Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    In response to Fiercest34's comment:

    The Suns already have a lot of Bass type players like Beasley, Scola, Morris, and PJ Tucker. So Bass and Sully are not the players the Suns would want.

    What the Suns would want are draft picks and a young player like Fab Melo.

    To make the deal work, Lee has to be included.

    Melo, Lee, and maybe Collins, plus 2 1st round picks for Gortat. 



    2 first round picks sounds a little extreme. 

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    In response to snakeoil123's comment:

    In response to Fiercest34's comment:

    The Suns already have a lot of Bass type players like Beasley, Scola, Morris, and PJ Tucker. So Bass and Sully are not the players the Suns would want.

    What the Suns would want are draft picks and a young player like Fab Melo.

    To make the deal work, Lee has to be included.

    Melo, Lee, and maybe Collins, plus 2 1st round picks for Gortat. 



    2 first round picks sounds a little extreme. 



    if we are going to give up garbage like that for gortat...yes we have to give up 2 1st round picks.

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    I would say it would take Bass, Melo, lee and maybe picks to get it done. Then we'd have to be assured he'd sign an extension.

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    You all forget that Gortat wants out of Phoenix and everyone knows this.  A team loses leverage when this happens.  Two players and a 1st but will probably have to wait until January.

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    http://sunngun.com/2012/11/19/marcin-gortat-to-oklahoma-city-thunder/ 

    http://hardwoodhoudini.com/2012/11/19/darko-replacement-option-no-1-phoenix-suns-marcin-gortat-on-trade-block-boston-celtics-interested/ 

    We have competition from Orlando and Thunder..Thunder willing to give Perk and Jones..

    thats tough to beat..Danny gots to get creative..but Fierce is right, they already have enough Bass types, they want guards..Lee/Bass/Melo and picks makes sense..

    and they probably will want A

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    They probably want AB

     
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    DA might have to involve another team to get this deal done! 

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    I just don't see how this deal can get done, there really isn't a match. I see them going after Martin.

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    Why not a 3 way trade?

     

    OKC gets Gortat and Bass

    PHO gets PJIII, AB and Melo

    We get Perkins and Dudley!

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    In response to hedleylamarr's comment:

    Why not a 3 way trade?

     

    OKC gets Gortat and Bass

    PHO gets PJIII, AB and Melo

    We get Perkins and Dudley!



    I don't like the trade at all.  We need Gortat to score and rebound.  Perk can't do that.  Giving up Bradley unless he is not the same player is not going to help either.

     

    Love Dudley and Gortat coming to Boston. 

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    In response to concord27's comment:

    In response to hedleylamarr's comment:

    Why not a 3 way trade?

     

    OKC gets Gortat and Bass

    PHO gets PJIII, AB and Melo

    We get Perkins and Dudley!



    I don't like the trade at all.  We need Gortat to score and rebound.  Perk can't do that.  Giving up Bradley unless he is not the same player is not going to help either.

     

    Love Dudley and Gortat coming to Boston. 



    Gortat is much better than Perk, and I agree on holding on to Bradley.  I would rather give up Sully than Bradley.  

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    In response to snakeoil123's comment:

    In response to concord27's comment:

    In response to hedleylamarr's comment:

    Why not a 3 way trade?

     

    OKC gets Gortat and Bass

    PHO gets PJIII, AB and Melo

    We get Perkins and Dudley!



    I don't like the trade at all.  We need Gortat to score and rebound.  Perk can't do that.  Giving up Bradley unless he is not the same player is not going to help either.

     

    Love Dudley and Gortat coming to Boston. 



    Gortat is much better than Perk, and I agree on holding on to Bradley.  I would rather give up Sully than Bradley.  



    That is probably the guy that it will take. Consider Sully is role player and not a future star.  I am not sure of that, but I believe it to be the most likely outcome for him.

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    In response to concord27's comment:

    In response to snakeoil123's comment:

    In response to concord27's comment:

    In response to hedleylamarr's comment:

    Why not a 3 way trade?

     

    OKC gets Gortat and Bass

    PHO gets PJIII, AB and Melo

    We get Perkins and Dudley!



    I don't like the trade at all.  We need Gortat to score and rebound.  Perk can't do that.  Giving up Bradley unless he is not the same player is not going to help either.

     

    Love Dudley and Gortat coming to Boston. 



    Gortat is much better than Perk, and I agree on holding on to Bradley.  I would rather give up Sully than Bradley.  



    That is probably the guy that it will take. Consider Sully is role player and not a future star.  I am not sure of that, but I believe it to be the most likely outcome for him.



    It would allow Phoenix to save face to get Sully.  I like sully but I don't think he is going ever be any better than Gortat is now.  Gortat is a 15 and 10 guy.  I don't think sully will ever be more than a 15 and 10 guy.

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    I agree with both posters who don't like my trade.  Gortat is the better player.......but that puts OKC in the drivers' seat, because they, too, have the better players to trade.  I'm looking at Perk as  a consolation prize only.................I would LOVE Gortat, he would be perfect for us.  That said, we do need help in the rebounding dept...and if OKC trades Perk, why not trade him to us?

     

    I disagree that we should trade Sully over AB.  We need to hang to Sully at all costs.  AB is more expendable, because he has been hurt every year he has played, and his offensive game is limited.  Yes, he is a very good defender, but he has yet to prove enough consistency on offense to allow Doc to trust him.....I think Sully has more potential than AB.

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    More news / speculation:

    Report: Celtics prepping an offer for Marcin Gortat | Red's Army - The Voice of Boston Celtics Fans

     

    • Marcin Gortat makes $7.2 million. The Celtics need to get within 125% of that to make the trade work.
    • All the guys that make that happen can't be traded until December 15 at the earliest, and some later than that. Courtney Lee and Jason Terry can't be traded until December 15, and Jeff Green and Brandon Bass can't be traded until January 15.
    • The Suns may want Jared Sullinger and/or Avery Bradley.
     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

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    I agree with both posters who don't like my trade.  Gortat is the better player.......but that puts OKC in the drivers' seat, because they, too, have the better players to trade.  I'm looking at Perk as  a consolation prize only.................I would LOVE Gortat, he would be perfect for us.  That said, we do need help in the rebounding dept...and if OKC trades Perk, why not trade him to us?

     

    I disagree that we should trade Sully over AB.  We need to hang to Sully at all costs.  AB is more expendable, because he has been hurt every year he has played, and his offensive game is limited.  Yes, he is a very good defender, but he has yet to prove enough consistency on offense to allow Doc to trust him.....I think Sully has more potential than AB.



    You might be right, but there were quite a few games last year before AB got hurt that he looked like the best player on the floor.

     

    It all depends on who else would go in the trade, because if Bass doesn't go, then Sully wouldn't get any minutes this year at all if Gortat came. Kg and Bass would get all the minutes at the 4.

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    In response to snakeoil123's comment:

    In response to hedleylamarr's comment:

    I agree with both posters who don't like my trade.  Gortat is the better player.......but that puts OKC in the drivers' seat, because they, too, have the better players to trade.  I'm looking at Perk as  a consolation prize only.................I would LOVE Gortat, he would be perfect for us.  That said, we do need help in the rebounding dept...and if OKC trades Perk, why not trade him to us?

     

    I disagree that we should trade Sully over AB.  We need to hang to Sully at all costs.  AB is more expendable, because he has been hurt every year he has played, and his offensive game is limited.  Yes, he is a very good defender, but he has yet to prove enough consistency on offense to allow Doc to trust him.....I think Sully has more potential than AB.



    You might be right, but there were quite a few games last year before AB got hurt that he looked like the best player on the floor.

     

    It all depends on who else would go in the trade, because if Bass doesn't go, then Sully wouldn't get any minutes this year at all if Gortat came. Kg and Bass would get all the minutes at the 4.



    Bradley comes back he could reshape the Celtics like last year. You can't trade him unless he is damaged goods.   Perk brings very little to KG 2013 or Pierce 2013.  You need Gortat who can be and offensive threat.  No Perk, he will do little but add bluster.  He won't beat anybody. 

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    Perk is averaging 4 points and 5 boards in 25 minutes a game. You can't do much worse than that.

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    In response to BCSP's comment:

    More news / speculation:

    Report: Celtics prepping an offer for Marcin Gortat | Red's Army - The Voice of Boston Celtics Fans

     

    • Marcin Gortat makes $7.2 million. The Celtics need to get within 125% of that to make the trade work.
    • All the guys that make that happen can't be traded until December 15 at the earliest, and some later than that. Courtney Lee and Jason Terry can't be traded until December 15, and Jeff Green and Brandon Bass can't be traded until January 15.
    • The Suns may want Jared Sullinger and/or Avery Bradley.



    15th is right around the corner.  I would be fine with Sully and Lee.

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    In response to snakeoil123's comment:

    In response to BCSP's comment:

    More news / speculation:

    Report: Celtics prepping an offer for Marcin Gortat | Red's Army - The Voice of Boston Celtics Fans

     

    • Marcin Gortat makes $7.2 million. The Celtics need to get within 125% of that to make the trade work.
    • All the guys that make that happen can't be traded until December 15 at the earliest, and some later than that. Courtney Lee and Jason Terry can't be traded until December 15, and Jeff Green and Brandon Bass can't be traded until January 15.
    • The Suns may want Jared Sullinger and/or Avery Bradley.



    15th is right around the corner.  I would be fine with Sully and Lee.



    I agree, Sully, Lee, and a 1st round pick (will hopefully do it).

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    Ummm, Paging Fab Melo!!   Time for a change of scenary Buddy.  Plenty of time for you to develop in Arizona but over here we are in the WIN NOW Business so......  Gotta Go , Gotta Go!

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    In response to concord27's comment:

    In response to hedleylamarr's comment:

    Why not a 3 way trade?

     

    OKC gets Gortat and Bass

    PHO gets PJIII, AB and Melo

    We get Perkins and Dudley!



    I don't like the trade at all.  We need Gortat to score and rebound.  Perk can't do that.  Giving up Bradley unless he is not the same player is not going to help either.

     

    Love Dudley and Gortat coming to Boston. 


    not sure wha you are saying, but if you mean don't like the idea of trading AB, i agree...

     
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    Re: Boston Celtics to propose trade for center Marcin Gortat!

    In response to Ortiz123's comment:

    In response to concord27's comment:

    In response to hedleylamarr's comment:

    Why not a 3 way trade?

     

    OKC gets Gortat and Bass

    PHO gets PJIII, AB and Melo

    We get Perkins and Dudley!



    I don't like the trade at all.  We need Gortat to score and rebound.  Perk can't do that.  Giving up Bradley unless he is not the same player is not going to help either.

     

    Love Dudley and Gortat coming to Boston. 


    not sure wha you are saying, but if you mean don't like the idea of trading AB, i agree...



    I was saying I don't like the idea of trading AB unless his injuries and surgery have changed him as a player.  

     
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