"Celtics Pride"???????? Not on this board... Do youngsters here know what it means???

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    I'm probably the old man posting on this forum...I was THERE the night Cowens slid all the way across the floor to grab a loose ball in the playoffs...you could see the sweat stain all across the floor.....so no one here has to lecture me about Celtics Pride... I also lived through John Y Brown and the hedious combination of Curtis "skid " Rowe and the equally sucatacious Sidney Wicks...

    Celtic's Pride? They were terrible last year, they should have moved on from KG and PP the year before and Celtic's Pride means not just getting to the playoffs to lose badly in the first round but having a REAL chance to win a championship.....that's just being a speed-bump for some other teams championship hopes.

    They'll do the right thing...if they need to get into the lottery to do it they will...personaly, I don't think they need to TRY to stink, I think they WILL stink this year. But that's just my opinion...there is nobody on this roster that is a huge difference maker all by their lonesome...not even Rondo, and certainly not the current cast of 1st and 2nd year guys...in time, yes, and certainly with talent additions they will be, but not this year, and not without new and better blood.

    Celtic's Pride is knowing they WILL get it done the right way, with planning and talent, not with unsubstantiated hope.



    anyone who knows anything knows that there was "going through the motions" this last year by our supposed stars.  stars who did not have enough gas in the tank to do heavy lifting for 35-40 mins a night and a coach not smart enough to develop solid rotations, etc. etc.


    we are a year late on dissolving the big 3.  it was over before ray left. 


    i don't think we are sentenced to tank this year.  even if you are not the greatest team in the world you can still hustle.  i would argue that the new coach, who has had a large commitment made to him is best off starting off with some younger players who are more used to college style game (old fashioned ideas of hustle, meritocracy) than just trying to shovel in the wrong mix of the wrong veterans and trying to "win now" with some bad recipe that will end up cap crippled pitino style.

     

    i like what we are doing.  i never thought the ML carr project was worth it.  there is not going to be another JBC draft deal that we get mchale AND parish out of again.  that was what's called a miracle.  start building a good system for players to play under and the rest will take care of itself. 

     

    doc rivers is another thing we should have moved on from long ago.  that 5 year extension was horrific

     
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    Take a seat Acie I watched KC and Sam Jones and Russel as a teanager My most horrible memory is watching 6'6' Don Nelson trying to guard 7'4' Alcinder.

    We tanked the year after Russell when Red was GM. Ainge gets a year just like Red .

    I'm a Red Sox fan also. I can do one or two years rather easily.

     

     
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    Tanking

     

    If you don't know what tanking is, here's the definition: Tanking is the art of professional sports teams deciding to stop giving their full effort, in hopes of increasing their positioning in a subsequent draft or for any other purpose.

     

    Not the same as rebuilding

     
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    I'm probably the old man posting on this forum...I was THERE the night Cowens slid all the way across the floor to grab a loose ball in the playoffs...you could see the sweat stain all across the floor.....so no one here has to lecture me about Celtics Pride... I also lived through John Y Brown and the hedious combination of Curtis "skid " Rowe and the equally sucatacious Sidney Wicks...

    Celtic's Pride? They were terrible last year, they should have moved on from KG and PP the year before and Celtic's Pride means not just getting to the playoffs to lose badly in the first round but having a REAL chance to win a championship.....that's just being a speed-bump for some other teams championship hopes.

    They'll do the right thing...if they need to get into the lottery to do it they will...personaly, I don't think they need to TRY to stink, I think they WILL stink this year. But that's just my opinion...there is nobody on this roster that is a huge difference maker all by their lonesome...not even Rondo, and certainly not the current cast of 1st and 2nd year guys...in time, yes, and certainly with talent additions they will be, but not this year, and not without new and better blood.

    Celtic's Pride is knowing they WILL get it done the right way, with planning and talent, not with unsubstantiated hope.

     



    anyone who knows anything knows that there was "going through the motions" this last year by our supposed stars.  stars who did not have enough gas in the tank to do heavy lifting for 35-40 mins a night and a coach not smart enough to develop solid rotations, etc. etc.

     


    we are a year late on dissolving the big 3.  it was over before ray left. 


    i don't think we are sentenced to tank this year.  even if you are not the greatest team in the world you can still hustle.  i would argue that the new coach, who has had a large commitment made to him is best off starting off with some younger players who are more used to college style game (old fashioned ideas of hustle, meritocracy) than just trying to shovel in the wrong mix of the wrong veterans and trying to "win now" with some bad recipe that will end up cap crippled pitino style.

     

    i like what we are doing.  i never thought the ML carr project was worth it.  there is not going to be another JBC draft deal that we get mchale AND parish out of again.  that was what's called a miracle.  start building a good system for players to play under and the rest will take care of itself. 

     

    doc rivers is another thing we should have moved on from long ago.  that 5 year extension was horrific



    Absolutely agree with you!

     
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    Tanking

     

    If you don't know what tanking is, here's the definition: Tanking is the art of professional sports teams deciding to stop giving their full effort, in hopes of increasing their positioning in a subsequent draft or for any other purpose.

     

    Not the same as rebuilding




    thank you.  hard to believe there is so much moral decay these days that the discernment between the two is virtually non-existent as exhibited on this board.  especially from some self proclaimed old timer fans who apparently think "tanking" is any time you're not a shoo-in for at least the ECF or more

     
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    Take a seat Acie I watched KC and Sam Jones and Russel as a teanager My most horrible memory is watching 6'6' Don Nelson trying to guard 7'4' Alcinder.

    We tanked the year after Russell when Red was GM. Ainge gets a year just like Red .

    I'm a Red Sox fan also. I can do one or two years rather easily.

     

     




    why do i have to take a seat?  because you're a moron?  when red was active in the franchise we never threw games with a top down edict.  period.  it just didn't happen.  that's what tanking is.  it's how losers think and do things.

     


    and even if you think we did that way back when- doing it now is JUST PLAIN DUMB because the "top prospects" that you draft are 19 years old and need YEARS to round into  pro ball shape both mentally and physically- they are not the solid four years of old tymey college experience studs that used to come in and put out at a high level in the NBA. 

    why?  because college coaches and athletic programs now KNOW they only have ONE year with a really good player and only 2 years with a good player, the modern college player is coddled and not driven too hard for fear that they will transfer- another factor to consider when "tanking" for a draft pick of a 19/20 y/o prima donna.

    i'd say the international talent pool, and i'm not talking melo or this other guy they just inked on the cheap, is an untapped resource by the C's.  minnesota and orlando have double double machines for centers to show for their scouting work in this arena.  we need to get down to it and do the same.



    Moron??

    What's you problem all I was saying was even Red fielded a bad team or two.

    I not forget your poor  choice of words.

     
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    Moron??

     

    What's you problem all I was saying was even Red fielded a bad team or two.

    I not forget your poor  choice of words.



    still not with it on the difference between "tanking" and "not being a dominant team"

    we should be the latter, not the former, while trying hard all the time and developing offensive schemes and young talent. 

    i'm sure when you saw nelson trying to D up kareem he wasn't trying half way- that's tanking. 

     
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    The Celtic definition of tanking is what Rondo did immediately following KP's trade to OKC.. DA should have got rid of the punk right then and there.. but both Doc and DA allowed and coddled that bad influence and created a real monster.

    The traditional way teams tank is by holding out or playing their best players less during a game. What they dont do is destroy their roster in hopes of getting a top 3 pick.. something Fierce insists is going on... such nonsense

     

     
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    The Celtic definition of tanking is what Rondo did immediately following KP's trade to OKC.. DA should have got rid of the punk right then and there.. but both Doc and DA allowed and coddled that bad influence and created a real monster.

    The traditional way teams tank is by holding out or playing their best players less during a game. What they dont do is destroy their roster in hopes of getting a top 3 pick.. something Fierce insists is going on... such nonsense

     



    Aww..Karl is thinking about Fierce again.

     
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    Moron??

     

    What's you problem all I was saying was even Red fielded a bad team or two.

    I not forget your poor  choice of words.

     



    still not with it on the difference between "tanking" and "not being a dominant team"

     

    we should be the latter, not the former, while trying hard all the time and developing offensive schemes and young talent. 

    i'm sure when you saw nelson trying to D up kareem he wasn't trying half way- that's tanking. 


    Get real and stop being stupid.

    Don Nelson tried hard and i'm sure every Celtic on the team will try hard this year,

    What's lacking is talent then and now.

    Quite simple.

     
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    To the original poster: you were one of the Laker trolls that drove Sam out of this forum. And now your are complaining there are no posters like him here??? I was convinced runrunandrun/oldschool had the smallest grey matter in this forum. After reading the first post in this thread, I'm not so sure.

    HAVE A BLESSED DAY AND THANKS FOR PLAYING.

     
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