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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtics vs. Lakers - Thread to end all Threads on this subject : That's what I mean, you can't backup what you say with facts because almost everything you say is according to you and not based on historical fact.
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    The celtics weren't good enough to lose to the Lakers when the Lakers won 13 of their 16 championships, true or false?

    Not based on historical fact? you don't even know what a "fact" is...

    [QUOTE] Here's a hint, no matter what you say when you see the rafters of the TD Garden you still see 17 championships by the Celtics. That's a fact! 
    Posted by Tachometrix[/QUOTE]

    And the Celtics failed to win a championship in 48 of their 65 seasons. That's a hard cold fact too...
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtics vs. Lakers - Thread to end all Threads on this subject : You must be an orphan because if you had a father he would have taught you it's not how many times you fall but how you get up from the fall.
    Posted by kybested[/QUOTE]

    You must be someone who doesn't follow sports but team records always come with W-L. Find me a standing, a league, a game, a competition, etc. that only counts the winner but no loser, and you'll win...




     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtics vs. Lakers - Thread to end all Threads on this subject : Im a big RAMS fan, but that championship was won during the cleveland days. Most folks in LA/OC didn't even know that.  Once they left LA for OC, they dropped their LA ties. Ducks and Angeles are in Anaheim in Orange County which is not LA.  Aztecs is even a greater stretch, thats San Diego!  UCLA won all those championships in the 60s and early 70s.  NCAA was totally different then.   I went to Long Beach State and as history is told, Wooden dodge the 49ers as much as possible back then.  Even UCLA ducked and dodged UNLV in the late 80s and early 90s. Im sure Boston can throw out La Crosse and Hockey titles.   Honestly I dont care what city has the most titles all together.  The bottom line is that the Celtics 17 and FAKERS 16, with 5 being in another city.  
    Posted by jdm894g[/QUOTE]

    Rams moved to LA in 1945. The 1951 champions Rams were the LA Rams, not the Cleveland Rams.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_louis_rams

    Did you follow the NASL? the LA entry was the Los Angeles Aztecs. The San Diego one was San Diego Sockers.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Aztecs

    Yep, UCLA won all those championships in the 60s and 70s. That's why I said the basketball championships of that bush league era weren't worth a nickle. The NBA became a big league only since Magic/Bird...

    Of course, who started this thread of counting championships of ALL SPORTS? Certainly not an LA fan...



     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtics vs. Lakers - Thread to end all Threads on this subject : If it's about the W-L records then clearly the Celtics dominated the Lakers as the Celtics have a 9-3 advantage in the Finals and the Celts have 153 regular season wins over the Lakers compared to the 121 wins the Lakers have over the Celtics.  You're running in circles. Why can't you wait until the Lakers overtake the Celtics in total number of championships?
    Posted by Fiercest34[/QUOTE]

    Simple, because I don't have to. The failure count is what did you in.

    In case you don't notice, W-L records weren't only about head-to-head, otherwise you can brag that the Celtics had a W-L record of 2-0 in 2010-11? They were 2-0 over the Spurs, the best record in the west, weren't they?



     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Celtics vs. Lakers - Thread to end all Threads on this subject : Does it matter what you say? I mean will the history books be altered just because a Laker troll said this and that?
    Posted by Fiercest34[/QUOTE]

    How was history book altered? Did the Celtics fail to win the championship in 48 seasons?
     
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    Who has more championships?  The Celtics or the Lakers?  Right the Celtics.  End of thread.  Whatever else you say does not matter.  Spin it any way you want.  You can't change/shorten history or facts.  The fact is the Celtics have more championships overall.  When the Lakers have more then you are more than welcome to say whatever you want but your garbage dumb non sensical facts don't mean anything. 

     
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    Oh and since you are counting college stuff now for the city of LA how about adding 9 more for the city of Boston since Boston College and Boston University have won a total of 9 NCAA Division I Hockey titles.  And take away the 2 from Anaheim that you are claiming for the city of LA.  By my calculation that brings the total for LA to 40 and the total for Boston to 44.  Nice try though.  Thanks for playing.
     
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    [QUOTE]Oh and since you are counting college stuff now for the city of LA how about adding 9 more for the city of Boston since Boston College and Boston University have won a total of 9 NCAA Division I Hockey titles.  And take away the 2 from Anaheim that you are claiming for the city of LA.  By my calculation that brings the total for LA to 40 and the total for Boston to 44.  Nice try though.  Thanks for playing.
    Posted by rampageimt23[/QUOTE]

    You know we are not just counting college sports, just the two sports with big national following. Wait until the Frozen Four can rival the Final Four in terms of ratings, then we can talk.

    Otherwise, you would have lost big time. You know John Wooden wasn't even #3 in championships in college sports? The winner is another coach in LA.

    And you take away Anaheim while counting Foxborough and Holy Cross as Boston? See, consistency is never your strong suit...


     
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    [QUOTE]Looks like the Gems/Lakers failed to win a championship in 49 of their 65 seasons.  HAHAHA!!!
    Posted by Fiercest34[/QUOTE]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_League_%28United_States%29

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Lakers

    The Lakers weren't formed in 1946-47. It was formed in 1947-48.

    "The franchise started with the 1947 purchase of a disbanded team, the Detroit Gems of the NBL. The new team began play in Minneapolis, Minnesota"

    Well, since you like to count the NBL season, then the Lakers have 17 titles (including the one in 1947-48).  It's that simple. So it's 17-48 vs 17-47. Now what do you call it?

    It's not a tie. The Lakers are leading by one-half game. Glad that you finally conceded in public...

    I am glad that you recognize the Lakers' season in the NBL, thus their first (NBL) title. Wonderful...
     
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    [QUOTE]Who has more championships?  The Celtics or the Lakers?  Right the Celtics.  End of thread.  [/QUOTE]
    That's one way to ask it, using a FACT to mislead.

    Who's more successful? a team that went 17-48 or a team that went 16-47?

    Right, it's a tie.  You can't change history or twist this fact. End of thread.



     
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    John Wooden is #33 all-time in wins on the mens side.  That is just basketball.  The UCLA volleyball coach has more wins.  So does Pat Summit.  Don Meyer is the all-time winningest coach in College basketball.  Ever heard of him, Majik?  I've met him and John Wooden (RIP).
    Wooden coached 29 years, and had a winning percentage of .804. Everyone else on the list coached at least 30 years.  Are you saying John Wooden was not a great coach, because he didn't win the most games?  Again this parallels the Jackson/Auerbach issue.  Both great coaches.  Red retired at 48 with 9.  Phil retired at 65 with 11....................think Red could have won 3 more if he stayed on that long.   They won 2 of the next 3 years after he retired.

    Goodness gracious, sakes alive, degrading the coaching accomplishments of John Wooden - shame on you, Majik!
     
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    I will say this again: why respond? Why give trolls any attention? By just ignoring their posts, especially their threads, they'll just get frustrated that no one is paying any attention to them and they'll soon tire of writing to each other and go away.
     
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    [QUOTE]No tricks, the Detroit Gems/Minny Lakers/LA Lakers failed in 49 out of 65 seasons. HAHAHA!!! 
    Posted by Fiercest34[/QUOTE]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Lakers

    "The franchise started with the 1947 purchase of a disbanded team, the Detroit Gems of the NBL. The new team began play in Minneapolis, Minnesota"

    funny you don't know what "disbanded" means. Try dictionary.com.

    Now, since you count the NBL, thus the Lakers had 17 championships.

    65-17 = 49

    Is there something in Boston's water about arithmetic skills?



     
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    [QUOTE]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Lakers#Ownerships.2C_financial_history.2C_and_fanbase Berger and Chalfen purchased the NBL's Detroit Gems for $15,000 in 1947, relocated them to Minnesota, and changed their name to the Lakers. Max Winter bought a third of the club in their early years, and sold his share to Mikan in 1954. Berger bought Mikan's share in 1956 giving him a controlling (2/3) interest. [ 211 ]  After Mikan retired, attendance plummeted and the team lost money for several seasons, leading the ownership group to put the team up for sale in 1957. [ 212 ]  
    Posted by Fiercest34[/QUOTE]

    http://www.nba.com/lakers/history/lakers_history_new.html

    Well, the official NBA site says that it started with 1947-48, not 1946-47 (Detroit Gems). Too bad the NBA is not concurring your lie...

     
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    [QUOTE]John Wooden is #33 all-time in wins on the mens side.  That is just basketball.  The UCLA volleyball coach has more wins.  So does Pat Summit.  Don Meyer is the all-time winningest coach in College basketball.  Ever heard of him, Majik?  I've met him and John Wooden (RIP). Wooden coached 29 years, and had a winning percentage of .804. Everyone else on the list coached at least 30 years.  Are you saying John Wooden was not a great coach, because he didn't win the most games?  Again this parallels the Jackson/Auerbach issue.  Both great coaches.  Red retired at 48 with 9.  Phil retired at 65 with 11....................think Red could have won 3 more if he stayed on that long.   They won 2 of the next 3 years after he retired. Goodness gracious, sakes alive, degrading the coaching accomplishments of John Wooden - shame on you, Majik!
    Posted by Red-16Russ-11[/QUOTE]

    Do you have reading comprehension problem? Obviously you do.

    I said: "You know John Wooden wasn't even #3 in championships in college sports?"

    # championships won in college:

    #1 - Al Scates (19), John McDonnell (19)

    Dan Gable had 15. So there are at least 3 people ahead of Wooden.

    Any other questions?

    Of course,  if someone is going to count BC and BU's 9 hockey championships, then Al Scates' 19 championships at UCLA would blow them away...


     
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