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    I wouldn't give Rondo a max contract. No sir. If you read any of my other posts in this thread, I've explained what I believe the 6th pick to be. I don't know that Rondo is asking for the max. I assume he'll try to get as much as he can. I hear "others" saying Rondo wants a max deal. I don't hear "Rondo" himself, saying he wants a max deal.


     


     




    John Wall, who only made the All-Star team once, got the max.


     


     


    Rondo has been an All-Star more than once.


     


     


     


    It's hard to believe Rondo's agent will not ask for the max when a player like John Wall got the max.


     


     


     


    Besides, I'm not against having Rondo stay in Boston as long as the Celts can get other star players to play with Rondo.


     


    But Kevin Love to Boston is now dead.


     


    There are no other options left.


     


     


     


    I don't think Ainge is crazy enough and desperate enough to do what Joe Dumars did with Josh Smith.


     


     


     


    Also, the best player available at #6 is subjective.


     


    Some would say Randle or Vonleh.


     


     


     


    Think about it, if the Celts didn't have Oly and Sully, there's a big chance the Celts would've picked Randle.




    Maybe. Maybe not. probably. But, we do have Sully and Oly. Everyone has their own view. Do you have 1st hand knowledge of what Ainge is working on? Or just speculating? Whether it's subjective or not. It doesn't matter what you or I think. Or anyone else for that matter. It only matters what Ainge thinks. He's in the drivers seat. Not your rhyme and reason. Are all-star appearances the only criteria for max contracts? I doubt it.

     
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    Maybe. Maybe not. probably. But, we do have Sully and Oly. Everyone has their own view. Do you have 1st hand knowledge of what Ainge is working on? Or just speculating? Whether it's subjective or not. It doesn't matter what you or I think. Or anyone else for that matter. It only matters what Ainge thinks. He's in the drivers seat. Not your rhyme and reason. Are all-star appearances the only criteria for max contracts? I doubt it.



    We'll see.



    Exactly. That's all I'm saying. We can only speculate.

     
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    "I do agree that smart was prob the bpa left. BUT I understand y fans are upset, pg is the ONLY positon we have an all star at, but we still end up drafting a pg? "

    Not all fans are upset. Some realize that re-signing Rondo to a max contract would be a crazy idea. 

    Fans who are upset don't understand how the NBA works. Ainge took the best player available and he can always trade that player for a position of need, he is not locked into Smart. 

    Ainge would have taken Embid in that spot if he had been there. 

    Bottom line Ainge drafted based on best talent and anyone who is upset about that should really take a cold shower. 

    now, if you think there was better talent than Smart available, fine - but you have to make the argument based on the ceiling of that player, not on what you think we needed this year. Because Ainge isn't done trading and moving. 

       
     
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    Exactly. That's all I'm saying. We can only speculate.

     

     



    We can all speculate about the Marcus Smaht pick, true.

     

     

    But I'm 100% sure Rondo's not going to be a part of the Celtics' future without Kevin Love.



    lol. I gotta laugh dude. At how your self righteousness seeps to the forefront of your persona. Obsessive even. Some might even call it arrogance. I bet you call it confidence, huh?

    I care very little. I'm a fan with or without. I like Rondo. But he's not at the heart of my love for this franchise.

    Here's to you being right. Cheers!

     
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    lol. I gotta laugh dude. At how your self righteousness seeps to the forefront of your persona. Obsessive even. Some might even call it arrogance. I bet you call it confidence, huh?

     

    I care very little. I'm a fan with or without. I like Rondo. But he's not at the heart of my love for this franchise.

     

    Here's to you being right. Cheers!

     

     



    It's Rondo or Smaht.

     

     

    Celts can't keep both.

     

    We don't need to speculate on that.

     

    It's obvious!



    There a law against it or something?

     
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    The person to blame here is Wyc Grousbeck.

    He told everybody there was going to be fireworks on draft night.

     

    Sure Celtic owners and Celtic fans want something big to happen.

    But it will not happen if other teams will not cooperate.

     

    The problem with the Celtic ownership is they're so concerned about money.

    There season ticket holders here complaining about ticket prices going up every year.

    If the Celts can't get Kevin Love then it's hard for the owners to increase ticket prices this coming season.



    .................... OK. You sure that's what he said? Someone had stated he was misquoted. That he actually said fireworks "could" happen.

     
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    There a law against it or something?

     

     



    I'm not going to convince you to believe me.

     

     

    Just remember this thread once Rondo is gone.



    Why? Should it mean something to me? It's obvious it means a hell of a lot to you.

     
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    Fierce, Don't be upset with me. I think your a sweetheart.

     
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    There a law against it or something?

     

     



    I'm not going to convince you to believe me.

     

     

    Just remember this thread once Rondo is gone.



    I doubt I'll have to remember. I'm sure you'll bump this thread when/if it does, so you can wave that banner of righteousness you love so much.

     
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    Nowhere do I say that Rondo's agent will not ask for the max. Putting words in my mouth clueless one?

    I said Rondo's agent will be needing to get him DWill and CP3 money. 5 years 105 million. 

    It is not Rondo's agent's job to get him the John Wall max. That was his agent's job back in 2009, when instead of going after the 5/70 max fellow class of 2006 LaMarcus Aldridge signed for Rondo's agent used the Tony Parker 11 million a year extension as the goal and got Rondo 5/55.

    Clearly you do not get these things.

    Now it is Rondo's agent's job to prove Rondo is worth over 20 million a year.

    I think Ainge would pay Rondo what John Wall just signed for. So your argument does not work. It is pointless and one an agent wouldn't DARE use b/c Wall will be making 25 million LESS than he wants his client to make.

    Get it yet?


    Really?  LOL

     
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    Nowhere do I say that Rondo's agent will not ask for the max. Putting words in my mouth clueless one?

    I said Rondo's agent will be needing to get him DWill and CP3 money. 5 years 105 million. 

    It is not Rondo's agent's job to get him the John Wall max. That was his agent's job back in 2009, when instead of going after the 5/70 max fellow class of 2006 LaMarcus Aldridge signed for Rondo's agent used the Tony Parker 11 million a year extension as the goal and got Rondo 5/55.

    Clearly you do not get these things.

    Now it is Rondo's agent's job to prove Rondo is worth over 20 million a year.

    I think Ainge would pay Rondo what John Wall just signed for. So your argument does not work. It is pointless and one an agent wouldn't DARE use b/c Wall will be making 25 million LESS than he wants his client to make.

    Get it yet?


    Really?  LOL




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    Jacoby Parker?

    Enjoy!

     
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    lol. I gotta laugh dude. At how your self righteousness seeps to the forefront of your persona. Obsessive even. Some might even call it arrogance. I bet you call it confidence, huh?

     

    I care very little. I'm a fan with or without. I like Rondo. But he's not at the heart of my love for this franchise.

     

    Here's to you being right. Cheers!

     

     



    It's Rondo or Smaht.

     

     

    Celts can't keep both.

     

    We don't need to speculate on that.

     

    It's obvious!



    I agree that it is tricky to keep both.  However, I am getting more and more intrigued by this experiment.  If Young gets slotted as 3 this can become a very intriguing experiment based upon how Smart develops.

    My bigger concern will be a personality clash between the two.  But if they learn to respect each other, it can work out.

     
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    i can say no he's not with at least as much conviction, fierce. you're too much. 

     

     



    If not then why did the Celts pick Smart instead of Noah Vonleh or Nik Stauskas?

     



    because smart is better than both those guy's....

     
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    i can say no he's not with at least as much conviction, fierce. you're too much. 


    If not then why did the Celts pick Smart instead of Noah Vonleh or Nik Stauskas?


    because smart is better than both those guy's....





    Agreed, Smart is a better basketball player and will have a bigger impact on his team over his career than either of those two guys.


    BPA?! You got that right. This team has such a deficit in pure talent versus other teams that it has no choice but to pick the BPA. THEY ARE NOT ONE OR TWO VERY GOOD PLAYERS AWAY FROM MAKING A SERIOUS RUN AT A CHAMPIONSHIP, AND AROUND HERE THAT'S ALL THAT COUNTS. They are one or two very good players away from the playoffs. Rondo will never get a max contract from ANY NBA team and doesn't deserve one regardless of what the Rondo Youth Brigade says. Bradley is done here...I doubt he'll be here for anything but the qualifying offer the C's extended and they really do not want him because he's injury prone, misses mucho games and in order to keep scoring he let's his D go the way of the dodo bird.


    They are two seasons, at best, away from serious playoff contention, meaning getting past a first round one and done.


    And in your heart you know I'm right.

     
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    I agree that it is tricky to keep both.  However, I am getting more and more intrigued by this experiment.  If Young gets slotted as 3 this can become a very intriguing experiment based upon how Smart develops.

     

    My bigger concern will be a personality clash between the two.  But if they learn to respect each other, it can work out.

     

     



    Having Rondo and Smart on the court at the same time is like playing 3 vs 5.

     

     

    Both Rondo and Smart are not good shooters.



    I hear you.  But I am still intrigued.  There was a time that the Celts used to play with Rondo and Perkins on the floor and were pretty good.  I am sufficiently intrigued to not write off this combination right away.

     
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