Re: Doc Rivers Gives the Celtics Stability
posted at 7/2/2011 7:44 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Doc Rivers Gives the Celtics Stability
[QUOTE]Here are some obervations about Doc that I've found to be true in the past few seasons. He's maybe the best out of timeout coach in the NBA, up there with Popps in SA. If you don't practice hard and take things seriously, you're not getting his trust. Nate Robinson wore his welcome out with the tomfoolery that has kept him from making a real impact in his career. He believes in the Big Three almost to a fault, which is why their relationship is as good it is. He'd rather go down with the guys he believes in than let bench guys possibly give up a lead. This is a double edged blade with older players. He's respected league-wide. When Dwight H was talking about improving his passing, he cited Doc as someone who could teach movement. Shaq also put Doc up there next to Jax, specifically for Doc's commitment to the team concept. He didn't mention riley, d'antoni, SVG, or Mike Brown in his retirement presser. Doc is gonna come at you with the realest lines when you're acting out. He's brutally honest. This doesn't always go over well with pampered players (big baby), but the real workers love him for it. In a wierd way, Doc is a father figure to these guys. As recently as a month ago, Avery Bradley was staying at Doc's house and training with him to develop better fundamentals and passing skills. You don't hear about stuff like that very often, but Doc spends a good deal of his non lock-out summers interacting with his players. A lot of people give Rivers crap for his record prior to Kev, but he made Orlando a playoff team with T-Mac and a bunch of scrubs, and he knowingly signed up for rebuilding in Boston. Not every coach gets to inherit Jordan in his prime, or Kobe and Shaq. We were loyal to Doc in the bad times, now he's loyal to the Celts. That says a lot about his character.
Posted by truth-torpedo34[/QUOTE]
You make a lot of good points, and I agree with most of your post. Doc's chemistry with the Big Three is nice, but the team would be better off if those guys were turned into Hondos, Cowens, Chiefs, and anyone else one can think of who contributed to teams long after they were in their primes. Ray would have been perfect off the bench for 25-30 minutes. Pierce 30-35. KG no more than 30. Doc's actually been pretty good keeping KG's minutes reasonable.
Doc needed to bite that bullet starting two years ago. You have to give your bench a long leash. Von Wafer was playing exceptional, but then he got hurt. I simply don't understand why he never got his job back once he healed.
Krstic was kind of weak on defense. However, he is well above average for offense, and he was trying to play defense. So was Nate. Guys like Nate and Baby were being asked too much to play out of their skill sets. They were very accomodating to Doc. It's unfortunate how those things worked out. It's also on Danny that we haven't had a real backup point guard for Rondo except for a bit of Marbury and a bit of a mediocre Carlos Arroyo.
But back to Krstic. He was our only real chance to beat Miami. He needed to play 30-40 minutes a game, especially once JO hurt his wrist. It's too easy to say Krstic is a stiff and Doc was right to bench him. Same with Von Wafer for shooting guard. He was the only true backup for Ray other than perhaps Delonte.
Once Rondo was hurt, I would have played Wafer with West. I think Wafer might have caught fire defending Wade. A lot of defense is about attitude. He was starting to show a desire to fit in defensively. Ray was never a great defender, and now that and his ball handling on the other end are big question marks. Ray would make a great microwave off the bench. That's what he is at this point, unless the other team is weak at shooting guard.
It's nice to hear Doc is tutoring Bradley. That is news that gives me a bit of hope Doc is ready to evolve as a coach.
Doc is a genius calling out plays from timeouts.