Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

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    Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

    This kid gets it, gets after it, and has the physical conditioning to give the BEST perimeter scorers HELL!

    I just hope the refs recognize his greatness.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9vFHYVXtRk

    He's definitely better on D and more athletic than Joe Dumars.
    His free throws are Ray Allen like. His scoring is coming along very nicely.

    Point is this, we may have another hall of famer in the making besides Rajon
    Rondo!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrQxJr5u0D0&feature=fvwrel
     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

    Please tell me you are joking.

    I love Bradley and his energy on D. And I think he has a chance to be a great defender. As a matter of fact, outside of Pierce he is my favorite Celtic. But Hall of Fame? Come on. It's way too early to even think about that. But if you are being objective, the odds are slim to none. And the only way Rondo gets within sniffing distance is after the Big Three are gone they rebuild and he is the starting PG for a few more banner winning teams.

    But back to Bradley, I would still take Bruce Bowen in his prime over Bradley right now. But his ceiling is off the charts. Not only will he get better, he will get smarter. And I don't want to compare him to a guy like Artest because Bradley is a much better defender. Artest is a mediocre defender who gets away with consistently cheating because of his rep as a great defender. But that's my point. Artest is the perfect example. Once Avery starts to get that rep, he will be even scarier defensively. Look at what he's doing right now. And that's with the rookie treatment from the officials. Think about how good he will be when the refs stop squeezing him with BS fouls, just let him play and maybe even get away with a thing or two. 
     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

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    This kid gets it, gets after it, and has the physical conditioning to give the BEST perimeter scorers HELL! I just hope the refs recognize his greatness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9vFHYVXtRk He's definitely better on D and more athletic than Joe Dumars. His free throws are Ray Allen like. His scoring is coming along very nicely. Point is this, we may have another hall of famer in the making besides Rajon Rondo! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrQxJr5u0D0&feature=fvwrel
    Posted by DaCeltics

    We are all pleased with the Celtics after a tough season.  Things look promising but all your posts today are a little over the top.  Remember how we struggled to get to this point. 
     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

    In Response to Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.:
    In Response to Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime. : We are all pleased with the Celtics after a tough season.  Things look promising but all your posts today are a little over the top.  Remember how we struggled to get to this point. 
    Posted by concord27

    He is a good guy but all his posts always are a little over the top.  Bradley will certainly not make the HOF.

     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

    Pippen could guard everyone but a Center pretty much. Not a good comparison. He has a good chance to make some all defensive teams though if he continues to be a starter in the league.
     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

    Just a tad overboard, but I'm also happy with the way Bradley is playing and the direction the team is going.
     
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    Not Pippen but at this time in both of their careers, he is worlds better than........

    Tony Allen. He is a better shooter, ball handler and defender.
     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

    TA is a stronger, bigger guy and more versatile in who he can guard.  Certainly avery is more trustworthy with the ball in his hands.

    I would say that bradley is a better on ball defender and TA is a better team defender who creates more havoc in the passing lanes.
     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

    Bradley on ball might be the best in the league. He gets around screens almost easily compared to other players in the league. laterally he is just so fast. They try to pick him and most times it doesn't work.
     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.


     he also has a great sense of were the pick is coming when he's back peddling 10 feet in from half court without being able to see it.  While he's defending the other teams point guard he makes moves of his own to throw off the big trying to set the high screen.  It's pretty unique because it works.
     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

    Bradley is the best on ball defender in the league and is going to be one terrific player. Not Pippen though. Scottie was 6'8'' and could guard everyone from a point guard to the best poward forwards in the game. Bradley doesn't have the size for that level of versatility. 

     
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    Re: Not Pippen but at this time in both of their careers, he is worlds better than........

    In Response to Not Pippen but at this time in both of their careers, he is worlds better than........:
    Tony Allen. He is a better shooter, ball handler and defender.
    Posted by terrrapin


    Trick or Treat Tony? The guy with the mediocre and ugly jumphot? The guy with the grace and ball handling ability of a blind meth addict. I used to cringe every time he touched the ball because I knew there was a decent chance it was going to end up in the stands.

    That Tony Allen? Give me a break. You trolls are getting more ridiculous by the day,
     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

    I would pump the breaks on Campaigning for Bradley in the hall for now but I would say the long term effect is Ray Allen relocating this summer. Wouldn't rule him returning out as a 6th man next season but Ray will be highly sought after by Clippers and Heat to name two contenders. With Bradleys emergence I could see them saving the cap space and allowing Ray to walk. I'm a huge Ray Allen fan just speculating what Bradley's play could lead to long term. Rondo/Bradley is scary good defensively for a backcourt. I would like to see a third guard who can play both guard spots coming of the bench with them - free agent guards who can play both pg and sg (not including restricted guys) Chauncey Billups: still spot up, post up some small guards, hits timely threes and gets to the free throw line Delonte West: injury prone, tough when active, can defend both spots and can score Jason Terry: doubtful he leaves Dallas but he is an intriguing pick an roll guard. Can get hot Goran Dragic: big fan of him. Increased his stock with Lowry out Kirk Hinrich: somewhat regressed as an impact guy but he is a solid third guard If Ray was to walk and Bradley is viewed as the long time starter any of these guards who be a great fit off the bench. Guys who can play both guard spots. Celtics as of late have shortened the rotation. Depth is key but you really only need a good 8/9 guys. A roster of.... Guards: Rondo, Bradley, Billups Forwards: Pierce, Garnett, Green Centers: Free Agent, Steimsma That's a really good 8... I didn't include bass because I think he outplayed his contract and will test free agency. green will come back for us I'm almost certain of it
     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

    I see your point but Pippen was 6'7" SF. He's more like Joe Dumars,TR Dunn and Payton, a guard that has an unlikely skill that totally changes the way teams play against. MJ never beat Dumars in a series because of his unique abilities of seeing passing angles defensively and changing peoples shot as they picked the ball up. TR Dunn had hands that acted like spider-webs and could position himself as to block vision of his man.  The Glove had incredible upper body quickness and foot speed,when your known as the "Glove" no explanation necessary. AB could be closest to Gary Payton, except his foot speed is unbelievable, I've never seen a player  that can mirror every step his man takes so closely so well, EVER.

    TA is a different defender and I think TA was unappreciated by most fans and I would love to see him back in Green. Having Gerald Green back at the right price, he seems to have matured and is playing very well in NJ.
     
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    Re: Not Pippen but at this time in both of their careers, he is worlds better than........


    Read the by-line genius. I am making the case that Bradley is better at this point in his career than Allen.

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    In Response to Not Pippen but at this time in both of their careers, he is worlds better than........ : Trick or Treat Tony? The guy with the mediocre and ugly jumphot? The guy with the grace and ball handling ability of a blind meth addict. I used to cringe every time he touched the ball because I knew there was a decent chance it was going to end up in the stands. That Tony Allen? Give me a break. You trolls are getting more ridiculous by the day,
    Posted by df4

     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

    In Response to Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.:
    This kid gets it, gets after it, and has the physical conditioning to give the BEST perimeter scorers HELL! I just hope the refs recognize his greatness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9vFHYVXtRk He's definitely better on D and more athletic than Joe Dumars. His free throws are Ray Allen like. His scoring is coming along very nicely. Point is this, we may have another hall of famer in the making besides Rajon Rondo! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrQxJr5u0D0&feature=fvwrel
    Posted by DaCeltics



    Concur.  Obviously, I'm a big Rondo fan and with his continued progression, I can see him in the HOF 5 years after he retires.  In combination with Rondo, Avery is making an impact defensively and has an improving offensive game which gives Rondo another target that puts the ball in the hole.  The Celtics backcourt appears to be set for the next 10 years or so.

    As Always,



     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

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    Bradley can guard 1's and 2's real well... he's like a better Delonte Tony guarded 1's, 2's and 3's... he is better than Bradley, more like a dumars Pippen could guard everyone but the center, as said before, and is one of the 3-4 greatest permimeter defenders of all time Da hasn't watched much of the NBA since before 2008, maybe I'll give him a pass back to when LeBron/Wade entered the league in '03. He has no memory of Pippen/Dumars thats for sure.
    Posted by rameakap

     But Toney was so touch and go.  He had great 5/6 possesion stretches against LeBron but couldn't have sustained it for a whole game.  He never was able to play within himself.  As it stands, A.B. can play the entire game guarding Wade and is an asset, plays within himself and continues to steadily progress, at the age of 20.  I love what Tony did in the 2010 playoff run, but Bradley is steady and if I had to choose one of them it's going to be A.B., and really, because of what seems to be an upside that he will reach, it's not even close.

     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

      Rondo, Bradley and Tony Allen together on the court would be fun to watch. 
     
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      Rondo, Bradley and Tony Allen together on the court would be fun to watch. 
    Posted by vtfanofcs



     ya it would.  I wouldn't be surprised if Tony signs back with the Celts after next year.  Those three would completely befuddle the Heat on the defensive end, and then out race them to the bucket.  If Greene comes back and serves as the 3, Tony could fill for 20/25 minutes a night between the 2 and the 3.
     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

    As a one on one defender, I cant imagine someone being much better than TA was for us.  AB is in the conversation on the perimeter... however, in the post, whats AB gonna do against Kobe??  Uea, he had a nice block on Wade but more times than not, Wade is bigger & stronger than AB and will get the better of him in the post.

    LEt's not forget just how good TA was defensively.

    As far as the rest of TA's game, his career with the C's was checkered at best. Made Ray Allen look like Ernie D handling the ball and Rondo could gve him lessons on jump shots.  You've heard of the dessert apple-turnover? Well TA was a basketball-turnover. 

    AB has come along brilliantly and made a fool of my conclusion he was a worthless draft pick that shouldnt even play in the D league.  I also like what appears to be a very humble player as well.
     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

    I am loving Bradley too...but agree it's too early to start talking about Hall of Fame. Celtics are playing with a lot of heart this season and have exceeded my expectations.
     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

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    Please tell me you are joking. I love Bradley and his energy on D. And I think he has a chance to be a great defender. As a matter of fact, outside of Pierce he is my favorite Celtic. But Hall of Fame? Come on. It's way too early to even think about that. But if you are being objective, the odds are slim to none. And the only way Rondo gets within sniffing distance is after the Big Three are gone they rebuild and he is the starting PG for a few more banner winning teams. But back to Bradley, I would still take Bruce Bowen in his prime over Bradley right now. But his ceiling is off the charts. Not only will he get better, he will get smarter. And I don't want to compare him to a guy like Artest because Bradley is a much better defender. Artest is a mediocre defender who gets away with consistently cheating because of his rep as a great defender. But that's my point. Artest is the perfect example. Once Avery starts to get that rep, he will be even scarier defensively. Look at what he's doing right now. And that's with the rookie treatment from the officials. Think about how good he will be when the refs stop squeezing him with BS fouls, just let him play and maybe even get away with a thing or two. 
    Posted by df4


    You could'nt go wrong with Bowen in his prime. Bradley is right there, though and does a better job on the primary ball handlers than Pippen and Bowen could.

    Primary ball handlers are the drivers of the oppositions offense.

    Successfully harassing primary ball handlers is the very starting point of a good defense.

    The great big men throughout history had to have teammates that were capable of getting them the ball in their sweet spots or they were left to feast on only what they could rebound. ( Not very efficient offense)

    When we delay the primary ball handlers and obstruct their vision of the court, it makes the ball get to the intended scorer with a feeling of " I've got to hurry up and get this ball up".
     
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    Re: Bradley plays the best defense since Scottie Pippen in his prime.

     Rondo, Bradley and Tony Allen together on the court would be fun to watch.                      

    Not only fun but an incredible defensive and fast break team,any one of them improve their shooting a bit and that combo would be really hard to contend with.I said it earlier, I think TA really didn't get a fair shake in Boston fot whatever reason(s) but I'd rather have TA back than Perk.
     
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