Re: Bleeding Green
posted at 7/20/2013 10:27 AM EDT
In response to Skins and Heart's comment:
In response to hops29's comment:
In response to Duke4's comment:
THE DUKE I get it.....I kind of feel the same way....on the other hand, we did it with Bird and McHale and getting nothing set our franchise back...at least we have some pieces to begin the rebuild....it happens in sports...the Dodgers tried to sell Jackie Robinson to the Giants....Robby retired rather than going there to play....the Niners parted ways with Joe Montana ....in reality, it happens quite often...Pierce and KG get another shot at a title before they retire (as Celtics I hope)...and Danny starts the rebuilding process...going forward it's a win/win for both parties in my opinion...
Bias and Reggie both dying is what set the Celtics back. Not letting Bird retire here. Can we cut the crap with that already?
If Bias used Cocaine as much as it has been aluded too then hes may not have contributed as much to the team as people like to think.
At best a Roy Tarpley type. At worst a Chris Washburn type. Maybe contributing enough to keep McHale on the sidelines healing after his foot injury in '87 and not playing though it compounding the injury and shortening his career. And that is it. Unless he magically decides one day to stop using Cocaine. And if he was that much of an addict it may not have been easy to stop.
Bird was litterally untradeable though. I think there would have been a riot in Boston if he was traded. McHale on the other hand, in hindsight ought to have been traded around 1990. But that's hindsight.
From what I can gather though. Boston in the late 80's and early 90's had the mentality that everything would just 'happen' for them. Free agents would come and players would develop. Plus they had the history. I don't know why management let the team slide as badly as they did. And I don't think Ainge will let this happen again. At least he's being pro-active and not letting things go like was done previously.
The death of Lewis did set things back. But it really shouldn't have completely destroyed the team like it did for years. Poor free agent signings like Wilkins and bad management did that.
A death shouldn't wreck a champion team. Bad management did that for the Celtics after the death of Reggie Lewis.
There's also theory out there that Bias was maybe just a casual user or even just a one time user that got caught up in the celebration of draft day. However, his buddy Brian Tribble did have a rep as a shady dude(which became public afterwards). I was a Terp during those years and remember seeing him in the Student Union holding court. I never heard any rumors concerning his drug use, but I was just a face in the crowd(albeit a handsome one). I'd be lying if I said I got a nod out of him back in the day. He was truly something.