Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:09 AM EST
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In Response to Re: C's Very Close to getting David West???? : I don't think the C's will part with Ray yet unless they land J. Crawford. Wonder if he could be had for the MLE .... I still think it will be 1-4-1 .... KG for DH unless LA gets crazy then Turk may be necessary ... Would you prefer Turk or Green for this seasons run? This craziness is great for the C's ... steal some decent players cheap & short who are looking for a bigger deal next season and a chance at a trophy this. Can't hurt for DH to see how motivated the C's really are at winning either ... David West could help inspire DH as well.
Posted by Mployee8
Magic allowed DH's agent to talk to Nets.
CP3 will go to the Lakers, Gasol to the Rockets, and Odom to NO.
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:09 AM EST
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Let's hope Garnett and Allen get sent to Orlando for Howard and Arenas. Then sign Rip Hamilton for the $3 million veteran exception and Delonte West for the veteran's minimum.
C Howard, Wilcox, Stiemsma
PF West, Bass, Johnson
SF Pierce, Daniels
PG Rondo, Dooling, Bradley
SG Hamilton, Arenas, West, Moore
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:12 AM EST
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CP3 will go to the Lakers, Gasol to the Rockets, and Odom to NO.
How would that be any different than the previous permutation that got vetoed?
I actually want Chris Paul to get traded to the Lakers for all their bigman depth, but only if Dwight Howard goes somewhere else!
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:13 AM EST
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In Response to Re: C's Very Close to getting David West???? : Thought the C's used a trade exception to get Dooling?
Posted by wfdog
Not sure ... this is all I found:
/> Dooling, 31, and a protected second-round draft pick were acquired from the
Milwaukee Bucks in exchange for the draft rights to Albert Miralles which were obtained Aug. 3, 2005, when the Celtics traded Antoine Walker to the
Miami Heat in a five- team trade.
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:15 AM EST
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Let's hope Garnett and Allen get sent to Orlando for Howard and Arenas. Then sign Rip Hamilton for the $3 million veteran exception and Delonte West for the veteran's minimum. C Howard, Wilcox, Stiemsma PF West, Bass, Johnson SF Pierce, Daniels PG Rondo, Dooling, Bradley SG Hamilton, Arenas, West, Moore
Posted by davidap
Arenas was Amnestied already ... Wake up, LOL
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:16 AM EST
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Just saw that on ESPN .... some poor communication amongst the media I guess.
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:16 AM EST
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Let's hope Garnett and Allen get sent to Orlando for Howard and Arenas. Then sign Rip Hamilton for the $3 million veteran exception and Delonte West for the veteran's minimum. C Howard, Wilcox, Stiemsma PF West, Bass, Johnson SF Pierce, Daniels PG Rondo, Dooling, Bradley SG Hamilton, Arenas, West, Moore
Posted by davidap
Report: Chicago Bulls Near Deal for Rip Hamilton
The Magic already waived Arenas, so he can no longer be part of any trade right now.
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:17 AM EST
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CP3 will go to the Lakers, Gasol to the Rockets, and Odom to NO. How would that be any different than the previous permutation that got vetoed? I actually want Chris Paul to get traded to the Lakers for all their bigman depth, but only if Dwight Howard goes somewhere else!
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The Hornets would get more picks and/or they most likely would give the Lakers a bad contract.
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:17 AM EST
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Danny's often been quoted as saying he would have traded Bird toward the end of his career.
With all the trades and rumors happening, it makes me wonder if 2011-12 is the year he blows up the Celtics
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:17 AM EST
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Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:18 AM EST
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I didn't catch that Arenas got amnestied. That's a curious move by the Magic. They have to pay him either way. I find that discouraging for the Celtics' chances of acquiring Howard. Ainge just doesn't have the assets to send to Orlando. The only way sending Howard to the Celtics would make sense from the Magic perspective is if they were satisfied with ridding themselves of all their long-term contractual obligations.
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:18 AM EST
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Danny's often been quoted as saying he would have traded Bird toward the end of his career. With all the trades and rumors happening, it makes me wonder if 2011-12 is the year he blows up the Celtics
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The problem is, apparently there is no demand for KG, Ray, or Pierce. Ha Ha
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:19 AM EST
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Danny has collected trade exceptions. Jeff Green has signed a 1-year deal making him imminently tradeable. Can Bass be traded right away? If so, the Celts are getting ready to go after Nene. The pitch is to come here and win a championship. Possibly take a little less and come over in a sign and trade. Denver has to get to minimum salary and this will work for them. Throw in a pick as well. Perhaps the numbers will work.
Also, perhaps JO is headed to Dallas in a flip from NO.
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:20 AM EST
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In Response to Re: C's Very Close to getting David West???? : Not sure ... this is all I found: /> Dooling, 31, and a protected second-round draft pick were acquired from the Milwaukee Bucks in exchange for the draft rights to Albert Miralles which were obtained Aug. 3, 2005, when the Celtics traded Antoine Walker to the Miami Heat in a five- team trade.
Posted by Mployee8
I think I saw it in the Herald too...
http://www.brewhoop.com/2011/12/8/2622524/bucks-celtics-keyon-dooling-trade...the Celtics used a trade exception to absorb his full salary without sending any salary back, wiping his salary off the Bucks' cap figure
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:22 AM EST
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Mike_Bresnahan One circus ends, another begins? From ORL source: D. Howard's agent can talk to Lakers about possible trade. Dallas, Nets also allowed. 5 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite
Posted by Fiercest34
That's very bad news for the Celtics. But what could the Lakers offer other than Bynum? Is Bynum really worth Howard? The Nets better up the ante, or even the Mavericks. Dallas is a likeable team. I wouldn't mind if the Mavericks established a dynasty. Just not the Lakers please! They're only one title behind!
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:25 AM EST
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Danny has collected trade exceptions. Jeff Green has signed a 1-year deal making him imminently tradeable. Can Bass be traded right away? If so, the Celts are getting ready to go after Nene. The pitch is to come here and win a championship. Possibly take a little less and come over in a sign and trade. Denver has to get to minimum salary and this will work for them. Throw in a pick as well. Perhaps the numbers will work.
Green is likely part of the West acquisition. Isn't the deal Green and O'Neal for West? Has this been confirmed anywhere?
I don't want any part of Nene Hilario. He's vastly overrated. I'd rather pursue Marc Gasol, if at all possible, although I'm not sure why the Grizzlies wouldn't match whatever the Celtics offer him.
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:25 AM EST
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I didn't catch that Arenas got amnestied. That's a curious move by the Magic. They have to pay him either way. I find that discouraging for the Celtics' chances of acquiring Howard. Ainge just doesn't have the assets to send to Orlando. The only way sending Howard to the Celtics would make sense from the Magic perspective is if they were satisfied with ridding themselves of all their long-term contractual obligations.
Posted by davidap
That's why it's looking like Ainge was forced to get David West.
Chances of DH ending up in Boston not looking good at this point.
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:27 AM EST
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In Response to Re: C's Very Close to getting David West???? : That's very bad news for the Celtics. But what could the Lakers offer other than Bynum? Is Bynum really worth Howard? The Nets better up the ante, or even the Mavericks. Dallas is a likeable team. I wouldn't mind if the Mavericks established a dynasty. Just not the Lakers please! They're only one title behind!
Posted by davidap
Andrew Bynum has more upside than Brook Lopez so Lakers are in the hunt.
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:28 AM EST
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I didn't catch that Arenas got amnestied. That's a curious move by the Magic. They have to pay him either way. I find that discouraging for the Celtics' chances of acquiring Howard. Ainge just doesn't have the assets to send to Orlando. The only way sending Howard to the Celtics would make sense from the Magic perspective is if they were satisfied with ridding themselves of all their long-term contractual obligations.
Posted by davidap
That's our trump card over the Lakers ... LA can't cover both DH & Turkoglu but we can ...
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:29 AM EST
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Boston Herald says Danny tried for West but failed, what gives?
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Link?
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:31 AM EST
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Mike_Bresnahan One circus ends, another begins? From ORL source: D. Howard's agent can talk to Lakers about possible trade. Dallas, Nets also allowed. 5 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite
Posted by Fiercest34
I wonder if Danny's working with Orlando's FO while DH talks ... I'll bet Danny told Orlando not to make public their interest so the Lakers can't rip us off again.
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:32 AM EST
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No CP3 and no DH for us. Guess we'll have to build through the draft.
It looks like the Celts will make one last run at banner 18 this season then start rebuilding next season.
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:32 AM EST
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If true then that would reduce our TE available by a like amount.
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:32 AM EST
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David West is a good complementary piece, he's not someone who puts a team over the top. Ainge needs to do more if the Celtics are going to be a credible threat for the NBA title, or at least find a way to prevent the Lakers from acquiring Howard. If I were Ainge, and I know I can't add Howard for my own team, I'd try to steer him to a third club by forcing my way into the trade. Perhaps that's what he's attempting to do now by negotiating with both the Hornets (Paul's team) and Magic (Howard's team). Could the Celtics possibly send something to the Nets (the least threatening potential Howard destination) to help them land him? Getting him to Brooklyn/New Jersey is almost as good as getting him here. The goal should be to keep him out of LA.
Re: C's Very Close to getting David West????
posted at 12/10/2011 1:34 AM EST
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No CP3 and no DH for us. Guess we'll have to build through the draft. It looks like the Celts will make one last run at banner 18 this season then start rebuilding next season.
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With Wilcox and a D-League center?
