Re: Celtics vs Knicks 04/23/13
posted at 4/23/2013 11:47 PM EDT
In response to Fierce34's comment:
In response to guyfromtex's comment:
If you think that San Antonio won all those titles just because they had Tim Duncan you would be foolish indeed. San Antonio won those titles and continues to be in the top echelon of the NBA because they draft smart, they develop their players, they sign players that contribute, they don't make foolish trades and because of all this they have depth in every position. Tim Duncan is a shell of what he used to be. You touched on exactly what I have been saying, Duncan has won with a myriad of different players. That is the San Antonio system. It's never been one man winning all of San Antonio's games. It is the combination of all of their players. Not once in the history of the NBA has a team won because of one player alone. It's never happened.
You can't be serious.
How many championships did the Spurs win from 1976 to 1998?
It was only when Duncan became a Spur that the Spurs won championships. Maybe the Admiral and POP also had something to do with it.
KG only got past the 1st round once in Minny. That was when the Wolves got Sprewell and Cassell. Both old cast offs from other teams.
When the Celts won a championship in 2008, KG wasn't even the Finals MVP. But he was the leading scorer in the play-offs that year, shooting more than 50%. He was also the team's defensive leader, and changed the culture of Boston when he arrived. Russ told KG that he would have to bring others along with him if he wanted to win, and he did. While he always scored more points at a much higher percentage than Pierce before he arrived, He let Pierce be the leading scorer in the regular season, because it was more important to him to win, and Pierce wanted that distinction. It was KG's focus on team play first that made the 2008 Celtics work. While Stats win MVPs, It was KG's team first play that made the 2008 Cs the great team that they were. In my opinion, he should have gotten his second league MVP that year, but sports writes do like stats.
The Celts won championships with Russell, Cousy, Havlicek, and Bird. But the Spurs never won a single championship, even with David Robinson, until Tim Duncan became a Spur.
One player does not win championships, just ask Michael Jordan. Tim had David, Pop and a stacked team. Tim allowed them to get over the treashold. Tim is a great player but he did not win by himself.
KG on the other hand had an old Sprewell and an old Cassel, both borderline all stars in their prime. I wonder what would have happened if KG had been drafted by San Antonio, and Tim had been drafted by Sota. Due to the success KG had playing against Timmy, my guess is that KG would have the championships and Tim would probably had a very good career with lots of acholades, but who knows?
If KG had not been injured the next year in 2009, I did like the C's chance to repeat.