DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/1/2012 10:34 PM EST
The guy is a talent.....but clearly a head case. Has been his entire life. See his change in committment to various schools before he went to college. Now he demands a trade. Very talented (strong as bull!) player.
Stealing my own post from another thread:
Danny should trade Bradley and JON for Cousins and then use Cousins as trade material to get Howard. Wait, Cousins couldn't be traded twice, could he? So, Danny should move Bradley and JON (expiring contract) + picks in a three way deal that gets Howard to C's while Orlando gets Cousins and Sac gets a couple of players.
Cousins is a talented head case but maybe he and Bradley can be usefully packaged to get Howard to the C's?
Then, with the cap room at end of the season, convince Deron Williams to come and join his buddy Howard as shooting guard to replace Ray.
PG - Rondo
SG - DWill (Ray as backup at reduced salary)
SF - Paul (Green/Pietrus as backups)
PF - Bass (Green, maybe KG as backups)
C - Howard (Steimsma as backup)
I like the team and I especially like the transition from older guys to younger guys over the next 2 years.
Ahhhhh - we can all dream, can't we?
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/1/2012 11:27 PM EST
Interesting stuff. I'd be curious to see the demand for Cousins. I'm assuming it's pretty high, even with the fact that he's a head case.
Outside of draft picks, the Celtics really don't have all that much to offer. Avery Bradley and the Purdue kids don't have much value at this point. So now we're talking draft picks and I just don't see a way to make this work without getting a 3rd team involved.
As for Howard... This would require the Celtics to give up Rondo (whether that means he goes to Orlando or to a 3rd team). I don't see Howard re-signing with the Celtics so he'd just be a rental player. The pieces just don't add up.
If Ainge see's a guy that can grow up and be a key piece to the Celtics long term, then maybe he should find a way to bring in Cousins. Right now though, I don't see it.
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/1/2012 11:39 PM EST
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Cousin's agent says the whole thing is being exaggerated. He said "if you are that unhappy with me then why don't you just trade me?" not "I demand a trade, I don't want to be here anymore."
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/1/2012 11:45 PM EST
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I read where Cousin's agent said he didn't know anything about it.
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/1/2012 11:49 PM EST
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Heard that on NBA TV little while ago ...
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/1/2012 11:53 PM EST
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Cousin's agent says the whole thing is being exaggerated. He said "if you are that unhappy with me then why don't you just trade me?" not "I demand a trade, I don't want to be here anymore."
Posted by Mployee8
Are you nuts?
The coach asked him to stay home! That's not serious? Ugh!
DeMarcus Cousins has demanded to be traded. In the best interest of our team as we go forward, he has been directed by me, with the support of management, to stay home from the New Orleans game tonight.”
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Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 12:06 AM EST
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No knuckleheads!
Posted by Kirk6
If it will only cost us a draft pick or two, it's worth the risk, Kirk.
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 12:07 AM EST
Let's all twist one up and get nice.... I'll skip that and take a Bourbon.
Cousins is a huge talent. Doc is the father fiqure, and the Celtics the family, that he never had. It's a match made in heaven, but I don't think it's do-able.
Give me another.
Avery, Sasha, Dooling and the rooks? I don't think so. OK, Give 'em Stiemsma or Jermaine.
Please Danny, not Rondo. Nooooo!
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 12:11 AM EST
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Let's all twist one up and get nice.... I'll skip that and take a Bourbon. Cousins is a huge talent. Doc is the father fiqure, and the Celtics the family, that he never had. It's a match made in heaven, but I don't think it's do-able. Give me another. Avery, Sasha, Dooling and the rooks? I don't think so. OK, Give 'em Stiemsma or Jermaine. Please Danny, not Rondo. Nooooo!
Posted by MrJohnnyMost
The Kings will want draft picks.
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Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 12:51 AM EST
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Sorry Kirk, you don't pass up a chance at a YOUNG talent like that, epecially if they don't have to give the farm to get him.
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 1:18 AM EST
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http://twitter.com/#!/sam_amickKings coach Paul Westphal says Cousins demanded to be traded: "When a player continually, aggressively, lets it be known that he is unwilling/unable to embrace traveling in the same direction as his team, it cannot be ignored indefinitely."
Cousins' agent, John Greig, tells SI.com: "DeMarcus never demanded a trade. I'm surprised the Kings, if they believe the player wanted a trade, wouldn't have made a phone call to his representative. Maybe Westphal is just feeling the heat early this season."
Cousins told Westphal twice to trade him, as the Kings coach told media, but Kings big man's camp contends it wasn't a legitimate demand.
They contend it was responsive, as in "If you don't like me, then trade me now." Westphal-Cousins relationship obviously in dire straits.
Kings co-owner Gavin Maloof, when asked if ownership approved the move to send Cousins home, tells SI "Yeah, we back the coach."
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 1:29 AM EST
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Sorry Kirk, you don't pass up a chance at a YOUNG talent like that, epecially if they don't have to give the farm to get him.
Posted by OneOnOne
I agree. Ainge isn't afraid to make a move either. Not at all. He knows talent and will believe a strong locker room will straighten the kid out.
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 7:42 AM EST
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[QUOTE]The guy is a talent.....but clearly a head case. Has been his entire life. See his change in committment to various schools before he went to college. Now he demands a trade. Very talented (strong as bull!) player. Stealing my own post from another thread: Danny should trade Bradley and JON for Cousins and then use Cousins as trade material to get Howard. Wait, Cousins couldn't be traded twice, could he? So, Danny should move Bradley and JON (expiring contract) + picks in a three way deal that gets Howard to C's while Orlando gets Cousins and Sac gets a couple of players. Cousins is a talented head case but maybe he and Bradley can be usefully packaged to get Howard to the C's? Then, with the cap room at end of the season, convince Deron Williams to come and join his buddy Howard as shooting guard to replace Ray. PG - Rondo SG - DWill (Ray as backup at reduced salary) SF - Paul (Green/Pietrus as backups) PF - Bass (Green, maybe KG as backups) C - Howard (Steimsma as backup) I like the team and I especially like the transition from older guys to younger guys over the next 2 years. Ahhhhh - we can all dream, can't we?
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NO MAS BIGGG-BABEEEZ
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 8:23 AM EST
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Scratching my head.
In your trade proposal we lose JON (who cares) AB (who cares) and some picks (slightest concern). In return we get the best, most dominating center in the NBA still in his prime.
So, where do we sign up??
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 8:40 AM EST
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Not sure who your talking to Karlost, but I don't pay much attention to trade proposals around here. I am sure they would want picks, plus expiring contract type players. I am sure they are drooling about Avery Bradley.
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 9:14 AM EST
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Cousins would cost BOTH our 1st rd picks
AND
Johnson, Avery, Moore
There is no need to give up JO, he makes 6.2 million while Cousins makes 3.6
The above 3 kids make something like 3.3 million... which works out
I still don't think that is enough to get him.
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 9:19 AM EST
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People forget how forgiving this league is and how many other clubs would feel the same way about Cousins as we do, put him with a better coach, city, team, etc.
He is only 21 and already a strong, durable 6'11" 270 kid that gets you a 15-10 each game.
Ron Artest had Sacramento trade Peja for him, Houston trade a draft pick and young SF Donta Green for him and LA gave him the full-MLE.
Isiah Rider got multiple chances, as did Latrell Sprewell
if you have talent you are coveted
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 9:27 AM EST
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People forget how forgiving this league is and how many other clubs would feel the same way about Cousins as we do, put him with a better coach, city, team, etc. He is only 21 and already a strong, durable 6'11" 270 kid that gets you a 15-10 each game. Ron Artest had Sacramento trade Peja for him, Houston trade a draft pick and young SF Donta Green for him and LA gave him the full-MLE. Isiah Rider got multiple chances, as did Latrell Sprewell if you have talent you are coveted
Posted by rameakap
U are exactly right about talent. Every posting site for every team in the league probably have already starting their own trade threads for Cousins. Pretty sure someone would give better players than we are offering. Sac is not going to just give this kid away. I don't think anyway. Maybe we should make a pitch for McGee of Washington.
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 10:55 AM EST
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I'd like McGee, he is someone to give our cap space to this summer, although Washinton will likely match any offer around the 4/42 DeAndre Jordan got... like Cousins I don't see Washington taking the 4 best young assets we have in a trade for him
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 11:05 AM EST
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I'd like McGee, he is someone to give our cap space to this summer, although Washinton will likely match any offer around the 4/42 DeAndre Jordan got... like Cousins I don't see Washington taking the 4 best young assets we have in a trade for him
Posted by rameakap
When teams continue to lose you can't never tell what they might do. Its pretty obvious that Washington is not going to do much this year. They may be interested in a little more mature young talent. Maybe someone like Jeff Green. I don't think Lewis is the mature person they need. They are very young and need a veteran, just not a old veteran.
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 11:07 AM EST
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I'd like McGee, he is someone to give our cap space to this summer, although Washinton will likely match any offer around the 4/42 DeAndre Jordan got... like Cousins I don't see Washington taking the 4 best young assets we have in a trade for him
Posted by rameakap
Agree he would also be a good addition to the Celtics for next season.
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 11:20 AM EST
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Scratching my head. In your trade proposal we lose JON (who cares) AB (who cares) and some picks (slightest concern). In return we get the best, most dominating center in the NBA still in his prime. So, where do we sign up??
Posted by Karllost
It clearly is going to cost more than just players.....it will cost at least the better of the two draft choices, as well. The guy's stock is not as high as a 5th choice because he's a problem. So, to get something out of it, they may have to accept something less than they'd want to get some value. If necessary, we could offer BOTH first round draft choices + Wilcox or both choices or JOhnson and a first rounder (two young players for one!).
More importantly, in my post, I was actually suggesting a 3 team trade that landed Howard in Boston and Cousins in Orlando. Salary exchange issues not solved as others pointed out, but my post was suggesting a longer term plan that got Howard and then encouraged DWill to join Howard. I'm advocating a short term rental that can land DH here permanently. The sales job would be Howard playing with Rondo and Pierce and the boys this year, then knowing he's got Green joining next year and knowing he gets more money from us as we'd have his Bird rights. Add to that once he's in Boston, he gets to know the franchise (Danny, Doc, HOF players who are still around the team and motivate them, fans, the City that gets a bump rap but is a wonderful city......and maybe even a championship this year!). That's an attractive package for Howard and DWill.
Yes, I know my post was a huge long shot - but Red drafting Bird and signing him before the next draft was a long shot; Red getting Bill Russell AND KC Jones was a long shot; Danny getting KG to agree to come to the C's was a long shot; Lakers getting Gasol for such a small price was long shot.
My point is: Anything's Possibleeeeeeee! At least try it, Danny!
Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded.
posted at 1/2/2012 11:27 AM EST
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In Response to Re: DeMarcus Cousins Sent Home - wants to be traded. : Are you nuts? The coach asked him to stay home! That's not serious? Ugh! DeMarcus Cousins has demanded to be traded. In the best interest of our team as we go forward, he has been directed by me, with the support of management, to stay home from the New Orleans game tonight.”
http://www.hoopsworld.com/demarcus-cousins-demanding-a-tradePosted by Fiercest34
I agree that it is looking like he could be traded. This is definitely a serious situation when the coach doesn't want you to play and tells you to stay home.
