Re: Doc's take: "Very, Very Selfish"
posted at 3/26/2011 7:02 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Doc's take: "Very, Very Selfish"
In Response to Re: Doc's take: "Very, Very Selfish" : I always love it when you guys try to rewrite history and pretend like the "good old days of Bird" never had these problems. BS. Larry's team got SWEPT by an inferior Milwaukee team. They only won 3 championships. Guess what happened in the other years - we got our ashes handed to us. The only "good old days" team that had the fight to almost ALWAYS win was the 9 out of 11 years with Russell. So, stop acting like the current team is a set of bums who "don't care" while Bird's team always kept everything internal and won because they cared. BS, just total BS. Stop rewriting history. They bickered and argued and didn't work together that year and they hated Fitch publicly. This team never speaks out against Doc and they all feel bad about what's happening but haven't figured out how to fix it. Maybe they will fix it before the playoffs like they did last year and maybe they never will, but I don't believe its about "they don't care".
Posted by Celtsfan4life
Well, and I say this respectfully, you missed the point of THIS particular post, or maybe I wasn't as clear as I thought. What I said here was that the media has changed that in that it hovers over teams, athletes and every celebrity on the face of the earth. What I meant is that 25 years ago the media would not be chronicling the team's every move - including practices - the way it does now. In some ways it was better back then because the players were not under a microscope the way they are now. I've actually defended players here - particularly Rondo - because I know how much it DOES NOT HELP to be under a microscope with your entire fan base. All the bashing on these boards is not going to solve the problem. That was my point. My point was NOT that that the 80s edition was better than our current team in every way because I do not believe that at all.
But I do stand by my position that RIGHT NOW - or at least up until late last night - this team's problems were due to a lack of effort and/or care. At least in part. How else does a team including 4 all-stars and a deep bench blow a 13 point lead to a mediocre, short-handed team? Not to mention score only 15 points in said 4th quarter. And it's the second home loss in a row to an inferior team. Honestly, I have been only positive about our team up until last night. Just look at my posting history, pre-March 25. But how does this happen???
I don't believe these guys are bums. Not at all. In fact, overall I have liked them more than the team I used to follow in the 80s. They are not only great players but also exceptional men. I have always said that. This whole "Big 3 era" has been all about unselfishness, togetherness, shared sacrifice and superior character. It hurts me more than you know - actually you probably know it all too well - to see anything different from that, even if just for 2 weeks.
And yes, I am aware of how the team quit on its coach back in '83 en route to being swept by the Bucks in - what? - the second round... Very prima donna-like behavior. Obviously a lot worse than what we're dealing with here.
So please don't jump down my throat unless you know for absolute sure what I'm saying. I understand. I made assumptions about a fellow fan last night before apologizing profusely. I think we're all just beyond frustrated at how this has gone and none of us knows the WHOLE story of why... I just want to see my team recapture its heart and passion. That is what I love them for. Peace.