Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

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    Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9407652/los-angeles-clippers-focused-getting-doc-rivers-boston-celtics-making-trades-later-sources

    Interesting, could mean Bledsoe gets involved later?

     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later


    The Clippers can't currently match salaries with Boston for KG/PP at the same time unless they put Jamal Crawford in the deal, a players whose contract the Celtics 100% will not want.

    But, if the C's pick up the 15.3m option on Pierce, a paycut from this season, that coupled with KG making slightly less and Jordan/Bledsoe slightly more, could allow the teams to make a deal after July 1st.

    2 first rd picks for Doc and then Jordan, Butler and Bledsoe for KG and Pierce is fair compensation to send all 3 guys there eventually, as the league/Stern saw through right away.

     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

    Or they trade just KG, and buyout Pierce.

     
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    Good we can just do the players on draft day.

    Bledsoe, Jordan, Butler and 2 #1s is fair and is going to allow Ainge to have a ton of chips...including Rondo.

     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

    this gets more confusing as the days go.

     
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    "Bledsoe, Jordan, Butler and 2 #1s is fair and is going to allow Ainge to have a ton of chips...including Rondo."

    It['s fair to Celts fans but it's never going to happen from the Clips side. They won't give up Bledsoe, Doc wants him. 

     

         
     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

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    Good we can just do the players on draft day.

    Bledsoe, Jordan, Butler and 2 #1s is fair and is going to allow Ainge to have a ton of chips...including Rondo.



    Well as I wrote above they can't do those specific players until AFTER July 1st and after PP's option is picked up

     
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    I think Doc for the 2 1st round pics is the best deal of all the scenerios.

     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

    I think Stern puts the kaboosh on the whole deal... or only allows the KG trade OR the Doc trade but not both.  What a mess.  

     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

    Doc better hope that the Clippers are willing to part with enough to get KG or that part of the deal may fall through after he accepts the job.

    So him trying to hold onto Bledsoe may not work. If I were Ainge I would ask for Bledsoe, Jordan, Butler and 2 #1s for PP and KG. If they don't accept it then KG will retire and Doc will be in LA. LMAO!

     

     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

    How does anyone know what Doc wants on the Clippers roster.  He hasn't spoke publicly about even leaving the Celtics, let alone talk about a roster that isn't his and he's not allowed to even mention. Plus if you have Paul, why worry about Bledsoe as a sticking point.  Worry about Paul!

     
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    Clippers Managment = Snakes

     

    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 7m

    Y! Sources: Clippers refusing to offer Boston compensation for Doc Rivers, entire deal in jeopardy. http://tinyurl.com/oa32qxv 

     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

    In response to Mployee8's comment:

    Ahh ... That confirms my take of the whole thing. The Clips trade for KG was dependent upon Doc as Stern has reitterated. The Clips must compensate for Doc separately or forget it.

     

    Maybe Sterling would concede compensation to the C's if Doc reduced his salary demand of $7MM/yr for 5 yrs ... C'Mon Doc ... You gotta give up something too in order to get the deal done!



    whatever it is, I hope it gets done. I want the C's to have a more dynamic/younger core..and no Doc..he is being a fool to all these

     
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    In response to Mployee8's comment:
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    Ahh ... That confirms my take of the whole thing. The Clips trade for KG was dependent upon Doc as Stern has reitterated. The Clips must compensate for Doc separately or forget it.

     

    Maybe Sterling would concede compensation to the C's if Doc reduced his salary demand of $7MM/yr for 5 yrs ... C'Mon Doc ... You gotta give up something too in order to get the deal done!

     



    whatever it is, I hope it gets done. I want the C's to have a more dynamic/younger core..and no Doc..he is being a fool to all these

     

    [/QUOTE]


    Amen, brother.

     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

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    The Clippers can't currently match salaries with Boston for KG/PP at the same time unless they put Jamal Crawford in the deal, a players whose contract the Celtics 100% will not want.

    But, if the C's pick up the 15.3m option on Pierce, a paycut from this season, that coupled with KG making slightly less and Jordan/Bledsoe slightly more, could allow the teams to make a deal after July 1st.

    2 first rd picks for Doc and then Jordan, Butler and Bledsoe for KG and Pierce is fair compensation to send all 3 guys there eventually, as the league/Stern saw through right away.



    if that's the case, then  we have the league to thank for keeping us from getting screwed.

     
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    Lots of misinformation flying around out there. The media coverage of this entire event has been a complete embarassment and a joke! This deal is 100% DEAD. The NBA is not allowing this to happen period. The Celtics need to completely move on to plan two and focus on possibly other trade partners for KG and/or Pierce and buying out Doc because Los Angeles is not in the works.

     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

    As they say, I want the cake and to eat it too. They get Doc, KG, PP  &Terry & Lee. Give them Bass too if it swings the deal. But we want Bledsoe, Jordan & Butler & 2 draft picks. We can trade either Bledsoe for Bogut maybe or even Rondo if we can get a Cousins. In the meantime we live with Jordan, mediocre but he and Sully and, hopefully melo should pull down 25-30 rebs among them. Butler playing along with Green, although not PP, is 6'7" and ave 10 pts but 15 lifetime and could do the same with us as Paul & Griffin were looked to for the scoring.

    And the two draft picks and our own, draft the best Centers & PGs available.

     
     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

    You could see us sign Paul P for 15 million and trade him later for Jordan and Bledsoe.  The salaries match don't they?

     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

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    Lots of misinformation flying around out there. The media coverage of this entire event has been a complete embarassment and a joke! This deal is 100% DEAD. The NBA is not allowing this to happen period. The Celtics need to completely move on to plan two and focus on possibly other trade partners for KG and/or Pierce and buying out Doc because Los Angeles is not in the works.




    Want to bet?

     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

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    You could see us sign Paul P for 15 million and trade him later for Jordan and Bledsoe.  The salaries match don't they?



    Don't know, but this could be the solution!

    As you describe, PP and KG for Jordan, Bledsoe, Butler and two #1s. (not sure if that puts the Clips over the top?) 

    Doc is released from his contract and signs with the Clips with no compensation exchanged. 

     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

    In response to Eldunker's comment:

    In response to concord27's comment:

     

    You could see us sign Paul P for 15 million and trade him later for Jordan and Bledsoe.  The salaries match don't they?

     



    Don't know, but this could be the solution!

     

    As you describe, PP and KG for Jordan, Bledsoe, Butler and two #1s. (not sure if that puts the Clips over the top?) 

    Doc is released from his contract and signs with the Clips with no compensation exchanged. 



    Nothing with Pierce and KG combined can be done until after July 1st when his option is picked up and he and KG have a trade value of 26.8 million and Jordan/Bledsoe's salries are at 13.6 million. Right now KG and Pierce have a combined value of 28.3 million and Jordan/Bledsoe 12.2, meaning there is no way to make the cash work unless the C's take Butler AND Jamal Crawford, which is not going to happen.

     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later


    How it could/should get done now:

    1. Boston releases Rivers for ONE 1st rd pick (2014), pretty much what the Nuggets offered but were turned down on 10 days ago, thus establishing that as Rivers value

    2. After July 1st, if the C's still have Pierce and the Clippers Bledsoe, (both teams should investigate possible trades of these guys with other teams at the draft) then the trade can be Pierce and KG for Jordan, Butler, Bledsoe and a '16 1st rd pick.

    That is fair value and substantially changed and removed from the Rivers transaction that the league shouldn't be inclined to block it.

     
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    Re: Clippers going to just try to get Doc, worry about KG/PP later

    FUBAR
    If you die in an elevator, be sure to push the UP button

     

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