can Drew Gooden play C?

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    can Drew Gooden play C?

    6'10". 250 lbs. 32 years old. most likely will play for a min contract.

    I could live with him getting 25 minutes with Sully, Green, Wallace, Hump and KO on the wings. Iverson looks at 10-15 minutes, and if Fab makes the team, 5-10 min's.

     
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    Re: can Drew Gooden play C?

    Gooden played some center with Milwaukee when he found the floor. He has actually had some pretty respectable scoring and rebounding per 36 min numbers in his career.

    19/9 two seasons ago and 12.5/7.5 last year.

    I'd say no though. We don't need a 32 year old retread taking minutes away from the young guys and the Brandon Bass showcase.

     
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    Re: can Drew Gooden play C?

    I hate the lose on purpose line of discussions.  I do not see the C's doing anything with more losses the reason.

     

    I do however agree with the line of thinking of giving your young guys a chance with some significant minutes IF, AND ONLY IF the FO thinks the guys you have have a chance to be sucessful at the position of need and the current skill level of the guys you have.  Melo is highly doubtful that he is even close to ready.  It will do nothing for his career chances if you put him out there for 15mins a game and he is nothing but a matador who fouls the guy after he passes and can't get into position to get good looks at the basket.  Similar for Sully and KO.  They are "ready" to play PF, but C?  Not going to help their careers to get consistently destroyed on the defensive end by most of the C's in the league.  An Oden or Gooden may be needed as a place holder at the 5 spot until we have either Iverson/Melo ready to take minutes, or the right guy drafted.  at least 3 of Bass, GW, Lee, Humphries, crawford need to be traded(especially GW and Bass) not because they are bad players, not because they will make us too good to get better draft picks, but rather they are at positions of excess, with "poor" contracts, and in position to take minutes away from the C's young core who IS ready to take on the minutes.  AB and MB have SG covered making Lee and Crawford excess.  Green and Bogans have SF covered, making GW excess.  Sully and KO have PF covered making Bass excess.  Rondo and Pressey now have PG covered.  C is really nobody that is ready except a fill in type that is Humphries, and 2 young guys of unknown(iverson) or not yet ready ability(Melo). 

     

    I would try hard to trade GW or Lee, crawford, and Bass  I keep humphries and Lee ideally.  Lee is young, talented, and versatile enough to play SG and SF.  Humphries is a big body and expiring contract.  Bass is not getting better than he is, has a larger, longer overall contract, and will only take minutes from Sully and KO.  G.W. is valuable as a 7 or 8th man on a contending team, but serves no major function on a rebuilding team.  Crawford is what he is.  A 10-12 type player.  A JAG, a roster fill in who can do one thing decently, but is not a rotation player.  The C's need to do a dump3 and pick up a big body type of revamp.

     
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    Re: can Drew Gooden play C?

    I agree, but what young players? KO will regress if he plays C. Fab will foul out of every game in 5 minutes. Who or which young guy is the C? A vet who can show the way, sign a 1 year min deal is still needed. This team is a lotto team with Gooden, but KO will not regress and Fab will not be embarassed

     
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    Re: can Drew Gooden play C?


    not for the Celtics.

    that would be a PERIOD at the end there

     
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    Re: can Drew Gooden play C?

    omg.. drew gooden has his own thread?... really?

     
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    Re: can Drew Gooden play C?

    rkarp put down the pipe. 

    we don't need old journeymen right now. 

    we'll roll with the kids, that's the whole point. 

    you seem to be missing the point. We're not trying to patch together a serviceable team. We're trying to develop young players while losing as many games as we can based on being overmatched. 

     

         
     
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    Re: can Drew Gooden play C?

    COMPLETELY NONSENSICAL to bring Drew Gooden in even for minimum wage.....

    It's all about seeing what Fab Melo, Vitor HOMBRE INDESTRUCTIBLE Faveroni, Colton Iverson and Kelly Olynyk can do...plus Jared Sullinger can help out also

    It's going to be fun watching Brad Stevens play 11-12 guys every night....

    NO HALF MEASURES !

    And I still say if Rondo stays, the Celtics win more than 41 games....

    PS: Who is Marcus Smart ?

     
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    Re: can Drew Gooden play C?

    In response to BostonTrollSpanker's comment:

    rkarp put down the pipe. 

    we don't need old journeymen right now. 

    we'll roll with the kids, that's the whole point. 

    you seem to be missing the point. We're not trying to patch together a serviceable team. We're trying to develop young players while losing as many games as we can based on being overmatched. 

     

         



    But you don't want to hurt the kids and see them regress. Putting KO at C is a mistake. He needs to play, but not at C. Fab is not an NBA player at this time. He should be in the D-league.

    To have a vet presence like Collins or Gooden would be a good role model for the young guys.

    The young guys still play and improve with a vet getting 25 minutes, Iverson getting 15 minutes and if Fab is on the team getting 5-8 minutes....

     
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    Re: can Drew Gooden play C?

    In response to BostonTrollSpanker's comment:

    rkarp put down the pipe. 

    we don't need old journeymen right now. 

    we'll roll with the kids, that's the whole point. 

    you seem to be missing the point. We're not trying to patch together a serviceable team. We're trying to develop young players while losing as many games as we can based on being overmatched. 

     The point is never to lose.  Never.  NEVER!  The point is to win championships as soon as possible.  Sometimes the teams have to take a step back and rebuild the talent level through all possible means, and that means more loses in the short term.  The idea of tanking it is never good for the long term culture of the team.  It is also not good for the confidence of a young player to get put into a position they are not ready for.  To get hammered and beat embarrassingly over and over as you force them to play big minutes before they are ready is a terrible idea.  Melo is in that situation.  KO looks ready offensively, but Defensively is yet to be determined.  The right veterns at the right $ and the right contract length is worth it for the long term health of the team.  If the C's do not find an additional body to man at least 20 mins a game of time they will be making a mistake.

         




     
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