Re: Danny, blow it up!!
posted at 2/23/2012 12:15 PM EST
In Response to Re: Danny, blow it up!!
[QUOTE]Fierce, we won one championship and got to within minutes in game 7 of a second championship. And most posters will agree that we lost that game 7 more because of a lack of rebounding (and questionable calls) than Rondo not scoring in the 4th quarter at the pace he scored in the 1st 3 quarters. All we did was put in House or Posey who were capable of filling their roles. Has Rondo's inability to score alot in the 4th quarter really been THAT MUCH of a factor in the Celtics success or failure over the past 6 seasons ? I really don't think it has and if you really evaluate it and remove your personal bias, you might agree that is the case. Fierce, would you agree? It's more of an issue now merely because the Big 3 cannot score and finish like they once could in the past. I mean, it really did not hamper the Celtics success when PP would drop 20 in the 4th and take us home. It did not matter when Ray would catch fire and drop 18 in the 4th, huh? But now since the Big 3 can't finish anymore, Rondo gets more of the 4th quarter blame.
Posted by Petey62[/QUOTE]
There are so many different threads dealing with the same topic...trades...so I've copied and pasted this which I posted separately under “LA’s BIG 3 better than Our BIG 3”.
Our BIG 3 need shoot 50% to have a chance these days. Ray broke the 3pt record with 7 and then 8 out of 11 in gamee 4 or 5, I forgot, but in Game 7 I wish he had saved 1-2 from the record as he couldn't buy a basket in last critical few minutes...Difference, and you said it....we got outrebounded !!! Other comments on Game 7 loss below.
I do not profess to be Sherlock Holmes here as this has been discussed ad infinitum the past few weeks as our Celtics have collapsed. Watched the Lakers-Dallas game last night won by LA and , despite Norwitzki’s 25 pts, it was LA’s big men, Gasol 24 pts/9Rebs and Bynum 19pts/14 rebs that ensured the victory. First let me say since I go back as a fan to Cousy days, I hate the Lakers, still pissed about the loss 2 years ago in 7th game blowing a 13 point lead and despite the egregious difference in foul shots 41-18, we still could have won but the difference was, and they shot 32% to our 40% and Kobe only 25%, we lost the REBOUND battle. Yup, I know Perkins was out.
Our biggest need is a big guy..6’11”…7 footer. It is not to exchange PGs . However, I would do an even up on Rondo for Monta Ellis(I live in SF & go to GS games---fans hate LA same as we do and in sports bars root for us vs LA). Would love too to get Mo Williams from Clippers for Ray Allen but don’t think they’d bite. Hate to say it but the Lakers BIG 3, Kobe, Gasol & Bynum are more valuable than our BIG 3. Although our supporting cast is better, theirs does not have to shoot as well as we do but since they out rebound teams, the biggies put in the rebound or pass it out for another shot. As they say with shot after shot, even a blind chipmunk finds an acorn after time.
So, we need get Gasol, Kaman or Gortat so using Rondo for Monta Ellis ain’t gonna do it. If Genius Danny can get D. Howard and Deron Williams, let KG go along with Rondo & Allen. I'd let PP go too but feel that passing Bird in scoring and the contribution he’s made over the years, he should retire a Celtic. Although being from LA area, maybe he wouldn’t mind finishing his days with Lakers or Clippers.