Celtic Dominance

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    [QUOTE]As a true Laker fan I have to hand it to you Duke.  You have shown the dominance of your team vs my team (The Lakers)  I knew it was lopsided but you just head butted me and woke me up.  As one of my fellow Laker poster has said time and again "you just mitchslapped me" .  You guys have a classy organization and should be proud of your accomplishments.   I hope we can reach that level in my lifetime. Let me also apologize for my fellow Laker fans that come here to antagonize. I have a feeling you guys will make the finals this year as you have a very talented team.  I worry about my guys as we have really aged.  Kobe is not near the player he use to be, only trouble is he doesn't realize it. DH has back problems that I am also worried about.
    Posted by lakerfaker[/QUOTE]
    You are truly the wisest and classiest Lake show fan since Worthy. You certainly earned a beer summit moment with the ultimate Celtic fan Fierce in French Lick, if the gods allow...It most surely be a sort of Grant meets Lee moment that would be worthy of a reality T.V. series or even pay per view. I hope I'm the first customer!
     
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    [QUOTE]You can inflate your egos, delude yourselves on how great the Celtics have been back in ancient history, but the fact remains that the Laker franchise has been more relevant with an expanded league, with athletes getting much better--bigger, stronger, faster. So the era of the Celtics was the 1960s when the league was still at the developmental stage, with only 8 teams. But the 80s and the 2000s were the era of the LAKERS. 5 titles in the 80s and 5 titles in the 2000s. Would I want the reverse? Would I want to switch places with Boston and have the Lakers dominate the 60s but be irrelevant since? Not in an nanosecond! Now some of you worry that the Lakers may win yet another title. I really don't make any predictions. I enjoy each season and realize that there are a slew of conditions that need to come together for any team to win a championship. 2 years ago it was Dallas, this past season it was Miami. But it will be fun watching who prevails. Who knows? It may even be Philly with the addition of Bynum. You Boston fans can brag all you want about winning ONE TITLE in 2008 since the 80s. JUST 1! I'll take the 5 titles in the 2000s. :-) Good luck this upcoming season. Just remember that 1 title over the past 20 years doesn't cut it. Not if you want to call yourself a DYNASTY.
    Posted by LakerFan67[/QUOTE]

    If anyone is inflating, then it's the Laker fans because if you think the 60's were irrelevant, then you guys should definitely not want anything to do with the Minny titles from the late 40's and early 50's!

    Sure, there may have been fewer teams in the league during our unprecented run but you guys had just as many hall of famers as well as arguably more athletic players during that time and unlike us, you didn't have to go through a young and dominant Wilt Chamberlain to get to the finals for most of those years.

    In fact, you guys finally won your first title in LA only after getting Wilt and a coach who knew how to win because he had played for and won titles with the Celtics.
     
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    In response to "Re: Celtic Dominance": [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtic Dominance : Question, how do you handle all the gas from the re-fried beans? Do the farts leave streaks in your shorts? Is that why your car rides so low, so the farts will escape out the window more quickly? "Beat LA!" "Beat LA!"  Posted by nutter44[/QUOTE] Wow, that's some racist comment
     
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    [QUOTE]In response to "Re: Celtic Dominance": Wow, that's some racist comment
    Posted by dirty52[/QUOTE]

    The problem with that statement isn't so much that its racist, but that its just plain wrong. Anyone who has ever "cut the cheese" in their own vehicle knows w/out a doubt that you want that fragrance to linger until the end of time. Admit that this is the one great truism in human evolution. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtic Dominance : you also said there's no way the Lakers can sign Howard with Kobe and Gasol under contract.  WATCH, I'LL BET THAT HAPPENS!
    Posted by dfurypos[/QUOTE]

    once fierce contaminate the thread...it's OVER!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtic Dominance : The problem with that statement isn't so much that its racist, but that its just plain wrong. Anyone who has ever "cut the cheese" in their own vehicle knows w/out a doubt that you want that fragrance to linger until the end of time. Admit that this is the one great truism in human evolution. 
    Posted by tomobo[/QUOTE]LOL! Classic!

     
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    [QUOTE]You can inflate your egos, delude yourselves on how great the Celtics have been back in ancient history, but the fact remains that the Laker franchise has been more relevant with an expanded league, with athletes getting much better--bigger, stronger, faster. So the era of the Celtics was the 1960s when the league was still at the developmental stage, with only 8 teams. But the 80s and the 2000s were the era of the LAKERS. 5 titles in the 80s and 5 titles in the 2000s. Would I want the reverse? Would I want to switch places with Boston and have the Lakers dominate the 60s but be irrelevant since? Not in an nanosecond! Now some of you worry that the Lakers may win yet another title. I really don't make any predictions. I enjoy each season and realize that there are a slew of conditions that need to come together for any team to win a championship. 2 years ago it was Dallas, this past season it was Miami. But it will be fun watching who prevails. Who knows? It may even be Philly with the addition of Bynum. You Boston fans can brag all you want about winning ONE TITLE in 2008 since the 80s. JUST 1! I'll take the 5 titles in the 2000s. :-) Good luck this upcoming season. Just remember that 1 title over the past 20 years doesn't cut it. Not if you want to call yourself a DYNASTY.
    Posted by LakerFan67[/QUOTE]
    So which is it? We're irrelevant since the sixties or we're irrelevant for having 1 title since the 80's.? Are you confused which insult to hurl at big brother? Laker fans kill me. More teams means talent dilution and titles can be won with less talent. the league was tough in the 60's. And there were more than eight teams. it was 10 or 12. But with Russell here, it didn't matter. He refused to let us lose. What you lakers still don't get is DEFENSE.
     
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    to LakerFan67.....you must remember that this thread was originally started by a Laker fan almost 3 years ago....he made reference to a "Hollinger" article proclaiming the Lakers as the league's marquee franchise since the birth of the league back in the late '40's....he listed Boston as #2....his entire concept was based on facts taken from over 50 years of league play....Celtic fans took exception since the Celtics own so many tie-breakers in this discussion....(it is worth noting that Hollinger is an avid Laker fan just as Bill Simmons is an avid Celtic fan)....this was one man's opinion and Laker fans ran with it......believe it or not, at the age of around 9 years old, I was actually a Laker fan (Elgin Baylor was my hero).....as I grew older I began to appreciate the greatness that was the Celtics....yet I still rooted for the Lakers as my "2nd team"......when Bird and Magic entered the league and the rivalry heated up (especially fans of both teams baiting each other beyond belief) I developed a hatred (strong word) of the Laker franchise.....still, I never stopped respecting them...

    to say that the Lakers have been more relevant since the beginning of the millenium is an accurate statement.....many "trolls" come over now and try to downplay the Celtics recent five year assention back to the top....they cite the long drought ('87 through '07 of over 20 years without ever discussing the Laker drought that produced one championship from '55 through '79.....part of our decline can certainly be based, in part, on the deaths of both Len Bias and Reggie Lewis......this surely set the franchise back)

    I am a lifelong Dodger (and Sox) fan.....I have revelled in the Sox assention to recent greatness (breaking the long World Series draught).....I am a history buff and I recall most of the Dodgers' glory days beginning in the mid '50's....my team last won a championship in 1988.....since then there hasn't been much to shout about but I continue to root for them....with new ownership I am looking forward to more championships in the years to come.....I am also a Ram fan and I, for one, would like to see them return to Los Angeles...

    I just wanted to share my take on this never ending debate.....in my view these are the greatest franchises the league has seen and there is no better rivalry...it has been fun watching all these years.....I think of myself as a "young sixty something" (at least in mind).....I can recall all the glory years of past history, I am enjoying the present, and I look forward to the future....

    respectfully yours.....
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtic Dominance : You PC egghead! I'm part Hispanic myself! The point is that we don't want Laker trolls on here and we sure don't need em crackin wise in spanish on this sight. Go watch MSNBC and celebrate your own diversity. I am Scot, irish, Hispanic and really only worry about being an American. When it comes to basketball there's the C's and then there's everybody else. Lighten up, Francis!
    Posted by nutter44[/QUOTE]


    Maybe you should learn Spanish.  Since it was a Celtic's fan that posted it
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtic Dominance : Maybe you should learn Spanish.  Since it was a Celtic's fan that posted it
    Posted by dirty52[/QUOTE]
    OK, then my bad! My Spanish is not real strong. I took German in HS instead and only know a little bit through family members. My bad. Via con Dios, amigo.

     
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    The strategy of cobbling together a championship is unique in L.A. When Jerry West was in charge he refused to intentionally tank a season to get a shot at high draft picks, a strategy followed in Boston (2007), Cleveland to get Lebron, OKC to achieve their current roster and now being attempted by Orlando.

    It's the league's fault by rewarding mediocrity, giving losing franchises high picks and applying luxury taxes to spread the wealth. Socialism doesn't work in a for-profit sports enterprise. 

    You want to blame Jerry Buss for being able to get Howard but he's playing by the current rules. The Lakers are relevant because they have an owner willing to take the risks to garner a title. Most teams are unwilling to spend the money. It's that simple.

    You guys keep gloating about the 1960s but outside of Boston, most NBA fans don't care about what happened half-century ago. Whether it be 2008 when the Celtics let out a sigh of relief after 2 decades of failure, or the recent back-to-back titles in L.A., what is relevant is Miami and OKC for most fans.  

    So keep attempting to marginalize the success of the Lakers and inflating the 1 title Boston won in 2008. I would do the same if I were a Boston fan--scream to high heaven about how fantastic the Celtics have been because of 2008. For most L.A. fans, if you don't win a title, the season was a failure.
     
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    [QUOTE]What a ridiculous thread.  The Celtics haven't been dominate since the 60's!!  They had a small run during the 80's, but they certainly weren't dominant.  Reflecting on the dominate years is nice, but it is certainly isn't reflective of the parameters of the league at that time.  Eight teams in the whole league, no salary cap and almost a different set of rules.  Almost all of those players would get crushed in today's league of bigger, faster and stronger players.  The notion that the Lakers don't have 16 Championships is almost comical.  Bottom line in reference to today's game is the Lakers have a better than good chance to win a couple of more titles with the pieces put into place and they will not be good for Celtics fans
    Posted by dfurypos[/QUOTE]

    With Kobe who said he's going to retire soon, a 40 year old white PG, a paper mache Spaniard who is on the downside, a one and done Center coming off back surgery, a clown for a coach and no bench?!? I'll take my chances with the rebuilding C's.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtic Dominance : You're a Celtic's fan and you have no choice but to back rebuilding Celtic team.  Championship 17 and 18 for Lakers on the way.  Hope all is well.
    Posted by dfurypos[/QUOTE]

    I am a Celtic fan (which is why I post here and not on an LA Times or OC Register forum) but I am also a realist.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtic Dominance : As a fellow Celtic fan, I have accepted that the Lakers are the team to beat this year and my Celtics are not going to even sniff the Finals for a few more years. I am a realist also.
    Posted by GoGREEN![/QUOTE]
    If you are in fact a Celtic fan, then I am disappointed to hear this considering that we are a better and deeper team than last year and now the Lakers also have a small window (some could argue smaller) yet with a lot more question marks than the C's.

    Case in point, should both teams get off to poor starts next year I would think the Staples Center would shake with panic with Kobe & Pau sniping at each other, Brown & DH nervously giggling, and Nash & Metta acting indifferent while the C's would remain more stable knowing that they will get better and gel by the playoffs.
     
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    dog, trust me...GoGreen and Tommyrules are only pretending to be Celtic fans so that they can "point out Celtic flaws" and "pump the the Lakers"......probably just kids....I can't really imagine adults doing it.....take my advice and do as I do....put them on ignore and move on...it's alot more enjoyable reading intelligent posts from both sides....
     
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    laker fan 67,

    LOL...to fans out side of boston there titles dont matter?...if the past didnt happen could the presant or future happen. NOPE...so the past does matter..Where would this league be with no russell vs. wilt...the league didnt appear when magic signed with la. History matters, george washington was the first president..thats it...Not lincoln...The celtics early titles matter its part of evolution..if you think your above evolution..lol....your a loony...nobody is above evolution
     
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    [QUOTE]dog, trust me...GoGreen and Tommyrules are only pretending to be Celtic fans so that they can "point out Celtic flaws" and "pump the the Lakers"......probably just kids....I can't really imagine adults doing it.....take my advice and do as I do....put them on ignore and move on...it's alot more enjoyable reading intelligent posts from both sides....
    Posted by Duke4[/QUOTE]

    Yeah, their avatars and usernames are pretty transparent...haha! What is also sad is that they have the time to make fake profiles, write bogus posts, and then respond to them using their real profiles. That's pretty obsessive!
     
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    17 beats 16 is really all you need to know

    But it is amusing that some people think a team with less overall titles, who crams 5 championships won in the pre-shot clock era in another city onto one insulting banner, and only did so many years after they moved once there was a chance to catch th C's, is a superior franchise overall
     
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