Dr Buss on Lakers/Celtics

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    Duke wrote:

    "I got to thinking of how to make another comparison....let's take boxing.....say you are the manager of a heavyweight prize-fighter.....I am as well......your fighter has had more championship fights.....in fewer fights, my guy has one more title...so how to determine the best fighter? ....well, I guess it boils down to whether or not they faced each other.....in that case, since my fighter beat yours 9 times in 12 fights....end of story.....what else is there to discuss at that point?"

    If you were talking about which boxer is better, of course there would be nothing more to discuss. But you are not talking about boxing or about how many times ONE individaul prize fighter has beaten another individual prize fighter. You are trying to make this "comparison" of two boxers with two basketball franchises that are both more than half a century old.

    Your argument is flawed.
     

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    Elias, I know it's not an apples to apples comparison pal.....my point is made to all the Laker fans who come over to our board and tout the Lakers as the premier franchise in league history......#2 absolutely......but Boston is #1......Hollinger cites the Lakers who have the most wins in league regular season history and a bunch of stars....but consider:

    Celtics vs. Lakers all time regular season record.................Advantage: Celtics

    Celtics vs. Lakers playoff records and winning percentage....Advantage: Celtics

    Celtics vs. Lakers Championships.....................................Advantage: Celtics

    Celtics/Lakers Finals winning percentages.........................Advantage: Celtics

    Celtic/Lakers Hall of Fame players................ ...................Advantage: Celtics

    Celtics/Lakers All time Top 50 list....................................Advantage: Celtics

    Titles won in Boston/Los Angeles....................................Advantage: Celtics

    Boston is 17-4 vs. the West in the Finals......Lakers are 16-15 vs the East....who has been more dominant in the Finals?  .....your earlier post on another thread states that the Lakers dominated the East in the '80's....5-3 is not dominant....and throughout the other decades....your team is 11-12 (6-12 counting only the LA years)......we are 9-3 vs. the Lakers and 8-1 vs. the other Western Finalists....how much more info do I need to post?

    Oh....and your two greatest coach's (Riley and Jackson) have combined for  a total of 10 titles.....Red won 9 on his own....as Coach, GM, and Chief Scout........then won several more as GM....

    .....just saying.......but I don't expect that you will change your opinion....and that's fine with me buddy.....this is like talking politics or religion......can get very interesting....I do enjoy your points/counterpoints.....you bring up many good ones my friend!
     
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    You're right, we'll just have to agree to disagree but just know, I enjoy going on this discussion board to rebut guys like you (in a friendly way of course) who, in my opinion, attempt to dimish the Lakers acheivements of the past 30 years for the futile purpose of keeping alive a time that is long past when the Celtics owned the Lakers. That time has past and has been gone for a long time. You say it still exists, I'm always going to be like a thorn in your side reminding all you Celtics fans that that ship has sailed.

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    It will be a great day for Celtics fans everywhere when Bryant retires in 3 years!
     
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    Elias, you and I are cut from the same mold buddy......we are just defending our ground.....I am not here to put down the Lakers great run these last 30+ years.....I am just defending the Celtics earlier dominance......which I was around to enjoy.....we should enjoy celebrating and debating each teams history......our history is intertwined and is the fabric of the NBA experience.....Peace my friend
     
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    It will be a great day for Celtics fans everywhere when Bryant retires in 3 years!
    Posted by BirdandCowens


    It'll be a great day for the Laker Nation when wheelchair.....oops that's right we don't care about wheelchair....he'll never go down as a great player like KB24!
     
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    Duke wrote: "I got to thinking of how to make another comparison....let's take boxing.....say you are the manager of a heavyweight prize-fighter.....I am as well......your fighter has had more championship fights.....in fewer fights, my guy has one more title...so how to determine the best fighter? ....well, I guess it boils down to whether or not they faced each other.....in that case, since my fighter beat yours 9 times in 12 fights....end of story.....what else is there to discuss at that point?" If you were talking about which boxer is better, of course there would be nothing more to discuss. But you are not talking about boxing or about how many times ONE individaul prize fighter has beaten another individual prize fighter. You are trying to make this "comparison" of two boxers with two basketball franchises that are both more than half a century old. Your argument is flawed.  
    Posted by EliasB


    This coming from the same guy who said Jerry West played in MN!
     
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    In Response to Re: Dr Buss on Lakers/Celtics:
    Elias, I know it's not an apples to apples comparison pal.....my point is made to all the Laker fans who come over to our board and tout the Lakers as the premier franchise in league history......#2 absolutely......but Boston is #1......Hollinger cites the Lakers who have the most wins in league regular season history and a bunch of stars....but consider: Celtics vs. Lakers all time regular season record.................Advantage: Celtics Celtics vs. Lakers playoff records and winning percentage....Advantage: Celtics Celtics vs. Lakers Championships.....................................Advantage: Celtics Celtics/Lakers Finals winning percentages.........................Advantage: Celtics Celtic/Lakers Hall of Fame players................ ...................Advantage: Celtics Celtics/Lakers All time Top 50 list....................................Advantage: Celtics Titles won in Boston/Los Angeles....................................Advantage: Celtics Boston is 17-4 vs. the West in the Finals......Lakers are 16-15 vs the East....who has been more dominant in the Finals?  .....your earlier post on another thread states that the Lakers dominated the East in the '80's....5-3 is not dominant....and throughout the other decades....your team is 11-12 (6-12 counting only the LA years)......we are 9-3 vs. the Lakers and 8-1 vs. the other Western Finalists....how much more info do I need to post? Oh....and your two greatest coach's (Riley and Jackson) have combined for  a total of 10 titles.....Red won 9 on his own....as Coach, GM, and Chief Scout........then won several more as GM.... .....just saying.......but I don't expect that you will change your opinion....and that's fine with me buddy.....this is like talking politics or religion......can get very interesting....I do enjoy your points/counterpoints.....you bring up many good ones my friend!
    Posted by Duke4


    Yes, consider that the Celtics were only 17-47 in championship quest, while the Lakers were 16-46,  I don't see how missing the finals would be a credit to the Celtics. But heck, when you repeat it enough time like my 8-year old, it will become true.

    So by your logic, the Celtics should be honored in the times they failed to make the finals. That's why this 17-4 and dominated the west. Do you think NBA success is only about dominating the other conference? So dominating your own conference does not count? The last I check, you have to win against BOTH conferences in order to be champs, do you realize that?

    And one thing you conveniently slip: the NBA was a big-time league since the Bird/Magic era, a bush league during the Celtic glory years. That's why the basketall world consider the latter era more important than the earlier one. Guess who's considered the best player of all-time? who Red considered as the best Celtic of all-time? Why did Russell lose out even though he blew out both Jordan/Bird in # rings?

    That's easy, because people consider the modern NBA more significant than the bush league NBA. In other words, the Lakers' 10-4 margin is much more significant than the Celtics' 13-6 margin.

    Duke, you don't really think like a mature adult. How old are you? really?
     
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    In Response to Re: Dr Buss on Lakers/Celtics : Stop stalking me kobe!
    Posted by BirdandCowens


    You love Kobe and you know it!!

    Enjoy the gif.
     
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    In Response to Re: Dr Buss on Lakers/Celtics : This coming from the same guy who said Jerry West played in MN!
    Posted by BirdandCowens


    Seriously?
     
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    In Response to Re: Dr Buss on Lakers/Celtics : Seriously?
    Posted by RUWorthy


    Very.  Alleged lakers expert Elias B, when arguing about how the lakers HAVE honored the MN teams, said, "West played in MN, and once a laker, always a laker."  Now, here's the funny part.  I called him on it (West was the first pick of the relocated franchise) and he used it AGAIN when speaking to Duke!!
    What a clown!
     
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    In Response to Re: Dr Buss on Lakers/Celtics : Very.  Alleged lakers expert Elias B, when arguing about how the lakers HAVE honored the MN teams, said, "West played in MN, and once a laker, always a laker."  Now, here's the funny part.  I called him on it (West was the first pick of the relocated franchise) and he used it AGAIN when speaking to Duke!! What a clown!
    Posted by BirdandCowens


    This from the guy who made claims that he was allegedly a teacher, but is always making posts on this forum when he should be in a classroom. A profligate liar like yourself should take your feigned outrage and stuff it. You have no room to be calling anyone out, hypocrite. You couldn't be more insignificant and petty if you tried.
     
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    In Response to Re: Dr Buss on Lakers/Celtics : Last chance sole remaining troll - stop stalking me - leave me alone - I'll even use the word please!
    Posted by BirdandCowens

     
    Oh poor you. Stalked? Yea, sure thing clown.

    Former Minneapolis Laker Tommy Hawkins and Los Angeles Lakers VP Jeanie Buss today will dedicate a $25,000 outdoor basketball court in Carroll, Iowa, donated by the Lakers to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Minneapolis NBA team's emergency airplane landing in a snow-covered cornfield in Carroll. Also attending will be co-pilot Harold Gifford of Woodbury, the Des Moines Register reports.

    Boo hoo, they don't acknowledge the Minneapolis titles enough. Idiots.
     
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    Sugar Shane Moseley- welcome to the Laker Nation!!

    http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/david_aldridge/09/13/shane.mosley/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1
     
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    In Response to Re: Dr Buss on Lakers/Celtics : Very.  Alleged lakers expert Elias B, when arguing about how the lakers HAVE honored the MN teams, said, "West played in MN, and once a laker, always a laker."  Now, here's the funny part.  I called him on it (West was the first pick of the relocated franchise) and he used it AGAIN when speaking to Duke!! What a clown!
    Posted by BirdandCowens


    That's funny. Some folks are so undereducated it's hilarious. We can all make gafs but that's a clanger. Epic fail!

    Although we can't let it be said that some people have been successful in attempting to rewrite history to suit their needs! Historical revision time kids. Sadly it's normally on a scale that's larger than Basketball.
     
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    In Response to Re: Dr Buss on Lakers/Celtics : That's funny. Some folks are so undereducated it's hilarious. We can all make gafs but that's a clanger. Epic fail! Although we can't let it be said that some people have been successful in attempting to rewrite history to suit their needs! Historical revision time kids. Sadly it's normally on a scale that's larger than Basketball.
    Posted by RUWorthy


    Having a conversation with yourself? Now that is extremely dorky.
     
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    "dorky"

    Now that's a word I haven't seen in a while.


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    "dorky" Now that's a word I haven't seen in a while.
    Posted by EliasB


    I suppose there is be a better word to describe someone having a make believe conversation with himself/herself on the Celtics board where the person kisses his/her own butt repeatedly. Dork summed it up at the time. Is this the best the Celtics fan base has to offer? Some dude playing a hermaphrodite on the board, having a fake conversation with himself? Wow!
     
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    In Response to Re: Dr Buss on Lakers/Celtics : It is impossible, of course, that Worthy and I are both telling the truth, right?  An objective lakers fan on OUR Celtics board.  What a concept. Deal with this - I do not know how to download pictures, except the ones that come with the handle.  AND, if I did, I wouldn't put a picture of a laker on there.  IF I did put a picture of a laker on there, which I would never do, it would be Magic, not Worthy.
    Posted by BirdandCowens


    Wait a minute. Are you wanting to have a conversation, or are you going to cry stalker if I respond?
     
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    In Response to Re: Dr Buss on Lakers/Celtics : When is Elias going to admit his ignorance for all to see! BTW - I think RUMcHale and give-in-to-it are the same person
    Posted by BirdandCowens


    That right there ladies and gentlemen is a classic case of projection.
     
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    Of course, you may be that complete idiot and loser bobbarcker, but I haven't quite decided yet.  And NO, I don't want to have a conversation with you!
    Posted by BirdandCowens


    Then quit responding like you want to have a conversation.
     
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    OK, keep talking to  yourself.  You have the last three posts
    Posted by BirdandCowens


    You just had the last post, now I have the last post. I think you sub-consciously want to have a conversation with me, but you are in the closet about it. First you post, then you pull the posts, then you claim I am talking to myself. Its as if you are trying to pretend your quoted posts aren't included in mine. That is is some erratic behavior you are exhibiting. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Dr Buss on Lakers/Celtics:
    In Response to Re: Dr Buss on Lakers/Celtics : That's funny. Some folks are so undereducated it's hilarious. We can all make gafs but that's a clanger. Epic fail! Although we can't let it be said that some people have been successful in attempting to rewrite history to suit their needs! Historical revision time kids. Sadly it's normally on a scale that's larger than Basketball.
    Posted by RUWorthy



    Should I wait for him to admit his error, or just keep laughing at him?
     
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    In Response to Re: Dr Buss on Lakers/Celtics : Should I wait for him to admit his error, or just keep laughing at him?
    Posted by BirdandCowens


    First you should explain why you posted responses and then pretended you didn't? That kind of erratic behavior is the same type of disingenuous behavior as someone who would have a conversation with themselves using two different identities. Are you saying you would never do anything like that? You wouldn't appear on this board under different identities, sometimes using one identity to defend the points of the other? You know you have, I know you have, most people here know you have. Time to come out of the closet crazy man.
     
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    Re: Dr Buss on Lakers/Celtics

    The Lakers are fit to celebrate their championships in whatever fashion they choose to. Same goes with the Celtics. I'm more concerned with the fact that in the last 10 years the Lakers have amassed 5 championships to the Celtics 1. If the Celtic organization does not get it's act together and looking for things to blame, the Lakers are going to go right past us and leave the celtics in their wake.
     
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