Draft Vonleh at 6, then trade Sully to the Kings for pick 8

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    Re: Draft Vonleh at 6, then trade Sully to the Kings for pick 8

    The question is, will the #8 pick be better than Sully. Not likely.

     
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    Re: Draft Vonleh at 6, then trade Sully to the Kings for pick 8

    In response to DaCeltics' comment:

    The question is, will the #8 pick be better than Sully. Not likely.



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    Aaron Gordon, if he can rebound and defend very well at the pro level (big ?) is still only a Dennis Rodman all lay-ups and defense type of player.

     
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    I know Fierce. It is a gamble is all I'm saying. Probably a good one. But if it isnt, we'll never forget trading a proven quantity for an unproven one.

     
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    Re: Draft Vonleh at 6, then trade Sully to the Kings for pick 8

    I agree with Fierce, if the Celtics move Sully it won't be to make room for Vonleh. I'd move Sully if we could pry the#1 pick from Cleveland though. Sully is a double double guy kinda like Big Al was. It would have to be a mega type deal if Sully were involved.

     
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    Re: Draft Vonleh at 6, then trade Sully to the Kings for pick 8

    I don't like trading Sully right now unless we get Kevin Love for him.......(obviously picks, etc)

    I like Vonleh, but only if he plays C on this team

    I like Gordon, and think he can work on his offense, but only if we trade Green.

     

    That having been said - my second favorite move is:

    Green and Anthony to HOU for Asik and #25  ( I realize HOU prob won't go for it, but until they have other offers, humor me)

    We package KO, 17 and 25 to SAC for #8 and Outlaw

    Draft Vonleh and Gordon

     

    OR - Rondo to LAL for Nash  (he'll retire) and #7

    Draft Vonleh, Smart and LaVine

     

    Smart/Pressey

    Bradley/LaVine

    Green/Johnson/Wallace

    Sully/Oly/Bass

    Vonleh/Anthony/Fav/Iverson

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    Re: Draft Vonleh at 6, then trade Sully to the Kings for pick 8

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    Sullinger had a .427 FG% and .269 3PT% last year. He has too many contested shots because he isn't athletic enough to play above the rim. Only 2 years left on his contract. Sell him while his stock is deceptively high and get a bigger, faster, younger, and more talented player on a 5 year rookie deal. 


     


    then trade Rondo to LA for pick 7, a 2018 1st round swap option, and a 2019 unprotected 1st rounder.


     


    rebuild around Vonleh, Smart, Gordon, Bradley, and Olynyk. 




    Neither LA or any team is not going to give two first  rounders for Rondo. 

     
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    Re: Draft Vonleh at 6, then trade Sully to the Kings for pick 8

    In response to DaCeltics' comment:

    The question is, will the #8 pick be better than Sully. Not likely.



    Have to agree with you here...Sully, when healthy, motivated and (hopefully) in shape is a very good PF. Only move him for a top three lottery pick or a true star in the league.

     
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    Re: Draft Vonleh at 6, then trade Sully to the Kings for pick 8

    In response to Fiercy's comment:

    In response to DaCeltics' comment:

     

     

    Aaron Gordon, if he can rebound and defend very well at the pro level (big ?) is still only a Dennis Rodman all lay-ups and defense type of player.

     

     



    The kid is still 18 years old.

     




    So amusing that Fiercy is now on the Gordon bandwagon.

    During the NCAA tournament Fiercy was adament that he wouldn't use a top 10 pick on Gordon and Gordon would NEVER be an all-star in this league. He was stalking, bullying and HAHAHA'ing anyone who brought up Blake Griffin and Shawn Marion as Gordon comparisons. He wanted MCDERMOTT over Gordon, Vonleh and Randle!

    I continued to say Gordon would be a top 10 pick, future Marion type player and reminded Fiercy Gordon was only 18 years old and was pulling down 18 boards in the elite 8 at an age when Griffin hadn't even played a college game yet.

    Now when people say they 'only see him as a Rodman defense/rebound type Fiercy is quick to point out he is 'only 18 years old"

    hahahahaha

     
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    Re: Draft Vonleh at 6, then trade Sully to the Kings for pick 8

    In response to hedleylamarr's comment:

    I don't like trading Sully right now unless we get Kevin Love for him.......(obviously picks, etc)

    I like Vonleh, but only if he plays C on this team

    I like Gordon, and think he can work on his offense, but only if we trade Green.

     

    That having been said - my second favorite move is:

    Green and Anthony to HOU for Asik and #25  ( I realize HOU prob won't go for it, but until they have other offers, humor me)

    We package KO, 17 and 25 to SAC for #8 and Outlaw

    Draft Vonleh and Gordon

     

    OR - Rondo to LAL for Nash  (he'll retire) and #7

    Draft Vonleh, Smart and LaVine

     

    Smart/Pressey

    Bradley/LaVine

    Green/Johnson/Wallace

    Sully/Oly/Bass

    Vonleh/Anthony/Fav/Iverson

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    "You show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Red Auerbach

    "My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." - Hedley Lamarr

    If no Bynum injury, no Gasol trade - last word!!

    Houston can't trade their 1st round pick before the draft b/c they didn't have a pick last year.

    I'm fine with:

    Green, Anthony and Faverani to Houston for Asik and their 2015 1st rd pick though.

    If we're doing a complete rebuilt and will trade Rondo to the Lakers for #7, Nash (who retires) and Kendall Marshall. 

    Draft Gordon or Vonleh, whoever the Jazz don't take, and take Smart

    C - Asik, Olynyk

    PF - Sully, Bass (Vonleh)

    SF - Green, Wallace (Gordon)

    SG - Bradley, pick #17, Smart

    PG - Marshall, Smart, Pressey

    I see Smart as eventually being more of a SG. He'd be dynamic running the point with Bradley playing SG, a couple of bulldogs on defense who will get out and run. Then he can play SG with the conservative, high TO to assist ratio pass first Marshall at the point.

    If we get Vonleh go for a SF at #17 like Warren, Early, Kyle Anderson or GRIII (I don't like Hood). If we get Gordon, who will eventually play like 60-40 SF-PF in this league, then spend pick #17 on a SG, hopefully one of Stauskas, Harris, Young or LaVine drops (probably not) but Jordan Adams and PJ Hairston look solid.

    2015 is again a lottery year, only with the chance to possibly make some free agency noise. 2015 lotto features many more big men.

     

     

     
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    Re: Draft Vonleh at 6, then trade Sully to the Kings for pick 8

    In response to mossad-did-911's comment:

    In response to CeltsFanInNH's comment:

    In response to mossad-did-911's comment:

     

     

    Sullinger had a .427 FG% and .269 3PT% last year. He has too many contested shots because he isn't athletic enough to play above the rim. Only 2 years left on his contract. Sell him while his stock is deceptively high and get a bigger, faster, younger, and more talented player on a 5 year rookie deal. 

     

     

     

    then trade Rondo to LA for pick 7, a 2018 1st round swap option, and a 2019 unprotected 1st rounder.

     

     

     

    rebuild around Vonleh, Smart, Gordon, Bradley, and Olynyk. 

     

     



    Neither LA or any team is not going to give two first  rounders for Rondo. 

     



    says who?




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    He's not worth two first round picks..he's on the last year of his deal.

     
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