjoy his performance last night ? -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 2:06 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Better trade:As many of the trade suggestions are far-fetched, how about duping Cleveland into an even up for Rondo and we get Kyrie Irving---did you enjoy his performance last night ?
Posted by mandobello
Irving should be the rookie of the year. He will only continue to improve every year and make Cleveland a better team. -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 3:54 PM EST
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" how about duping Cleveland into an even up for Rondo and we get Kyrie Irving--"Cleveland has no incentive to do that trade nor do the salaries match....Irving looks promising at this stage however.This proposed trade is actually not bad....I tend to bash the trades proposed here for being unrealistic but this ain't bad....Magic will have to take less value for Howard, Amare is better than nothing...Biggest problem here is NYC who is unlikely to see Rondo for Amare as good value for them -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 4:55 PM EST
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Read where KG is linked to going to DEN
A 3 team trade that might work:
KG to DEN
Miller, Harrington, Mozgov to ORL - if not Miller, then some other player!
Howard to BOS! -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 5:06 PM EST
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So, Orlando is going to take back a slow 36 year old pg, a 32 year old sf that is on a bad contract and a marginal prospect for Dwight?
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Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 5:12 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Better trade:So, Orlando is going to take back a slow 36 year old pg, a 32 year old sf that is on a bad contract and a marginal prospect for Dwight? I don't think that beats Marshon Brooks, Brook Lopez, Kris Humphries and 2 1st round picks from NJ.
Posted by GinaM1977
It doesn't, mtrax, but it beats Bynum straight up for Howard! -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 5:30 PM EST
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I do not think Bynum will be traded for Howard straight up or with other players and picks.
I think NJ and other teams will have much more to offer Orlando then the Lakers have.
For LA to give up Gasol in a Howard trade, it would have to be through a multi-team trade where they get back a PF. (Maybe a Scola type player). -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 5:35 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Better trade:I do not think Bynum will be traded for Howard straight up or with other players and picks. I think NJ and other teams will have much more to offer Orlando then the Lakers have. For LA to give up Gasol in a Howard trade, it would have to be through a multi-team trade where they get back a PF. (Maybe a Scola type player).
Posted by GinaM1977
WOW - very impressed.....so, you are packing it in for this year, are you?
Not going to wreck this very objective post by saying Gasol for DWill or other things I'm hearing on 710 ESPN are you?? -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 5:50 PM EST
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First of all, I am a big Timberwolves fan.
Second, LA needs a pg more then Dwight Howard.
They could use Bynum as trade bait for D. Williams.
But if Dwight goes to NJ, then LA is out of the D. Williams running.
LA will not pack it in this year.
I think they will make a push for Sessions or wait until the trade deadline and offer a 1st round pick for Nash. For less then 6 weeks of regular season games, why wouldn't Phoenix make that trade? LA would have to send back about $3m in salary and could use their Odom trade exception. Could also send $ with LA's player.
Brook Lopez is still not running so if he does not make it back healthy in the next 6 weeks, that will hurt NJ's chances of trading for Dwight by 3/15. -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 6:02 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Better trade:First of all, I am a big Timberwolves fan. Second, LA needs a pg more then Dwight Howard. They could use Bynum as trade bait for D. Williams. But if Dwight goes to NJ, then LA is out of the D. Williams running. LA will not pack it in this year. I think they will make a push for Sessions or wait until the trade deadline and offer a 1st round pick for Nash. For less then 6 weeks of regular season games, why wouldn't Phoenix make that trade? LA would have to send back about $3m in salary and could use their Odom trade exception. Could also send $ with LA's player. Brook Lopez is still not running so if he does not make it back healthy in the next 6 weeks, that will hurt NJ's chances of trading for Dwight by 3/15.
Posted by GinaM1977
The only BIG thing you are, mtrax, is a liar. With Nash and Fisher at PG, you'd have the all - AARP backcourt. WHY would PHO make that trade?? Nash is the ONLY person that puts people in the seats! You DO need a PG, but it won't be DWill or Nash, or probably even Sessions. Your team is a mess - perhaps you could trade Metta World Peace for Ron Artest!! -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 6:05 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Better trade:In Response to Re: Better trade : The only BIG thing you are, mtrax, is a liar. With Nash and Fisher at PG, you'd have the all - AARP backcourt. WHY would PHO make that trade?? Nash is the ONLY person that puts people in the seats! You DO need a PG, but it won't be DWill or Nash, or probably even Sessions. Your team is a mess - perhaps you could trade Metta World Peace for Ron Artest!!
Posted by Red-16Russ-11If that happened then he would be called Metta World Trade. Ha Ha -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 6:14 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Better trade:In Response to Re: Better trade : The only BIG thing you are, mtrax, is a liar. With Nash and Fisher at PG, you'd have the all - AARP backcourt. WHY would PHO make that trade?? Nash is the ONLY person that puts people in the seats! You DO need a PG, but it won't be DWill or Nash, or probably even Sessions. Your team is a mess - perhaps you could trade Metta World Peace for Ron Artest!!
Posted by Red-16Russ-11
How many tickets do you think Phoenix will sell in the last 6 weeks because of Nash? You don't see the big picture. Nash is going to play his last game for Phoenix in April, so why not get a 1st round pick for him in a pretty deep draft class?
How can you make a blanket statement that LA will not get D. Will, Nash or Sessions? Nash would be to help LA win this year. Nash/Kobe/Gasol/Bynum will challenge any team in the NBA. -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 6:22 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Better trade:In Response to Re: Better trade : How many tickets do you think Phoenix will sell in the last 6 weeks because of Nash? You don't see the big picture. Nash is going to play his last game for Phoenix in April, so why not get a 1st round pick for him in a pretty deep draft class? How can you make a blanket statement that LA will not get D. Will, Nash or Sessions? Nash would be to help LA win this year. Nash/Kobe/Gasol/Bynum will challenge any team in the NBA.
Posted by GinaM1977The Lakers can't use the trade exception from the Odom trade to get Nash. CBA rules say you can use the 8.9m TE to get players with salaries equal to or below 8.9m. Since Nash's salary is 11m the Lakers can't add 2-3m to make the salaries match. -
Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 7:53 PM EST
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You are correct that LA couldn't get Nash.
His salary for this year is $11,689,062.
If his salary was $11,225,000, LA could trade for Nash without sending any salary back to Phoenix.
The 125% plus $100,000 provision also applies for Traded Player Exceptions.
$8.9m x 125% + $100,000 = $11,225,000.
Traded Player Exception – The Traded Player Exception has been increased for non-taxpayers such that the amount a non-taxpaying team has available to replace a traded player or players equals the lesser of (i) 150 percent of salaries of players being traded plus $100,000, or (ii) the salaries of players being traded plus $5M. (For purposes of this rule, team is a non-taxpayer if its post-trade team salary is below the Tax level.) Traded Player Exception for taxpayers equals 125 percent of the salaries of players being traded plus $100,000 (same as under 2005 CBA).What this means: For non-taxpaying teams, this exception has increased from 125 percent plus $100,000, which gives them a lot more flexibility in workable trades. Future trade deadline days should be more exciting than ever, and we’ll be less likely to see players included in trades strictly to make the contracts fit within the exception.
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Re: Better trade
posted at 1/31/2012 10:51 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Better trade:In Response to Re: Better trade : How many tickets do you think Phoenix will sell in the last 6 weeks because of Nash? You don't see the big picture. Nash is going to play his last game for Phoenix in April, so why not get a 1st round pick for him in a pretty deep draft class? How can you make a blanket statement that LA will not get D. Will, Nash or Sessions? Nash would be to help LA win this year. Nash/Kobe/Gasol/Bynum will challenge any team in the NBA.
Posted by GinaM1977
You know a lot about the lakers for a T-Wolves fan.....MTRAX
mtrax is a liar, and he is now on ignore for me!! -
Re: Better trade
posted at 2/1/2012 12:13 AM EST
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Re: Better trade
posted at 2/1/2012 1:55 AM EST
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It doesn't hurt to be prepared. If LA gets Howard, which isn't certain, how are you posters going to deal with GREENKILLER? He will most certainly be back to rub it in. Then again, maybe the Celtics will find a way to get Howard.
Multiple team trade: Celtics give up Rondo and 2 first round draft choices, Celtics get Howard, Orlando gets Kaman and two first rounders, Kaman's ex-team(NOH) gets Rondo.