Dirk and Jason Terry won't be enough. Berea and Peja are going to be such defensive liabilities that I'm not sure they will have much of an opportunity to contribute as in previous series.
Dirk is playing as well as Lebron but his points are NOT going to come as easy in the Finals. He is really going to have to work to get his. I doubt very seriously you will see Dirk dropping 40 against Miami. The Heat have the players who can give Dirk trouble. Bosh always plays him tough. Lebron is very capable of playing him too. Then you add Haslem who is a tough veteran defender who knows he will have help once Dirk makes a move. And then finally, Joel Anthony might play some minutes on him too. That can wear a player down!
I don't think Dirk has seen a defense as stifling as Miami's. Miami tends to make things tough on the best offensive threats (see D Rose). I just don't think Dirk will be as effective against the many defenders that Miami plans to throw at him. And if Dirk is unable to do what he's done thus far, that will make thing tougher on everybody else and I'm not sure they will step up.
Guys like Barea and Peja won't have the space to do what they did against LA and OKC, teams not known for defense.
Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
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Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/27/2011 3:32 PM EDT
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Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/27/2011 3:37 PM EDT
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The Heat are like the Lakers and don't have any pgs who will be hard for Barea to guard.
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Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/27/2011 3:48 PM EDT
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Dallas has too much firepower IMO. If LeBron covers Dirk, Dirk will shoot over him all day. Who is going to cover Marion then? Bosh? I don't think so.
Kidd and Barea are going to give Miami fits. Kidd is much smarter and crarftier than Rondo and Rose.
If the Mavs put Barea, Terry, Peja, Marion and Dirk on the court, it's going to create some serious problems for the Heat. -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/27/2011 4:07 PM EDT
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BiasLewis, are you serious? Miami will counter with Bosh, Wade, Lebron, Haslem and Miller. Major advantage Miami! The lineup you propose has very little defense (no interior defense vs a team that attacks the rim like Miami, no way) and NO REBOUNDING. Who will Berea guard? Who will Terry guard? Who will Dirk guard? Lebron will check Dirk "sometimes" but guarding Dirk will be by committee. Bosh will be checking Dirk most times, which he's quite capable of doing. Dirk aint dropping 40 on Miami. But keep this in mind too, Dirk "aint no defensive wiz either" so Dirk will have to guard Bosh.
Kidd is much smarter and craftier but that only takes you so far. Bottom line, Wade will have his way against Kidd. Wade offense is far superior that the smarts and craftiness of Kidd.
But the main reason is TEAM DEFENSE. Dallas has not seen team defense played the way Miami plays it. Nor, has Dallas seen the athletes Miami has. Durant, Westbrook and Harden got what they wanted when they wanted. They were just too experienced and made way too many mistakes down the stretch -- and Dirk took over. That won't happen against Miami.
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Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/27/2011 4:20 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!:In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously! : Thanks for bringing up those stats. I can't even watch his games anymore, it makes me so mad. He takes at least three steps without dribbling everytime he touches the ball.
Posted by Kirk6
I cannot watch him play. I liked Wade that time he led them to a ring, but that was a long time ago. I might watch to see Dirk. I like his game. One of the few players in the NBA that I enjoy. I guess I'm not a basketball fan, just a Celts fan. -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/27/2011 5:06 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!:BiasLewis, are you serious? Miami will counter with Bosh, Wade, Lebron, Haslem and Miller. Major advantage Miami! The lineup you propose has very little defense (no interior defense vs a team that attacks the rim like Miami, no way) and NO REBOUNDING. Who will Berea guard? Who will Terry guard? Who will Dirk guard? Lebron will check Dirk "sometimes" but guarding Dirk will be by committee. Bosh will be checking Dirk most times, which he's quite capable of doing. Dirk aint dropping 40 on Miami. But keep this in mind too, Dirk "aint no defensive wiz either" so Dirk will have to guard Bosh. Kidd is much smarter and craftier but that only takes you so far. Bottom line, Wade will have his way against Kidd. Wade offense is far superior that the smarts and craftiness of Kidd. But the main reason is TEAM DEFENSE. Dallas has not seen team defense played the way Miami plays it. Nor, has Dallas seen the athletes Miami has. Durant, Westbrook and Harden got what they wanted when they wanted. They were just too experienced and made way too many mistakes down the stretch -- and Dirk took over. That won't happen against Miami. FUNNY THING IS -- I hope Dallas wins but, realistically, Miami is a beast right now.
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Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/27/2011 9:19 PM EDT
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I have Dallas winning in 6.Miami has had a lot of heroics from Lebron. Dallas has had a lot of heroics, too, but from a wider variety of players. So, I am with Bias - Miami will be able to stop some of the Mavs but at some point, they will have a player just go off on Bibby and Chalmers. Between Terry, Berea, and Peja, Dallas has more weapons outside of the starters that will give Miami fits. Miami has GREAT D, but Dallas has a lot of weapons to counteract the great D.In addition, Chandler is like Noah but more offensively talented. I think he will give Dallas a better presence inside than the Bulls had and is better than Anthony.But in the end, the series will come down to two things: (a) will Lebron keep getting all those calls and (b) whether or not Wade can step up better than he did against the Bulls. Lebron will be a beast. But, will wade be able to hit a jumper and stop losing the ball? If so, Miami looks great but if not, they won't be able to counter the better offense that Dallas has. -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/27/2011 10:55 PM EDT
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Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/28/2011 11:15 AM EDT
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I disagree. Miami beat Chicago because the DRose was the Bulls only scoring option. It didn't help the Bulls that they did not have any size in the middle. Dallas can play defense, they are loaded with shooters, and they have size in the middle. Bosh cannot stop Nowitski, who has been an absolute beast. It'll be close but Dallas will overwhelm the Heat. -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/28/2011 11:23 AM EDT
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What a great block! Is Kobe really that old?
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Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/28/2011 11:27 AM EDT
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Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/28/2011 11:42 AM EDT
- Rajon-Hondo
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Mavs in 6. Mavs own every matchup, did you sweep guys even watch The LAL or OKC series. The Mavs are playing better than anyone right and have been since the last month of the regular season.Marions defence in the clutch has been some of the best in a long long time,I never knew he had it in him. The Mavs collapse and get very physical inside and have no qualms about making this a brawl,these are not the same Mavs that got beat by the heat. The Heat are now the team of prima donnas who rely on the affection of the refs when things get physical and Carlisle is the guy to lose a player or two to suspension to send a message or worse. Wade tries his cheap shot hacking this series he may not be playing at the end of it,ask the Lakers bigs. Bynum was getting his face slapped so bad he had to hack the littlest guy on the team. The Mavs are physically and mentally tough. The only way the Heat sweep is if Sterns steps in as he has in the past. So seriously, NO they're not going to sweep. Mavs win series. -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/28/2011 11:22 PM EDT
- Mployee8
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Watch the Mavs deply a zone defense intermittently to keep Miami off balance .... -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/28/2011 11:24 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!:Watch the Mavs deply a zone defense intermittently to keep Miami off balance ....
Posted by Mployee8So the reason why you still keep posting is so that you can brag about how the Mavs will beat the Heat?You accuse me of being a Grizz fan when you yourself hopped on the Mavs bandwagon the minute the Mavs made it to the Finals!You are such a loser! -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/28/2011 11:34 PM EDT
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Dallas in 6 because it's their turn. Look at the FT differential in the first game. Very likely whoever gets that stat will go on to win the series. Look for a game where the officials are heavilly involved both ways to slow the game down. Both teams will shoot a lot of ft's, but dallas will shoot 10+ more I'm guessing.
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Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/28/2011 11:48 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!:In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously! : So the reason why you still keep posting is so that you can brag about how the Mavs will beat the Heat? You accuse me of being a Grizz fan when you yourself hopped on the Mavs bandwagon the minute the Mavs made it to the Finals! You are such a loser!
Posted by Fiercest34
I told you the Mavs looked good on paper preseason ... the Haywood days
Been banking on them or OKC to win the west for some time now. You're late to the party as usual ... -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/29/2011 12:06 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!:In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously! : I told you the Mavs looked good on paper preseason ... the Haywood days Been banking on them or OKC to win the west for some time now. You're late to the party as usual ...
Posted by Mployee8Really? Show us proof that you said the Mavs looked good on paper in preseason. We just can't take your word for it. After all, you're a person that doesn't honor the bets he makes. So why should we believe that you said the Mavs looked good on paper in preseason? -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/29/2011 12:22 AM EDT
- Fiercest34
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Mployee8, you're from Dallas that's why you know a lot about the Mavs and you sometimes spend your time on www.spurstalk.com.I will say this much ... the talk on here of Dallas matching any offer for Haywood and retaining him with their Bird Rights my be finally over when one reads this Dallas News sports report regarding their options at center - no mention of Haywood any longer as reality sets in:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/070710dnspomavsjermaineoneal.1b2455e.htmlRe: Brendan Haywood Celts Best Option
posted at 7/7/2010 6:58 PM EDTI will say this much ... the talk on here of Dallas matching any offer for Haywood and retaining him with their Bird Rights my be finally over when one reads this Dallas News sports report regarding their options at center - no mention of Haywood any longer as reality sets in:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/070710dnspomavsjermaineoneal.1b2455e.html -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/29/2011 12:50 AM EDT
- Mployee8
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Yeah and I'm from NY & Boston as well as San Antonio and Dallas ... Hahaha, what a smuk you are.
" I'm not OK with 34 staying after his Perk post.... and I have made that quite clear in several posts." -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/29/2011 12:59 AM EDT
- Fiercest34
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In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!:Yeah and I'm from NY & Boston as well as San Antonio and Dallas ... Hahaha, what a smuk you are. " I'm not OK with 34 staying after his Perk post.... and I have made that quite clear in several posts."
Posted by Mployee8You're not OK with me staying on this board? Why? -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/29/2011 1:03 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!:Yeah and I'm from NY & Boston as well as San Antonio and Dallas ... Hahaha, what a smuk you are. " I'm not OK with 34 staying after his Perk post.... and I have made that quite clear in several posts."
Posted by Mployee8Fierce digging up old posts is annoying, but he's right, you're just making accusations and allegations. You say a lot of things but you have no proof to backup your case. -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/29/2011 1:06 AM EDT
- Mployee8
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In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!:In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously! : Fierce digging up old posts is annoying, but he's right, you're just making accusations and allegations. You say a lot of things but you have no proof to backup your case.
Posted by 21st
I back up most of my posts (unlike Fierce) with a link ... stop making allegations if you haven't checked on some of his absurd statements ... and why do you think he spends so much time looking for archives that are disconnected from entire threads ... keep playing the lemming 21 -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/29/2011 1:07 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!:In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously! : You're not OK with me staying on this board? Why?
Posted by Fiercest34
that's not my post ... that's another poster from the board ... you asked for proof that you promised to stop posting if Perk was traded and there it is ... from the keyboard of another poster ... what more does anyone need? -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/29/2011 1:12 AM EDT
- Fiercest34
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In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!:In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously! : that's not my post ... that's another poster from the board ... you asked for proof that you promised to stop posting if Perk was traded and there it is ... from the keyboard of another poster ... what more does anyone need?
Posted by Mployee8Oh, so that's not your post. Well, why don't you show us all the original post. After all, Mployee8, we just can't take your word for it as you're someone that doesn't honor the bets he makes. -
Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!
posted at 5/29/2011 1:21 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously!:In Response to Re: Dallas could get swept, Seriously! : that's not my post ... that's another poster from the board ... you asked for proof that you promised to stop posting if Perk was traded and there it is ... from the keyboard of another poster ... what more does anyone need?
Posted by Mployee8I don't know if you're familiar with the law but saying that you got that from another poster on this board is what is called heresay. It would really help your case if you can provide evidence. Just saying.
