Re: Celtics, Most Talented Team in the League
posted at 11/17/2010 11:34 PM EST
In Response to Re: Celtics, Most Talented Team in the League
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtics, Most Talented Team in the League : This has to be one of the dumbest posts I've seen. Let me see, Kobe owes his first three rings to........team mates??? No, surely not! I mean Russell won his on his own like Magic,Bird,MJ etc. I didn't see those championships won solely by those players. Alas, I saw those they won with their respective teams but not the solo titles. And poor old Kobe, he too could only win his with his team mates. And then the real winning remark....Kobe without Shaq would have only 2 titles?! No, really??? OMG, extra extra read all about it! Did you ask Shaq how many he would have without Kobe or Big Shot Rob etc? Talk about state the obvious!
Posted by RUMcHale[/QUOTE]
How is that dumb? I don't get how some fans can't take any negative comments that are aimed at Bryant?
Bryant is no MIKAN, Russell, Magic, MJ or Bird. He's a classy player, but easily at a level below those guys. The media hype machine makes him out to be better than what he actually is. Although at least he has won championships unlike Lebron James.
You actually saw Russell win championships? Like, on TV at the time they were being played?
For sure, the Lakers were a dominant team because of Shaq. He had the right pieces put around him by shrewd management. However if Shaq didn't join the team, you would be able to assume that the Spurs would have been the most dominant team in the West. Bryant just didn't have the ability to lead a team deep into the finals on his own. Unlike say an Allen Iverson. Perhaps with a combination of injury to other teams and luck Bryant may have been able to do it.
Some players have the ability to lift the guys around them to great heights. And I don't believe Bryant has this ability. He can inspire his team mates during games, but he's not the type of leader that a Mikan, Russell, MJ, Magic and Bird were. Not to denigrate his ability, he's just not that type of player.
Pierce and Bryant are the same in so many respects. Each needed good players around them to win titles. No player wins a title in the NBA alone, but those guys I mentioned could take a team by the scruff of it's neck and take them to a title. Usually by their personality as much as their ability.