Build Through The Draft

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    Re: Build Through The Draft

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    You want all the assets that the Wolves got for KG?

    Big Al

    Gerald Green

    Ryan Gomes

    Sebastian Telfair

    #6 pick of the 2009 Draft

    #28 pick of the 2009 Draft

    The #6 pick is a lottery pick, right?




    Fierce,the Celts also returned Minnesota's 1st rounder that they owned.  People forget that.

     
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    Re: Build Through The Draft

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    The biggest part of that KG deal was the 6th pick of the 2009 Draft.

    That's not only a 1st round pick, that's a lottery pick!

     



     

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2954127

     

    > The package going back to Minnesota, sources say, is built around two assets Wolves vice president Kevin McHale has long coveted: Al Jefferson and Theo Ratliff's expiring contract.

    It is believed the deal also calls for the Celtics to ship youngsters Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair and Ryan Gomes to Minnesota, along with a future first-round draft pick and the return of a first-rounder the Wolves surrendered in the Wally Szczerbiak-Ricky Davis trade in January 2006.

     

    So you are saying that rather than cap space provided by Theo's expiring contract and Big AL, the key to the trade was the 2009 6th and 28th picks that Minny got from the C's?????

    Jonny Flynn and Wayne Ellington are what the T-Wolves were really craving in 2009, not Big Al and Cap Space?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

     

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ....... RIGHT!!!!!!!!

     



    Like I said, the expiring contract is another matter.

     

    OneOnOne said we can trade our mid-level players for a 1st tier player. That's very unlikely because it's very unlikely that we will get an All-Star type player for Lee, Bass, and Terry.

    And come on, a lottery pick and another 1st round pick are not bigger assets than Theo Ratliff and his contract?

     



    What, are you two blind?

     

     

    built around two assets Wolves vice president Kevin McHale has long coveted: Al Jefferson and Theo Ratliff's expiring contract.

     

    So you are saying that rather than cap space provided by Theo's expiring contract and Big AL, the key to the trade was the 2009 6th and 28th picks that Minny got from the C's?????

    Jonny Flynn and Wayne Ellington are what the T-Wolves were really craving in 2009, not Big Al and Cap Space?

     

    Jeesh .... Pay attention!!!!



    hahahahha

     
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    Re: Build Through The Draft

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    Celts have not had a big name free-agent signing since?

     

    I can't remember.

    The Lakers signed Shaq in 1996.

    NY got Amare in 2010.

    When was the last time the Celts signed an All-Star free-agent?

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    I take your point but still don't beleive that it takes only signing a LaQueen to win a championship.  Winning teams comprise productive veterans (all-stars themselves acquired through the draft or trades), younger picks, and role players who can step up - they might be the FA signings.  Posey, House, and Brown helped, no?  They were free agents, maybe not current or ever all-stars, but did they matter?  It's obvious that teams win championships, not individual players or two players.  I'm just of the opinion that: 1. NY/Brk and LAL/LAC cannot sign every decent FA, and 2. there are multiple factors in team building beyond the best of the best all-stars.  The Celtics problems are dictated by the CBA and available money more than whether or not in-their-prime all-stars theoretically sign in droves.  That's just fact over supposition because circumstances determine the need to sign certain FAs.  If the Celtics, over the time from 2008/09 to last year, hadn't been beset by key injuries, these discussion would be different.  "If" doesn't win championships, we all agree, but to my knowledge, the current Heat team of three all-stars has only won one championship. 

     
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