Clippers pull out of CP3 trade talks...

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    Clippers pull out of CP3 trade talks...

    Per Yahoo sports. Hornets want too much. Will Celts try again? Thoughts? Go Celtics, Go Danny!
     
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    i dont think its worth it to throw everything but the kitchen sink at N.O. for a one year rental of a player who doesnt even want to play here, i guess if it happens i cant complain...but i hope it works
     
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    [QUOTE]Per Yahoo sports. Hornets want too much. Will Celts try again? Thoughts? Go Celtics, Go Danny!
    Posted by MikeRizzuto[/QUOTE]

    Go Danny.... GO!!!

    Pud
     
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     What do you guys think the Clips would give us for Rondo? Would they do Gordan and a #1? Would they throw in Bledsoe?
     
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    I would revisit it on one condition, the same condition Paul apparently agreed to in the Clippers deal.

    That condition is that he would "opt in" for one more year which would guarantee him being with the Celtics this season and next.  Then, all bets are off.  That would give the Celtics the offseason to make major pickups to surround him.

    If Paul signed on today for this season and next season, I'd do it.  The only offer I'd make is for Rondo, Jeff Green and our 1st round pick from the Clippers.  That's it.  Take it or leave it.
     
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    The NBA wants a lot, I thought Gordon, Aminu and the unprotected 1st round pick should do it.

    Cs will always be in the hunt.
     
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    Paul's list of suitors is growing short, especially since he seems to be trying to steer the trade to a venue of his liking by saying he wants to hit FA or go to NY.  That, plus NO is tying to extract as much talent elsewhere so they don't have to resort to a deal with Boston, because it's pretty clear they aren't big Rondo fans down there.  I wouldn't be surprised if DA make one last run at him anyway. 
     
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    NOLA is a just black hole for deals, so it's time to move on. Dell Demps will just take our trade options again and try to better them against other teams and then NBA will shoot down any potential deals in the end anyway. Unfort DA wasted way too much of our time and assets trying to deal with that dysfuctional FO.
     
    Adrian Wojnarowski
    Prominent agent: NBA has rendered Hornets front office "inoperable" and has given up doing even minor signings with them now.
     
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    This is one of the most interesting off court situations in the NBA I can remember.  The NBA are creating a rod for their own back
     
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    [QUOTE]NOLA is a just black hole for deals, so it's time to move on. Dell Demps will just take our trade options again and try to better them against other teams and then NBA will shoot down any potential deals in the end anyway. Unfort DA wasted way too much of our time and assets trying to deal with that dysfuctional FO.   @WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski Prominent agent: NBA has rendered Hornets front office "inoperable" and has given up doing even minor signings with them now.
    Posted by wfdog[/QUOTE]

    Black hole ... yes... but sooner or later, NOLA will make a deal to move CP3.

    You can't blame them for trying to get whatever they can for their only major asset, CPaul. That franchise needs as much as it can get to survive.

    Rondo, Green and a draft pick might get it done. Cs have little to lose.

    It would be great to finally see the Big Three get a chance to play with an offensively-capable PG.

    Could be the Fountain of Youth for their old bones.

    Pud
     
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    Pud,
    If you take in the fact the draft choices don't have finished deals, that Bass has not reported to practice yet. That Rondo is out with a "sprained ankle" and Green is not practicing you could make a case that everything is on hold until this Paul thing is resolved.
     
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    Pauls staying a hornet for a while.  ESPN is saying that they think someones trying to buy the Hornets and possibly thinks they can convice him to resign next year. 

    Just boussards theory.
     
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    I cannot believe that they could think he would stay.  Impossible.
     
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    [QUOTE]Pud, If you take in the fact the draft choices don't have finished deals, that Bass has not reported to practice yet. That Rondo is out with a "sprained ankle" and Green is not practicing you could make a case that everything is on hold until this Paul thing is resolved.
    Posted by concord27[/QUOTE]

    The plot thickens!

    Kudos to Washburn for recent column in the Globe below.

    Pud

    WALTHAM - There definitely needs to be a long, soul-cleansing conversation between Danny Ainge and Rajon Rondo today before the Celtics begin training camp for what Ainge hopes will be one final championship season for his veteran core.

    Rondo has been at the team’s practice facility all week, working out as if everything were normal, while Ainge was conjuring up trade scenarios to send him to New Orleans for Chris Paul, like a desperate gambler making one last roll of the dice before crapping out.

    In a press conference eight days ago, Ainge said he was not trying to trade Rondo, but a Hornets source said this week that the Celtics were more than willing to move the two-time All-Star point guard for the brilliant Paul, who has an opt-out contract clause at season’s end. The Lakers tried to acquire Paul yesterday, but the deal was nixed by the NBA.

    Rondo has not spoken to the media since the trade rumors surfaced, but if there is anything that has become clear during his five years in Boston, it’s his sensitivity. Despite brash confidence that has been known to anger opponents, Rondo revels in his insecurity. He remains that unorthodox guard from Kentucky who was begged to stay in school after his sophomore season.

    He is the guard few believed was mature and savvy enough lead the Big Three to an NBA title, which he did in 2008. He remains a player who privately pouts over criticism and refuses to acknowledge his glaring weaknesses.

    Ainge is going to have to conduct damage control over the next few weeks, because Rondo is going to view him with a crooked eye, wondering what trade scenario is next. Rondo for Stephen Curry? Rondo for Brandon Jennings? Rondo for Jason Kidd?

    None of those deals are happening, but Rondo has to enter camp today with a soaring level of doubt as to whether the Celtics truly trust his floor leadership.

    A source close to Rondo said last night that the guard would respond positively if the Lakers land Paul, relieved that he is staying in Boston and able to concentrate on establishing himself as an elite point guard.

    His stock has unquestionably depreciated in the past few months. Being torched by Derrick Rose in one-on-one matchups, showing an undependable jumper, missing free throws, and adopting a mercurial and aloof attitude has brought him his share of detractors locally and around the league.

    Perhaps this will serve as an opportunity for Rondo to mute the criticism and reemerge as the franchise cornerstone that could lead the Celtics into their next dominant stretch.

    Ainge tried desperately to make a run at this season’s title by choosing one year of Paul and more than $20 million in salary cap space next summer over Rondo and the current Big Three.

    That has to be considered an insult, especially since Rondo does not have a friendly relationship with Paul after the two nearly came to blows in a November 2009 game at TD Garden.

    One negative about being a free-wheeling, maverick general manager is the repercussions when the daring moves don’t come to fruition. Ainge also dangled Jeff Green in a potential deal for Paul and two first-round picks, something that could help the Celtics rebuild in coming years.

    The reality is not so cloudy, however. Rondo can control a game without shooting or dominating the ball. That is an extremely rare ability. By keeping Rondo, the Celtics won’t sacrifice their future for the sake of today.

    So after he scrambles to fill his roster, decides what to do with Green and Glen Davis, and acquires another productive big man, Ainge needs to address the mental state of his point guard. The “you know we love you, man’’ approach will translate as insincere and disrespectful.

    Rondo was crushed by last season’s Kendrick Perkins trade, and his play reflected that. When circumstances are uncertain and criticism heavy, Rondo tends to mentally check out, and that has to change. There are times when he has such a mastery of the game that he appears to challenge himself mentally by creating adversity to overcome.

    This is true adversity for Rondo. He has been doubted, not by opponents or those NBA observers who fault his offensive skills, free throw shooting, and defensive lapses, but by his own organization.

    If anything, Rondo has learned the past few weeks that the NBA is a cruel business, and scrutiny is as prevalent as alley-oop dunks and body art. It may be time for him to swallow his pride, focus on this season, and convince the disbelievers with a career season. A little chat with Ainge should help that process.

    Gary Washburn can be reached at gwashburn@globe.com.


     
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    [QUOTE]Find a center instead!
    Posted by Kirk6[/QUOTE]

    CP is great, BUT with or w/o him we need a damn cebter!
     
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    Wow, Clipps just put a bid on Billups! I wonder if this means that they are officially out of the CP3 sweepstakes? That might leave LAL & C's as legit trade contenders.
     
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    washburn, rondo needs to learn to shoot free throws first
    and three pointers second, if he doesnt, he will never be an elite NBA guard.Everything else comes naturally for him...
     
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    I do not think cp is worth Rondo our rookies and draft choices.
     
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    [QUOTE]Find a center instead!  What center ?  We do have the 3 mil.
    Posted by Kirk6[/QUOTE]
     

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