We are all missing the new experimental plan. A Celtic secret weapon team. The plan is to have a super fast team of 2's and 3's interchangeable and supported by a minimum number of fast 3's and 4's. The opposition having no chance of keeping up with this new basketball concept that will rule in the ensuing fast paced games that will evolve. Those fast players will be working on those leg presses and lateral drills to box out all of those slow giants that will try to thwart this new concept . Watch with diligence and wait!
Celtic Secret weapon
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Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/21/2013 8:59 PM EST
- heirplain
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Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/21/2013 9:03 PM EST
- heirplain
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In response to TommyRules' comment:
This is a fantasy.
Boston doesn't have a playmaking guard that will lead the offense.
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Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/21/2013 9:12 PM EST
- Rajon-Hondo
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It is that game plan that won us 11 of 17 championships.
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Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/21/2013 9:14 PM EST
- heirplain
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In response to Rajon-Hondo's comment:
It is that game plan that won us 11 of 17 championships.
Maybe.. Look at Dave Cowens playing 5..Superb! -
Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/21/2013 9:22 PM EST
- heirplain
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In response to Rajon-Hondo's comment:
It is that game plan that won us 11 of 17 championships.
Russ is not walking through that door unfortunately.. -
Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/21/2013 9:35 PM EST
- BirdLewsBias
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Um, to run you have to rebound first.
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Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/21/2013 9:46 PM EST
- heirplain
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In response to BirdLewsBias' comment:
Um, to run you have to rebound first.
I agree but why does RR have so many rebounds?This was initially a tongue in cheek point but really?
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Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/21/2013 11:46 PM EST
- KennCelt53
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In response to heirplain's comment:
In response to BirdLewsBias' comment:
Um, to run you have to rebound first.
I agree but why does RR have so many rebounds?This was initially a tongue in cheek point but really?
Bass doesn't seem to anticipate where the rebound is going nor is his body prepared to go get it. That doesn't even address the boxing out or positioning he doesn't seem to do well. His problem seems to be more of a lack of rebounding mindset, as though he hasn't decided to be a rebounder, yet. -
Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/22/2013 12:02 AM EST
- kyceltic
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In response to heirplain's comment:
Does this mean Pierce will be on the bench?We are all missing the new experimental plan. A Celtic secret weapon team. The plan is to have a super fast team of 2's and 3's interchangeable and supported by a minimum number of fast 3's and 4's. The opposition having no chance of keeping up with this new basketball concept that will rule in the ensuing fast paced games that will evolve. Those fast players will be working on those leg presses and lateral drills to box out all of those slow giants that will try to thwart this new concept . Watch with diligence and wait!
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Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/22/2013 12:08 AM EST
- Fierce34
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In response to KennCelt53's comment:
Bass doesn't seem to anticipate where the rebound is going nor is his body prepared to go get it. That doesn't even address the boxing out or positioning he doesn't seem to do well. His problem seems to be more of a lack of rebounding mindset, as though he hasn't decided to be a rebounder, yet.
The problem with Bass is he has to rebound with both hands. Bass can't rebound with just one hand.Sully's a good rebounder because he uses one hand to hold off the opposing player then grabs the rebound with the other hand.
Try looking more closely at Bass when he tries to get a rebound, I'm sure you'll see he always rebounds with 2 hands.
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Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/22/2013 12:14 AM EST
- KennCelt53
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In response to Fierce34's comment:
In response to KennCelt53's comment:
Bass doesn't seem to anticipate where the rebound is going nor is his body prepared to go get it. That doesn't even address the boxing out or positioning he doesn't seem to do well. His problem seems to be more of a lack of rebounding mindset, as though he hasn't decided to be a rebounder, yet.
The problem with Bass is he has to rebound with both hands. Bass can't rebound with just one hand.Sully's a good rebounder because he uses one hand to hold off the opposing player then grabs the rebound with the other hand.
Try looking more closely at Bass when he tries to get a rebound, I'm sure you'll see he always rebounds with 2 hands.
That is a good point. Does that mean that figuratively he rebounds with one hand tied behind his back? Not good. Can it be corrected or is it related to hand size? -
Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/22/2013 12:18 AM EST
- Fierce34
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In response to KennCelt53's comment:
That is a good point. Does that mean that figuratively he rebounds with one hand tied behind his back? Not good. Can it be corrected or is it related to hand size?
It cant' be corrected.
You also notice that Bass also has no jump hook or a one-handed shot?
Or how about every time Bass dunks the ball, I've never seen Brandon Bass dunk with one hand.
Bass needs to do everything with two hands.
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Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/22/2013 7:25 AM EST
- OneOnOne
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In response to Fierce34's comment:
In response to KennCelt53's comment:
Bass doesn't seem to anticipate where the rebound is going nor is his body prepared to go get it. That doesn't even address the boxing out or positioning he doesn't seem to do well. His problem seems to be more of a lack of rebounding mindset, as though he hasn't decided to be a rebounder, yet.
The problem with Bass is he has to rebound with both hands. Bass can't rebound with just one hand.Sully's a good rebounder because he uses one hand to hold off the opposing player then grabs the rebound with the other hand.
Try looking more closely at Bass when he tries to get a rebound, I'm sure you'll see he always rebounds with 2 hands.
Sometimes you amaze me with your concepts. Not a coach in world is going to tell someone to rebound with one hand. sully is a good rebounder because he gets position. End of story. They are two different players, one knows how to rebound and one doesn't, has nothing to do with rebounding with one hand.
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Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/22/2013 7:43 AM EST
- kobeismrnba
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In response to heirplain's comment:
We are all missing the new experimental plan. A Celtic secret weapon team. The plan is to have a super fast team of 2's and 3's interchangeable and supported by a minimum number of fast 3's and 4's. The opposition having no chance of keeping up with this new basketball concept that will rule in the ensuing fast paced games that will evolve. Those fast players will be working on those leg presses and lateral drills to box out all of those slow giants that will try to thwart this new concept . Watch with diligence and wait!
LMAO. What is this secert weapon Danny underneath the opposing teams basket throwing up white towels while the opposing player shoots free throws? -
Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/22/2013 9:43 AM EST
- postal5
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You are right Fierce. Bass' small hands (or just bad hands) are a huge (no pun) problem. Not only in rebounding. How many times does he make a very nice hop into the lane to get positon for a dunk, show his strong lift as he goes up, and then loose the ball or get stripped. Sully's quick, strong hands complement his long arms to take full advantage of his fine positioning. Sully has to be the 35 minute a game rebounder when his back heals. Sully versus the Nuggets Manimal under the basket is a good show.
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Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/22/2013 10:31 AM EST
- Fierce34
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In response to OneOnOne's comment:
Sometimes you amaze me with your concepts. Not a coach in world is going to tell someone to rebound with one hand. sully is a good rebounder because he gets position. End of story. They are two different players, one knows how to rebound and one doesn't, has nothing to do with rebounding with one hand.
Seriously, do you not see Bass do everything with 2 hands?Have you seen Bass dunk with one hand?
Both Sully and Bass get position, the difference is Sully doesn't need 2 hands to grab the rebound.
You didn't see Sully put his forearm on an opposing player then grab the rebound with the other hand?
The difference if you stretch out your arms is it makes you longer, maximizes your wingspan.
But if you don't believe then show me a clip of Bass getting a rebound with one hand.
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Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/22/2013 1:52 PM EST
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But fundamentally rebounding with both hands is the proper technique. Are you saying that Bass was taught wrong by his coaches in HS, College and the Pros?
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Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/22/2013 2:11 PM EST
- jtkl
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In response to kobeismrnba's comment:
In response to heirplain's comment:
We are all missing the new experimental plan. A Celtic secret weapon team. The plan is to have a super fast team of 2's and 3's interchangeable and supported by a minimum number of fast 3's and 4's. The opposition having no chance of keeping up with this new basketball concept that will rule in the ensuing fast paced games that will evolve. Those fast players will be working on those leg presses and lateral drills to box out all of those slow giants that will try to thwart this new concept . Watch with diligence and wait!
LMAO. What is this secert weapon Danny underneath the opposing teams basket throwing up white towels while the opposing player shoots free throws?
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Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/22/2013 2:15 PM EST
- jtkl
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In response to Mployee8's comment:
But fundamentally rebounding with both hands is the proper technique. Are you saying that Bass was taught wrong by his coaches in HS, College and the Pros?
I think the over all point he is making is the Sully has fantastic hands and it give him an edge because he can corral rebounds with one hand. Not the proper technique but an edge if you can do it.Sully is also stronger than bass, which helps him hold his ground better has a big giant rear end which he uses to create space and he is someone that is good at noticng who is shooting and from where and what that means in terms of where the ball wil be when missed.
Basically Sully, has the skill set to be great on the glass. Bass doesn't. And it's not like he can just learn it because at this level, if everyone could be a great rebounder most would.
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Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/22/2013 2:40 PM EST
- Mployee8
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In response to jtkl's comment:
In response to Mployee8's comment:
But fundamentally rebounding with both hands is the proper technique. Are you saying that Bass was taught wrong by his coaches in HS, College and the Pros?
I think the over all point he is making is the Sully has fantastic hands and it give him an edge because he can corral rebounds with one hand. Not the proper technique but an edge if you can do it.Sully is also stronger than bass, which helps him hold his ground better has a big giant rear end which he uses to create space and he is someone that is good at noticng who is shooting and from where and what that means in terms of where the ball wil be when missed.
Basically Sully, has the skill set to be great on the glass. Bass doesn't. And it's not like he can just learn it because at this level, if everyone could be a great rebounder most would.
I get what he was saying ... my point is that Bass's technique is correct and Sully's is not but he is blessed with long arms, big hands and enough size/strength to hold a stationary position while rebounding one-handed. These are not common traits and Bass shouldn't be ridiculed for inferior physical traits opposed to Sully's but taught how to use his body to box out more and anticipate rebounding angles by the coaching staff to improve his stats and help the team. If he's unable to grasp those concepts are put in the effort needed then Danny overpaid to keep him. -
Re: Celtic Secret weapon
posted at 2/22/2013 7:13 PM EST
- heirplain
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In response to TommyRules' comment:
This is a fantasy.
Boston doesn't have a playmaking guard that will lead the offense.
Sorry!! I got you confused with another poster. Your comment is a valid one except I think they might be heading another direction. players at the 2 that are great at assists, shooting and that are athletic defenders can be a great force when platooned to wear down the opposition. Add some height and power at the 3..you might have something. I am talking my skeptical self into this theory believe me. Need these guys to block out and clean the glass. My personal experience tells me a 50 # difference and 5 inches can be offset by technique, IQ, athletic ability, hops and motivation in most cases but not all.