Everyone talks about center needs but

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    Everyone talks about center needs but

    1.. How many , of all the nba teams have even a good or great center ??  (IMO the centers now are the worst in history).


    2.  Is there any college centers that will available??


    Curious as to opinions of older and younger bb fans, as older fans have seen actual centers who could play the position .



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    Re: Everyone talks about center needs but

    resign Hump, pray Iverson and Fav get meaningful minutes, or hope for a trade

     
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    Re: Everyone talks about center needs but

    In response to romneywins' comment:

    resign Hump, pray Iverson and Fav get meaningful minutes, or hope for a trade

    is that your answer to the questions, or just a wish??


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    Re: Everyone talks about center needs but

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    colton iverson LOL i wonder how long people will be praying for him to be anything more than a guy who never made it to the league. 




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    Re: Everyone talks about center needs but

    In the '60s every team had a serviceable center:  Russell, Chamberlain, Thurmond, Beatty, Unseld, Embry, Bellamy, Reed. . . any of whom could play credibly today.

     
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    Re: Everyone talks about center needs but

    In response to Fiercy's comment:

    Greg Monroe has NEVER averaged 1 block per game his entire career.

    He's NOT a Center!

      He's not what everyones new saying is"a rim protector" but Al Jefferson isn't either. In todays NBA i think he would be an above average center.  He could turn into a 20/10 guy, what we would need is a very athletic 4 who can be the rim protector, and that's not Sully or KO.


     
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    Re: Everyone talks about center needs but

    IF the C's decide to compete next season, they can use the new Miami Heat as a barometer for what they'll be up against.  Check out this potential line-up:

    PG Chalmers (or Cole/Napier if they can't afford Chalmers

    SG  Wade

    SF Camelo

    PF LEBRON

    C Bosh

    My point is: With competition like this, who needs a traditional, rim-protecting, shot-blocking center?

     

    Of course, having a Drummond or Anthony Davis, a Patrick Ewing or a Hakeem Olujawon would be great, BUT do we have to have one?

     

     
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    You summed it up Rame....very good !


    Still believed RONDO will be traded for a big man !! I will be elated....


     

     
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    Re: Everyone talks about center needs but

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    He's not what everyones new saying is"a rim protector" but Al Jefferson isn't either. In todays NBA i think he would be an above average center.  He could turn into a 20/10 guy, what we would need is a very athletic 4 who can be the rim protector, and that's not Sully or KO.


     

     

     

    The difference is Al Jefferson has a 1.3 blocks per game career average.

     

    Remember the Detroit game, back in April, in Boston last season?

     

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    Greg Monroe was taken out with 11:41 remaining in the 4th and he never came back in even when he already had 21 points.

     

    The Pistons then rallied to beat the Celtics.

      Everyone rallied to beat the Celtics last year. I think that says more about the Celtics, than about Monroe. After all he had 21 in three quarters.  Let's say we could trade for Monroe and than trade for John Henson, monroe could be the scoring center and Henson would be the athletic shot blocking 4 we would need.

     
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    Re: Everyone talks about center needs but

    In response to rameakap's comment:

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    He's not what everyones new saying is"a rim protector" but Al Jefferson isn't either. In todays NBA i think he would be an above average center.  He could turn into a 20/10 guy, what we would need is a very athletic 4 who can be the rim protector, and that's not Sully or KO.

     

     

     

     

    The difference is Al Jefferson has a 1.3 blocks per game career average.

     

    Remember the Detroit game, back in April, in Boston last season?

     

    Here:

     

    http://espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400490019&period=4" rel="nofollow">http://espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400490019&period=4" rel="nofollow">http://espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400490019&period=4" rel="nofollow">http://espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400490019&period=4" rel="nofollow">http://espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=400490019&period=4

     

     

     

    Greg Monroe was taken out with 11:41 remaining in the 4th and he never came back in even when he already had 21 points.

     

    The Pistons then rallied to beat the Celtics.

      Everyone rallied to beat the Celtics last year. I think that says more about the Celtics, than about Monroe. After all he had 21 in three quarters.  Let's say we could trade for Monroe and than trade for John Henson, monroe could be the scoring center and Henson would be the athletic shot blocking 4 we would need.




    Are the Bucks rumored to be interested in moving Henson?

    All i have heard is that they would want to move Sanders, which is next to impossible with his 4/44 and Ilyasova, who has let it be known he desires to play elsewhere.

    Henson is a perfect example provided how you can pair an athletic/agile defensive PF with a slower/mediocre offensive center like Monroe who can put up 15-20 points and still get you 10 boards.

    It is what the Bobcats are going to do with Big Al at center and Vonleh beside him. It is what the Heat do when they move Bosh, fairlyy weak for his height and easily pushed around, to the 5 and let LeBron go wild as the most athletic 260 lb PF in the game. OKC will play guys like Adams and Collison a lot at center this year. Scorers who can board but have Ibaka beside them at PF to block shots and protect the rim. 

    The Celtics do not have guys like Henson and Ibaka to play beside Monroe. They have more Monroe players in Oly and Sully and need to do what teams like New Orleans and Portland did and move their best scorer out of the center position and get a rim protecting 7 footer like Asik and Robin Lopez.

      I was just using Henson as an example of the kind of 4 we would need if we had Monroe playing center. I don't know of any rumors of them wanting to trade Hensen, but you never know, a couple future picks may make them think about it.


     
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    Re: Everyone talks about center needs but

    In response to Number6Fan's comment:

    In the '60s every team had a serviceable center:  Russell, Chamberlain, Thurmond, Beatty, Unseld, Embry, Bellamy, Reed. . . any of whom could play credibly today.




    Only the 1950's had a worse brand of basketball than the 60's.  Big men played primarily in the paint in those early years simply because their ball  handling and shooting skills limited them to playing near the basket.  With the great ball handling and outside shooting skills that the BIG men now possess they are no longer shackled to the paint. Many of the  big men that are now listed as forwards would be All World playing center back in the 60's.

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    Re: Everyone talks about center needs but

    Many of the big men that are now listed as forwards would be All World playing center back in the 60's.

     

    hmmmmm, i remember the last playoff, Duncan played mostly center not forward

     

     
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    Re: Everyone talks about center needs but

    i would take a chance on emeka okafor...i don't think he will be asking for big money..just the kind of guy we need...if he's healthy go for it.

     
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    Re: Everyone talks about center needs but

    In response to rameakap's comment:


    How many teams in the NBA have a great center?


     


    12


     


    As long as by 'great' you mean a modern age center who is 6'10"+ plays 30+ minutes and gives you around a double-double.


     


    Here are the teams who can feel great about their center:


     


    Washington - Gortat


     


    Chicago - Noah


     


    Charlotte - Big Al


     


    Atlanta - Horford (If you call him a center)


     


    Detroit - Drummond


     


    Orlando - Vucevic


     


    Toronto - Valanciunas (should make jump from 11/9 to like a 17/11 this year)


     


    San Antonio - Duncan


     


    Houston - Howard


     


    Memphis - Gasol


     


    Minnesota - Pekovic


     


    Sacramento - Cousins


     


    How many have a good to very good center?


     


    13 


     


    Portland - Robin Lopez (great if he could score 15 a game)


     


    Brooklyn - Brook Lopez (great if ever healthy)


     


    Detroit - Monroe (great if was even above average on D, but def more C than PF)


     


    Golden State - Bogut (great if ever healthy)


     


    New Orleans - Asik (great if he could hir FT's and score 15 a game)


     


    Dallas - Chandler (great 2-3 years ago)


     


    Utah - Kanter


     


    Lakers - Pau Gasol (great 2-3 years ago)


     


    Clippers - Jordan (great if he could hit FT's and score 15 a game)


     


    Cleveland - Varejao


     


    Miami - Bosh (if you call him a center, was great 2-3 years ago)


     


    Indiana - Hibbert


     


    Denver - McGee


     


    How many teams have a below average or still unknown situation at center?


     


    6


     


    Boston - Faverani is a backup, Olynyk can't be projected (yet) as more than a 6th man who swings between PF and C


     


    Philly - We have yet to see Noel play and Embiid will be out a year


     


    Milwaukee - Pachulia is like a better Fav, only on the downside of his career. Sanders can be in the good to very good group if he gets his head on straight


     


    Oklahoma City - Perk has been in serious decline for 2-3 years but Adams should quickly bump them up into having a good/very good center, we just don't know yet. 


     


    Phoenix - Len could be very good soon. Plumlee was actually an 8/8 guy in 24 minutes. No reason they won't be in the good/very good group this year.


     


    Knicks - Amare sometimes plays the 5, horribly overpaid and washed up, Dalembert is old but can still defend a bit


     


    I would trade Fav/Oly for every duo I just mentioned on the other four teams with poor center situations except for Milawaukee and New York. Therefore, the Celtics are the third worst team at the center position in the NBA. At least until the Lakers let Gasol walk.


     


     


     


     




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    Re: Everyone talks about center needs but

    "You have made over 4,000 posts since being banned in January."

    Why? what happened to  Mr. Fungus while I'm gone working hard outside the country? They banned him?  For what?  Tell me something that I missed........

     

     
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