Can the C's risk losing Baby in a deal for Rudy Fernandez?

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    Re: Can the C's risk losing Baby in a deal for Rudy Fernandez?

    If Big Baby is traded for that bust Rudy Fernandez, Danny Ainge deserves to be FIRED.

    I'm sure the ownership would explore that possibility without question, if that deal was executed.

    I just don't get this love/lust for Rudy Fernandez... It was proven he couldn't be a factor in Portland, who is a young team on the rise.

    Why would we want this guy on the Celtics??

    NEXT!!
     
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    Re: Can the C's risk losing Baby in a deal for Rudy Fernandez?

    He is stuck behind Brandon Roy and typecast as the long range shooter in Portland.  Fernandez can be more than that.  The C's could match up capwise and rosterwise by trading Lafayette and Gaffney for Fernadez plus whatever pick(s) may be holding it up.  This puts Wafer on the fringe of the roster, but Fernandez is better than he is...It sort of looks like Wafer is the long range shooter for the C's though.

    BBD will most likely not be part of a deal for Fernandez. 
     
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    Fernandez had a chance to shine, but because he couldn't throw it in the ocean, HE LOST PLAYING TIME.
     
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    I love BBD. Some guys canot do it in the clutch or when their team needs them to respond. BBD does! He's done it on the biggest stage.......I'm not sure how much more upside he has though. He can & will be a starter @ some point, but will he consistantly contribute? IDK?......Fernandez is a unique talent. Very athletic, sees the floor well, he kind of does it all. & he has the potential (if you ask me to average 18 7 & 5) to blossom into a star. I can see why Ainge is high on him.

    This one is a risky move. But i do think that Fernandez has a higher ceiling than BBD.....
     
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    Re: Can the C's risk losing Baby in a deal for Rudy Fernandez?

    Rudy is not that good and certainly not worth giving up Davis.
     
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    noway pal i wouldn't give up UnoUno for no one right about now are you kidding me?
     
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    [QUOTE]I don't mean to keep beating the same horse, but if we do trade Big Baby then we definitely need to bring in Antoine Walker for a look. Who are the best 3 FA PF's available?  IMO it's down to Toine, Anthony Tolliver (who is likely to sign with either Golden State or Minnesota) and Louis Amundson.  (Sorry Brian Scalabrine and Mikki Moore, but I'm not including you in this group.  You may have been on an NBA roster last season but that doesn't automatically make you guys superior options)...And while Toine's foibles are well documented, the fact remains that he provides a certain versatility as well as experience/durability/reliability (5 seasons of playing a full 82 games which no current Celtic can match... heck, Jermaine O'Neal has never even had ONE season of playing a full 82) that few others can top.  And while the topic of a Toine reunion is germane to this thread since we are talking about losing a PF, I don't mean to hijack it further... so if anyone wants to sound off or vote on the Toine issue, be sure to head over to the "BRING BACK TOINE" thread. 
    Posted by toineson[/QUOTE]
     
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    [QUOTE]I don't mean to keep beating the same horse, but if we do trade Big Baby then we definitely need to bring in Antoine Walker for a look. Who are the best 3 FA PF's available?  IMO it's down to Toine, Anthony Tolliver (who is likely to sign with either Golden State or Minnesota) and Louis Amundson.  (Sorry Brian Scalabrine and Mikki Moore, but I'm not including you in this group.  You may have been on an NBA roster last season but that doesn't automatically make you guys superior options)...And while Toine's foibles are well documented, the fact remains that he provides a certain versatility as well as experience/durability/reliability (5 seasons of playing a full 82 games which no current Celtic can match... heck, Jermaine O'Neal has never even had ONE season of playing a full 82) that few others can top.  And while the topic of a Toine reunion is germane to this thread since we are talking about losing a PF, I don't mean to hijack it further... so if anyone wants to sound off or vote on the Toine issue, be sure to head over to the "BRING BACK TOINE" thread. 
    Posted by toineson[/QUOTE]


    Dude!!!!....... Toine is done and has been for some 5 years. Why do you keep bringing him up? No one in the leage is interested in signing him...NO ONE. Look, if you want to marry the guy go ahead...just leave the rest of us out of your courtship.

    LB 
     
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    Re: Can the C's risk losing Baby in a deal for Rudy Fernandez?

    A) Shaq (6.3m), Rudy (1.2m) & Tolliver (1.5m) to C's for Sheed (6.3m), BBD (3m) #1 Pick

    B) Sheed (6.3m), Bayless (2.3m) & Przybilla (7.4m) to Cavs for Shaq (6.3m) & Mo Williams (9.3m)

    C) Mo Will (9.3m), BBD (3m) & #1 pick to Portland for Przy (7.4m), Tolliver (1.5), Bayless (2.3m) & Rudy (1.2m)

    Why would the Blazers want Mo Williams when they have Andre Miller. And Tolliver is not the property of the Blazers so there's no way what you just proposed is a 3-way deal.

    Before you come up with trade scenarios I think you should also consider if the other teams involved would benefit from the trade. Trades are suppose to help all parties involved, not just the Celtics. 
     
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    [QUOTE]IMHO Louis Amundson would be a perfectly adequate replacement for Davis.
    Posted by jm02130[/QUOTE]

    that's a hoot.  sweet lou shoots from the outside?  and he can D up big 5's like shaq, duncan, bynum, howard?  no he can't.  what davis can do, with his 300 and whatever pounds worth of himself is body big guys OUT of the lanelike nobody else who's been on the celts for a long time. 

    not even vitaly potato was as strong as davis is.  so if you think that lou amundson, who is a really nice hustle player, is going to do that, you're nuts.  amundson is a lot closer to a physically enhanced scal than glen davis.

    and all o' you folks who want to wad up davis into any old deal you can think of- aparently you don't recognize that he is one of the biggest, most nimble and BEST help defenders in the league.  that's right, boys and girls, it's an off the stat sheet thing that davis does and he has preserved and/or turned around a LOT of games for us. 

    as good a hustle player as amundson is, he doesn't evoke the same gag reflex in the opposing player as suddenly seeing a wooly mammoth like davis where he isn't supposed to be.  amundson has some good help D skills in his tool bag, but not as good as davis.

    so what i can see is that we'd be trading down in almost every major category to settle for an amundson over what we have no in davis.  it would be  areally dumb move.  not even really fun to think about, if you think about it. 
     
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