Even turner to celtics

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    Also, nobody here forcing is you to listen to me.

    So I don't understand why my posts really bothers you.

     
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    C's got a $4MM TPE and a 2015 2nd rd pick (31-49 protected). Ainge could have easily signed Hump with the MLE as DC did but opted to acquire non-player assets since no Love deal has happened.


    But as Rame has said, you were wrong about Hump, Rondo, using the TPE, Turner, getting a top three pick in the lottery and Lord knows how many other lame predictions not to mention other posters ideas that you wrote off as idiotic yet Hawes is a Clipper, Turner a Celtic and Morrow a Thunder. Pretty astute managements when it comes to talent evaluation but we should listen to you?


    Hahaha!!!




    There was no need for the Celts to sign Hump using their own MLE because the Celts didn't renounce Hump.


    Celts still owned Hump's Bird rights.


    That means the Celts could have signed Hump for more than the 5.3m MLE.


     


    Also, the 2nd pick the Celts got is protected from picks 31-55.


    That means the Celts can only own the pick if the Wiz finish with a top 5 record in the whole NBA next season.


     


    The 4.3m TPE is only means something if you get something.


    If that 4.3m TPE expires then the Celts get nothing.





    The C's obviously didn't need to use more than what DC gave to Hump. What was it, $4MM?


    You said Ainge wouldn't use the $10.3MM TPE and were proven wrong on that one too.


    Hey, you aren't doing so well !!!


    And as usual you are wrong on the pick too.


    Here;


    https://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/491370495900540928" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/491370495900540928


     


    Eric PincusVerified account ‏@EricPincus


    The Washington Wizards sent a 2015 second-rounder to Boston for Kris Humphries - top-49 protected - so range of 50-60 it goes to Celts


     


    You must have tons of "I Was Wrong" threads each year ... LOL!!!


    [So far you have been wrong about Hump, Rondo, using the TPE, Turner, getting a top three pick in the lottery, staying under the cap (LOL!!!) and forfeiting use of the MLE/BAE]

     
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    The Wiz pick is protected from picks 31-55.

    Here:

    http://www1.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed" rel="nofollow">http://www1.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

    2015 second round draft pick from Washington
    Washington's 2015 2nd round pick to Boston protected for selections 31-55 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Washington's obligation to Boston will be extinguished) [Boston-Washington, 7/19/2014]

     
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    rame also confirmed that I never said Ainge will not use the 10.3m TPE.

    I proposed Lin and the Rockets' 1st rounder for the 10.3m TPE.

    rame is claiming that I stole that idea from him.

    That confirms that I never said Ainge wouldn't use the 10.3m TPE.

     
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    Things are going downhill very fast over here.  Do you guys remember that you were recently banned?

     
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    sick and tired of this bs. Why you guys can't just get along? stop acting like a bunch of kids! I mean let's just talk about basketball for Christ's sake

     
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    PS, I do think he is better overall than Green for a bad team. The main reason is that Green doesn't want the spotlight, or the double teams, he is desperate to be the third scorer.  Turner does want the spotlight, and wants to be the man, but his problem is he doesn't know how to defer if their are better players around him. He still wants the touches and shots as if he was the #1 guy even if he is the fourth or fifth option.

    Maybe he is just a pacifier for the pink hats. Like "Look guys, we got a scorer for you! (Yeah he doesn't play team basketball or defense) But just look at him score! Wow, that's fun right?"



    I look @ turner as being a possible 2nd option but definitely a 3rd that has more skills/potential than Green.

     
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    Nice to see things haven't changed here after a couple days hiatus....reminds me of my married days...YUCK!

    Also, nice to see we're cleaning up on midget basketball players...there won't be a guy under 6-7 left to be had in the entire NBA before Danny LeStrange GM gets finished....I can see it now, we'll trade 12 guys under 6-7 for 1  3rd string "5" who is 7 feet tall....oh right, we already have that market cornered too!

    FIREWORKS!!!!!

     
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    sick and tired of this bs. Why you guys can't just get along? stop acting like a bunch of kids! I mean let's just talk about basketball for Christ's sake


    + 1,000,000

    Evan Turner ? W T F ? There better be a deal down the road. Evan Turner is the last guy I want on this team literally.

     
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    Evan Turner ? W T F ? There better be a deal down the road. Evan Turner is the last guy I want on this team literally.



    Evan Turner has one of the best agents, David Falk, in pro sports.

    It would not be in Turner's best interest if he signed with Boston and the Celts have Jeff Green starting at SF.

    I think Jeff Green is good as gone.

     
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    I'd rather have Green any day.

     
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    The Cs want to be the worst shooting team in the league.

    That would be quite a feat since they ranked 28th in eFG% last season.

     

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    Evan Turner ? W T F ? There better be a deal down the road. Evan Turner is the last guy I want on this team literally.



    Evan Turner has one of the best agents, David Falk, in pro sports.

    It would not be in Turner's best interest if he signed with Boston and the Celts have Jeff Green starting at SF.

    I think Jeff Green is good as gone.



    Good luck trading him. Players with 2+ year deals who can't shoot are toxic assets.

     

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    Evan Turner ? W T F ? There better be a deal down the road. Evan Turner is the last guy I want on this team literally.



    Evan Turner has one of the best agents, David Falk, in pro sports.

    It would not be in Turner's best interest if he signed with Boston and the Celts have Jeff Green starting at SF.

    I think Jeff Green is good as gone.




    Yes it does not make sense unless Ainge has a wink and a nod with Turner and Falk that Green is going to be traded and Turner will be the starting SF with lots of playing time.  Turner is playing for less money but he wants playing time to prove himself for the next contract.  But then do we want him to be really good and wins a lot of games for us right now?  I guess it is a little bit of double edge sword.

     
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    Yes it does not make sense unless Ainge has a wink and a nod with Turner and Falk that Green is going to be traded and Turner will be the starting SF with lots of playing time.  Turner is playing for less money but he wants playing time to prove himself for the next contract.  But then do we want him to be really good and wins a lot of games for us right now?  I guess it is a little bit of double edge sword.



    It's not like Evan Turner is a young Paul Pierce.

    We've seen what Turner can do as the #1 guy in Philly, before being dealt to Indy.

    Simply put, the Sixers sucked!

     
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    Yes it does not make sense unless Ainge has a wink and a nod with Turner and Falk that Green is going to be traded and Turner will be the starting SF with lots of playing time.  Turner is playing for less money but he wants playing time to prove himself for the next contract.  But then do we want him to be really good and wins a lot of games for us right now?  I guess it is a little bit of double edge sword.



    It's not like Evan Turner is a young Paul Pierce.

    We've seen what Turner can do as the #1 guy in Philly, before being dealt to Indy.

    Simply put, the Sixers sucked!



    Yeah, overall he is a net negative on the floor. I guess he just wasn't enough of a negative for the Sixers.  But now they have Embiid, Noel, Carter-Williams, and Saric so you can't argue too much with their logic.

     
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    Evan Turner ? W T F ? There better be a deal down the road. Evan Turner is the last guy I want on this team literally.




    Evan Turner has one of the best agents, David Falk, in pro sports.


    It would not be in Turner's best interest if he signed with Boston and the Celts have Jeff Green starting at SF.


    I think Jeff Green is good as gone.





    Yes it does not make sense unless Ainge has a wink and a nod with Turner and Falk that Green is going to be traded and Turner will be the starting SF with lots of playing time.  Turner is playing for less money but he wants playing time to prove himself for the next contract.  But then do we want him to be really good and wins a lot of games for us right now?  I guess it is a little bit of double edge sword.




    If the deal is 3 years are there player or team options the 2nd and/or 3rd years?  Why would Falk the agent let him sign at a low amount if he was trying to prove himself but, has to stay 2/3 years??

     
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    I have not seen the exact deal.  I don't think it is out yet.  I suspect it will be short or with player options.

     
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    Not sure how I feel about this move yet. Need to see what else happens. On one hand, I like Turners ability to play point forward and be a playmaker as well as being a post player. He seemed to always kill the celtics when he played us. On the other hand, they gave him lots of room in philly to take lots of shots and not sure how efficient he would be in a lesser role. Right now his position is taken so I have to know what Danny's plan is before I pass judgement. Right now we are team full of different players with no real direction. Too many wings so something has to be in the works, no?

     

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    I prefer Jeff Green to Evan Turner.

     

    I understand that im in the minority on this.




    IF they both are playing to potential, I like Green too but he comes and goes too much for me. Evan, him being the lesser player seems to play with more hunger which translates to more production. Green is an enigma to me right now. I really wanted to like him too. Just think he checks out too easily and for this team, he isnt a fit cuz we arent a contender. If he never had the heart problem, I believe he helps that team w/Rondo/KG/Pierce....being the man? Not his thing.

     
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    Evan Turner has one of the best agents, David Falk, in pro sports.


     


    It would not be in Turner's best interest if he signed with Boston and the Celts have Jeff Green starting at SF.


     


    I think Jeff Green is good as gone.


     


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    Yes it does not make sense unless Ainge has a wink and a nod with Turner and Falk that Green is going to be traded and Turner will be the starting SF with lots of playing time.  Turner is playing for less money but he wants playing time to prove himself for the next contract.  But then do we want him to be really good and wins a lot of games for us right now?  I guess it is a little bit of double edge sword.


     


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    If the deal is 3 years are there player or team options the 2nd and/or 3rd years?  Why would Falk the agent let him sign at a low amount if he was trying to prove himself but, has to stay 2/3 years??


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    Falk is not only Turner's agent. He's Green's agent. as well, and Sullinger's.


    He probably has a pretty good idea of what Ainge might be thinking for all his clients. He didn't steer Turner here to be dead-ended. My guess is that he's working hard to get Green out of town and then slide Turner into Green's 9+ million slot when the cap rises.

     
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    In response to TripleOG's comment:


    In response to JamezHill's comment:


    I prefer Jeff Green to Evan Turner.


     


    I understand that im in the minority on this.





    IF they both are playing to potential, I like Green too but he comes and goes too much for me. Evan, him being the lesser player seems to play with more hunger which translates to more production. Green is an enigma to me right now. I really wanted to like him too. Just think he checks out too easily and for this team, he isnt a fit cuz we arent a contender. If he never had the heart problem, I believe he helps that team w/Rondo/KG/Pierce....being the man? Not his thing.




    Green's 'potential' isn't a true potential.


    Unless you've actually seen someone exhibit certain traits, you can't presume that he has them but is just not showing them. The traits that we see in Green are evident. He's tall, agile, jumps well, is graceful to a degree, and has learned to shoot a jump shot. No one doubts this.


    But, that Green is tall, agile, runs and jumps gracefully (as long as it's pretty much in a straight line) does not automatically and necessarily mean that he has the potential to be a great basketball player.  


    In his career he has exhibited no evidence of being attentive to detail, alert, aware, energetic, and competitive; no evidence of being a creative scorer, an even adequate ball-mover/ball handler, or a dependable rebounder and team defender. In short, he has exhibited no potential in these areas, not a glimmer.


    Sadly, his demonstrable skill set simply doesn't translate to great, winning basketball player.


    I believe Turner is a better choice going forward.

     
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    Jeff Green to Washington.


     



    Gerald Wallace, Martell Webster, Glen Rice Jr. to Detroit.


     


     


    Josh Smith and Marvin Ely to Boston.

     
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    Jeff Green to Washington

    Gerald Wallace, Martell Webster, Glen Rice Jr. to Detroit

    Josh Smith and Marvin Ely to Boston.



    Oh, my!  That looks like it would work. Josh Smith for Jeff Green. I'm not sure if there's a net gain or loss in yelling at the TV. Smith is really knuckle headed but has some fire some times.

    But it does lose that Wallace salary. Can someone smarter than I tell me if paying Smith 3M per year more than Wallace's 10M makes sense?

     
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    Oh, my!  That looks like it would work. Josh Smith for Jeff Green. I'm not sure if there's a net gain or loss in yelling at the TV. Smith is really knuckle headed but has some fire some times.

    But it does lose that Wallace salary. Can someone smarter than I tell me if paying Smith 3M per year more than Wallace's 10M makes sense?



    No, it doesn't make sense.

    Josh Smith is a PF who's going to make 13.5m per year until 2017.

    Celts already have 3 PFs, Sully, Oly, and Bass.

     
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