Fernandez to Boston more likely

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    Where is he going to get minutes less long touches with second unit consisting of Nate, Bradley, Wafer, Harangody, BBD,and Shaq/JON?
     
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    More to the point where would Robinson,Quis, Haragody, and Wafer get their touches behind Fernandez and Bradley.

    Robinson and Quis will get some time, but Luke and Von would  be seeing a lot of DNP coaches decision
     
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    [QUOTE]we should not even be discussing trading draft picks for anyone short of a franchise player at this point. we are going to need all our draft picks and need to use them wisely. we will be in bigtime rebuilding mode 2 years from now and will need all the picks we can get. i wish we could get walker back. he'd be a decent backup for PP. my problem with getting fernandez is that he's not a 3, he's a 2. we need a backup 3 in a bad way.
    Posted by kaktug[/QUOTE]

    we should not even be discussing trading draft picks for anyone short of a franchise player

    Why not? Maybe he ends up as a better backup to PP and RA than Wafer. If that happens Danny could easily trade Wafer etal after the trade restriction. Secondly, given the C's current roster, we shouldn't have a very good 1st round pick next year or need it for that matter. With everyone due back in 2011-2012' with the exception of Davis, Daniels, Perkins & Erden, of which Davis & Perkins would most likely be resigned barring some sort of trade, then we'd only have 2 spots to fill with a MLE signing and the BAE available. So I don't put much value on next years #1 pick and would surely part with it and Laf/Gaf for a guy that could end up as RA's long term replacement at very cheap $ ... just saying.

    i wish we could get walker back. he'd be a decent backup for PP

    We probably cold but be careful what you wish for ... nobody has seen what he can do on the BB Court (as opposed to District Court) for awhile. If he were the AW of old or even recent past he could be a nice backup but why bother taking the risk (that said, Danny is a risk taker) if you don't have to? Jarvis Hayes will do nicely.

    fernandez is that he's not a 3, he's a 2. we need a backup 3 in a bad way

    Tru Dat! But we don't necessarily have to have that wing right away. If we can get Rudy now in time for training camp we may be pleasantly surprised ... who knows, maybe he can play 2 & 3? If not, as I said, we can always make another move. What have we got to lose giving up a draft pick and cash or matching salary via Laf/Gaf ???

    JUST DO IT!
     
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    [QUOTE]More to the point where would Robinson,Quis, Haragody, and Wafer get their touches behind Fernandez and Bradley. Robinson and Quis will get some time, but Luke and Von would  be seeing a lot of DNP coaches decision
    Posted by croc[/QUOTE]

    Hahaha .... so true!
     
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    Would Portland take Von Wafer? That's as far as I would go.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Fernandez to Boston more likely : Can't trade Wafer until Dec. 15.  Back in 2008-09 Von Wafer was as good, if not better, than Fernandez. 
    Posted by Fierce34[/QUOTE]

    Isn't that what I said?

    Danny could easily trade Wafer etal after the trade restriction.

    Wafer was good for one year ... po'd the coaches his 2nd year and goes to Europe and quits. Red Flag?

    Let's give him the benefit of doubt and a chance to redeem himself but to say he was much better than Rudy is a stretch by any imagination don't ya think given Rudy's prior success in Europe?

    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Rudy-Fernandez-22/

    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Von-Wafer-179/


     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Fernandez to Boston more likely : we should not even be discussing trading draft picks for anyone short of a franchise player Why not? Maybe he ends up as a better backup to PP and RA than Wafer. If that happens Danny could easily trade Wafer etal after the trade restriction. Secondly, given the C's current roster, we shouldn't have a very good 1st round pick next year or need it for that matter. With everyone due back in 2011-2012' with the exception of Davis, Daniels, Perkins & Erden, of which Davis & Perkins would most likely be resigned barring some sort of trade, then we'd only have 2 spots to fill with a MLE signing and the BAE available. So I don't put much value on next years #1 pick and would surely part with it and Laf/Gaf for a guy that could end up as RA's long term replacement at very cheap $ ... just saying. i wish we could get walker back. he'd be a decent backup for PP We probably cold but be careful what you wish for ... nobody has seen what he can do on the BB Court (as opposed to District Court) for awhile. If he were the AW of old or even recent past he could be a nice backup but why bother taking the risk (that said, Danny is a risk taker) if you don't have to? Jarvis Hayes will do nicely. fernandez is that he's not a 3, he's a 2. we need a backup 3 in a bad way Tru Dat! But we don't necessarily have to have that wing right away. If we can get Rudy now in time for training camp we may be pleasantly surprised ... who knows, maybe he can play 2 & 3? If not, as I said, we can always make another move. What have we got to lose giving up a draft pick and cash or matching salary via Laf/Gaf ??? JUST DO IT!
    Posted by Mployee8[/QUOTE]

    I agree, but I think he meant Billy Walker, not Antoine!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Fernandez to Boston more likely : I agree, but I think he meant Billy Walker, not Antoine!
    Posted by hedleylamarr[/QUOTE]

    Hahaha... my bad, I forget about Billy! Still a little raw but starting to come into his own. Maybe a little too untested just yet to back up PP especially in the playoffs but then again one can say the same about Wafer and to a lesser degree Fernandez.
     
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    rudy is better than wafer daniels and walker combined.
     
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    [QUOTE]Fernandez's agent says he will not return to Portland. Usually I am against this sort of posturing by a handsomely paid athlete, but it is clear that he never fit in well there. He was misutilized. Hopefully this pushes forward a trade.
    Posted by existentialparquet[/QUOTE]

    I wonder if he'd be happy sitting on the bench here, though...

    He's unhappy because he thinks he deserves more than 23.2 minutes per game in Portland.  I don't think he'd get too much more time here, even if he would be the primary backup to both Ray Allen and Pierce.  And I wonder if he's strictly a gunner or if his defense can be serviceable, too.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5477272
     
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    The difference here is;

    1) He'd be the first guy off the bench backing up Pierce and Ray

    2) If his play is as good as advertised then he would be groomed as Ray's replacement and could conceivably be splitting time with Ray or starting in Ray's stead in 2011-2012' with Ray the backup or 6th man.

    3) Why go into suspension for two years when you could be playing for a contender with the potential to be the starting SG in 1-2 years?

    Either the guy is home sick or wanting to make more $ now. Otherwise the whole thing is a rouge to force Portland's hand and rightfully so as they promised him they'd try to find another team to execute a trade. Given the statement in the ESPN story, Portland hasn't acted in good faith given the offers they've gotten already. They can't get much more than a pick and another player with similar salary unless they execute a bigger trade (more players) and expecting a lottery pick (Bradley) under the current circumstances is just ridiculous and they know it.


    "The Celtics and Bulls have since offered their No. 1 picks in 2011, the source said, and the Knicks have offered shooting guard Wilson Chandler. But with more than a month remaining until the start of NBA training camps, Cho is waiting to see what else becomes available."
     
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    [QUOTE]Lafayette, Gaffney, and a pick for Fernandez. I think that's the only deal the Celtics can offer right now. 
    Posted by Fierce34[/QUOTE]

    Yup, unless they want to wait until Dec and take Wafer in lieu of Laf/Gaf.
     
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    Fernandez would be a good back up for Ray, but I don't see him in the SF role.  I'd still rather see a 6'8" player.  Now if we want to just acquire chips, Rudy is fine.  I just don't like our height on the roster.  KG, JON, Shaq and Ray have equality or advantages at their positions.  Rondo, Nate, BBD, and even PP are a little short.  Bradley and Harangody are also short.  Wafer and Quis at 2 and 3 are OK, but don't provide an advantage.

    PA
     
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    http://blog.oregonlive.com/blazers/2010/08/audio_trail_blazers_gm_rich_ch.html

    This doesn't make sense anymore. Wednesday The Oregonian said,

    "Other NBA general managers will tell you the Blazers are active and seeking a first-round pick for Fernandez. Why shouldn't they? Fernandez figured to play 20 to 25 minutes a game for the Blazers had he decided to show up in the coming season. And I suppose Fernandez would like Portland to trade him to a competitive team on the East Coast in exchange for a second-round pick. You know, make this nice and easy for him."

    But now ESPN has reported that The C's and Bull's have offered their 2011 first round picks ... so what is Cho holding out for if he has an offer for what other GM's say he is looking for? This should be a done deal but for Cho trying to get Bradley which is BS. If Cho isn't interested in the Knicks offer of Chandler then which #1 pick will be higher ... the Bulls or the C's next year?

     If I were a betting man, I'd say Chicago had a better chance at finishing higher in the East than the C's given the competition in the Atlantic Division ... hence, the C's provide the best chance of a higher 1st round pick in 2011 than Chicago. But I'm not a betting man and my gut tells me we finish higher than Chicago. Just trying to encourage Cho to takes Danny's offer ... hahaha!

    Of course as Chris Sheridan speculates, NY could provide a better pick than both the C's and the Bulls:

    "One possibility for the Knicks would be to trade Chandler to a third team for a No. 1 pick in 2012, and then ship that pick to Portland for Fernandez."

    but they'd have to wait to 2012 for that player ... the C's win!


    Wow! Oden is in the last year of his rookie contract. The C's dodged a bullet when Stern's ping pong balls conveneiently fell Portland's way ... Whewww!
     
    http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2010/08/greg_odens_status_unclear_six.html
     
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    As A. Sherrod Blakely tweeted:

    Larry and Rudy are both options, but I'm not crazy about locking up that 15th roster spot before camp starts.
     
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    [QUOTE]Fernandez would be a good back up for Ray, but I don't see him in the SF role.  I'd still rather see a 6'8" player.  Now if we want to just acquire chips, Rudy is fine.  I just don't like our height on the roster.  KG, JON, Shaq and Ray have equality or advantages at their positions.  Rondo, Nate, BBD, and even PP are a little short.  Bradley and Harangody are also short.  Wafer and Quis at 2 and 3 are OK, but don't provide an advantage. PA
    Posted by PACelt[/QUOTE] Bradley is 6'2 3/4" and Harangody is 6'8" neither one are short.
     
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    I don't want a Laker fan play for the Celtics
     
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    [QUOTE]As A. Sherrod Blakely tweeted: Larry and Rudy are both options, but I'm not crazy about locking up that 15th roster spot before camp starts . 5:56 AM Aug 19th via Twitter for BlackBerry® in reply to goodrich34 Or for that matter until a week or so after camp ... who knows what players may be released or put up for trade.
    Posted by Mployee8[/QUOTE]
    there is nor ever will there be a better player available.
     

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