Can we Expect the Refs to Call a Fair Game?

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    Can we Expect the Refs to Call a Fair Game?

    A little debate has been ragin' about whether the refs cost the Celtics the game on Sunday.

    Without a doubt the Celtics played poorly Sunday, bad in fact, bad enough to lose.  But without a doubt it was a winnable game for the C's: they were in the game long after they should have been counted out:  a number of very questionable calls were made that definately tilted the board in the Heat's favor.

    Now that the League has looked into the refs calls and reversed some, will tonight's game be called more evenly?

    I like this from Karlost on the BDC forum:

    "Not buying into wdidnt lose cause of the refs.Why can we ose for aying badly but never lose cause of refs??  Is this the male testosterone talking that cant have an excuse??

    Of course we could lose because of the refs... Did we today??? We'll never know.. but tell me...  if the big calls were made correctly... meaning 

    1- Rondos BS foul of Jones wasnt called 

    2- JON BS flagrant wasnt called 

    3- Jones & Wades non calls which were flagrants were called 

    4- Pierce was tossed for another BS Tech 

    Leaving aside any in-game type calls, do you think if these Tech/Flagrant calls were done correctly, we could have possibly won the game?  

    If you say YES, then your theories of the refs not costing us a game  fly out the window.. 

    If you say NO, how can you be viewed as reasonable or objective?" 



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    [QUOTE]A little debate has been ragin' about whether the refs cost the Celtics the game on Sunday. Without a doubt the Celtics played poorly Sunday, bad in fact, bad enough to lose.  But without a doubt it was a winnable game for the C's: they were in the game long after they should have been counted out:  a number of very questionable calls were made that definately tilted the board in the Heat's favor. Now that the League has looked into the refs calls and reversed some, will tonight's game be called more evenly? I like this from www.boston.com/community/forums.html?plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3aSportsForum%3a734e2bc9-e1bc-49d6-8355-64f9a8500246Discussion%3a686c7914-1b43-4a62-b26f-5564bf4fc8a2 " /> Karlost on the BDC forum : Not buying into wdidnt lose cause of the refs. Why can we ose for aying badly but never lose cause of refs??  Is this the male testosterone talking that cant have an excuse?? Of course we could lose because of the refs... Did we today??? We'll never know.. but tell me...  if the big calls were made correctly... meaning   1- Rondos BS foul of Jones wasnt called   2- JON BS flagrant wasnt called   3- Jones & Wades non calls which were flagrants were called   4- Pierce was tossed for another BS Tech   Leaving aside any in-game type calls, do you think if these Tech/Flagrant calls were done correctly, we could have possibly won the game?   If you say YES, then your theories of the refs not costing us a game  fly out the window..   If you say NO, how can you be viewed as reasonable or objective?  Ski on Twitter http://rajonrondowski.blogspot.com/  
    Posted by RajonRondowski[/QUOTE]

    Let's see the Cs were not in the game after about 15 minutes but of coures it was winnable...... the refs costs teams as many as it helps teams.......  just imagine if the Cs were as athletic and young and talented as the Heat, then maybe we would not have to see thread after thread about the refs........
     
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    Whats the big deal with the refs. They gonna make call.Sometimes they gonna be right sometimes the gonna be wrong. It goes both ways.


     
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    We need some "goons". What happened to the days of Joe Kleine and Greg Kite.

    Pavlovic and Arroyo would be good to put in to mix it up some.
     
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    can we expect the celtics to continue to cry about the refs?
     
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    [QUOTE]Whats the big deal with the refs. They gonna make call.Sometimes they gonna be right sometimes the gonna be wrong. It goes both ways.
    Posted by Wade3[/QUOTE]

    Whats the big deal with the refs?

    Well it goes something like this.....

    The Cs are the best team, the other team is a bunch of nameless faceless poseurs who have no business being on the same floor, so when the Cs are beaten or worse dominated, someone is to blame other than the Cs... if you live your life vicariously through your sports teams, and they by definition are the best well ummm.. because you are... then when they lose there is a conspiracy against you because how on earth could anyone be better than us / we / ummm the Cs......

    Whenever you read posts where "we" didn't play well, and "the refs" costs "us" the game, there are blacktop players that have not touched a ball in 30 years that somehow think that a bunch of guys that cannot find Boston on a map represent them and if they are beaten then it has to be something other than the fact they were outplayed because that would make them something less than the greatest person on the planet.....

    So if and when it is possible to blame injuries and the refs, etc. it should be employed regardless of whether it is even remotely applicable or not.  It enables people who think "we" were robbed to feel better about themselves.

    The complete inability to be objective and see that over a long period of time refs mean almost nothing to the game, it always serves up the excuse for the team.

    Pierce commits about 10 offensive fouls per game, Rondo palms and travels on every possession, KG commits about 25 fouls per game, Perk at least 30, etc. but none of that matters unless of course it goes the other way.
     
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    celtics have to play through it. they have done it plenty in the past. it will be jsut another sereis where they have to do it. its funny cause the celtics usually get more  "homer" calls on the road.
     
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    I still don't think, in the end, that the NBA wants the heat to win.  I don't expect a 14 ft discrepency per game like we had in the first.

    I do think the c's took more fouls and should have gotten more fouls.  But I also think a lot of fouls the other way were ignored.

    And the third foul on rondo was clearly a fix.
     
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    RR,
    You're right. Especially considering that the leaque changed 2 of those BS calls.
    On the other hand, if Celtics played as they can and as they're supposed to play, the talk about those calls would be academic.

    AK
     
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    I go way back with the Celts. When they would play Philly in the Eastern finals, they usually had home court advantage. You were really expected to win the first 2 "must games"at home, steal 1 on the road, then have a shot to close it out in "crucial" game 5. Which you couldn't do with an archrival. So it went 7. Same thing with the Lakers in the finals. You always expected a 7-game series. The reason it was so hard to win on the road was "home court advantage" which the refs would grant you. It was sort of a reward for having the best record. I guess that no longer applies. The regular season is meaningless, becuse there's no home court advantage. There are greater expectations put on the visitor. So I don't know what to think.
     
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    [QUOTE]I still don't think, in the end, that the NBA wants the heat to win.  I don't expect a 14 ft discrepency per game like we had in the first. I do think the c's took more fouls and should have gotten more fouls.  But I also think a lot of fouls the other way were ignored. And the third foul on rondo was clearly a fix.

    Posted by cole-ely[/QUOTE]

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    But saying that is akin to saying that the NBA does have someone in mind that it wants to win.

    If not the Heat, who, surely not the Celtics: it sure didn't look like it was called even.


    "RR,
    You're right. Especially considering that the leaque changed 2 of those BS calls.
    On the other hand, if Celtics played as they can and as they're supposed to play, the talk about those calls would be academic."

    AK


    You are so right, AK, not only would it be academic, it would be a moot point.

    Those early turnovers and intentional fouls did as much, probably more, than the the bad officiating in laying the groundwork for our losing effort.

    Still, bad officiating sullies the game and casts doubt on the legitimacy of the Games.  It's difficult to watch and understand.



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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Can we Expect the Refs to Call a Fair Game? : Whats the big deal with the refs? Well it goes something like this..... The Cs are the best team, the other team is a bunch of nameless faceless poseurs who have no business being on the same floor, so when the Cs are beaten or worse dominated, someone is to blame other than the Cs... if you live your life vicariously through your sports teams, and they by definition are the best well ummm.. because you are... then when they lose there is a conspiracy against you because how on earth could anyone be better than us / we / ummm the Cs...... Whenever you read posts where "we" didn't play well, and "the refs" costs "us" the game, there are blacktop players that have not touched a ball in 30 years that somehow think that a bunch of guys that cannot find Boston on a map represent them and if they are beaten then it has to be something other than the fact they were outplayed because that would make them something less than the greatest person on the planet..... So if and when it is possible to blame injuries and the refs, etc. it should be employed regardless of whether it is even remotely applicable or not.  It enables people who think "we" were robbed to feel better about themselves. The complete inability to be objective and see that over a long period of time refs mean almost nothing to the game, it always serves up the excuse for the team. Pierce commits about 10 offensive fouls per game, Rondo palms and travels on every possession, KG commits about 25 fouls per game, Perk at least 30, etc. but none of that matters unless of course it goes the other way.
    Posted by TheDUDDER[/QUOTE]

    Look up hyperbole in the dictionary.  If you didn't use so much of it you might be able to write a convincing post.

     
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    Pierce commits about 10 offensive fouls per game, Rondo palms and travels on every possession, KG commits about 25 fouls per game, Perk at least 30, etc. but none of that matters unless of course it goes the other way.

    Dudder,the Doubter...do you seriously think about what you post.?? You sound delusional at best, and I fear for your family at worst. You have surely turned into a troll... There is hatred, anger, frustration in your posts...  You might as well go to the dark side over at Laker nation...
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Can we Expect the Refs to Call a Fair Game? : Whats the big deal with the refs? Well it goes something like this..... The Cs are the best team, the other team is a bunch of nameless faceless poseurs who have no business being on the same floor, so when the Cs are beaten or worse dominated, someone is to blame other than the Cs... if you live your life vicariously through your sports teams, and they by definition are the best well ummm.. because you are... then when they lose there is a conspiracy against you because how on earth could anyone be better than us / we / ummm the Cs...... Whenever you read posts where "we" didn't play well, and "the refs" costs "us" the game, there are blacktop players that have not touched a ball in 30 years that somehow think that a bunch of guys that cannot find Boston on a map represent them and if they are beaten then it has to be something other than the fact they were outplayed because that would make them something less than the greatest person on the planet..... So if and when it is possible to blame injuries and the refs, etc. it should be employed regardless of whether it is even remotely applicable or not.  It enables people who think "we" were robbed to feel better about themselves. The complete inability to be objective and see that over a long period of time refs mean almost nothing to the game, it always serves up the excuse for the team. Pierce commits about 10 offensive fouls per game, Rondo palms and travels on every possession, KG commits about 25 fouls per game, Perk at least 30, etc. but none of that matters unless of course it goes the other way.
    Posted by TheDUDDER[/QUOTE]

    NO ONE LISTENS TO YOUR DIARREHEA SO LEAVE THIS AREA AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!
     
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