Friction in Brooklyn?

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    Friction in Brooklyn?

    News coming out that KG doesn't like the fact of being told he needs to sit out of back to back games.

    “It didn’t go too well. I’m just being honest,” Garnett said Monday when asked about the conversation. “But I understand what he was saying. He’s trying to make sure I’m durable and can get through an 82-game season.

    “I understand what it is. He’s not coming to me personally or as a man or anything like that. He’s looking to better me. So I will try to be receptive like that.”

    “I just don’t want to be told anything. Hopefully, I’ve earned the right to have an opinion in something that I’m doing. But more importantly, seriously, from a chemistry standpoint, it’s important for me to be out there with everybody, and I think it’ll speed up the chemistry process a little"

    Coach Kidd has also announced that Joe Johnson will get the final shot in games.

    http://nesn.com/2013/10/kevin-garnett-does-not-want-to-rest-during-back-to-backs-was-honest-with-coach-jason-kidd/

     
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    Nah!  Growing pains.  KG and Paul Pierce are two of the most emotionally intelligent and versatile super stars.  Jason Kidd is a first time coach.  He will figure out how to deal with the guys.  They will all figure each other out.  None of Lopez, DWill, Joe Johnson, Terry and Kirilenko have a head case reputation.  They will initially struggle to discover the chemistry.  By mid-season, they will start cruising.

     
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    KG trying to keep his image intact... whats this no play on the back to back game.. He wants his teammates and fans to know hes not for it, he wants to play. Therefore, its Kidd making him sit against his will.

    Makes things a lot easier to handle for his teammates and fans..KG stays the ultimate warrior as Kidd forces him to stay fresh & durable.. If the Nets lose alot of the back end games, it falls on the coach and KG is off the hook

     
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    Apparently the Nets have decided to significantly and predictably limit KG's minutes by sitting him in back-to-back sets. Kudos.

    KG is a national treasure whose minutes need to be limited in order to bring out his very best when he is allowed onto the floor.

    This is the height of respect.

    KG should be honored that an organization so cares about him  that they move decisively to extend his career and his effectiveness.

    Pud

     
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    Does anybody really believe that Joe Johnson will get the last shot?

    PP is still better than JJ any day of the week and twice on sunday.

     
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    Nah!  Growing pains.  KG and Paul Pierce are two of the most emotionally intelligent and versatile super stars.  Jason Kidd is a first time coach.  He will figure out how to deal with the guys.  They will all figure each other out.  None of Lopez, DWill, Joe Johnson, Terry and Kirilenko have a head case reputation.  They will initially struggle to discover the chemistry.  By mid-season, they will start cruising.

     

    What? "emotionally intelligent"? Sorry man, high basketball IQ, YES, but "emotionally intelligent" is far from the truth. KG is the most intense player in the league and lets that intensity affect his emotions in ways that aren't very intelligent all of the time, i.e. calling guys with medical conditions "cancer patients", and PP gets so shook during cruch time nowadays that he's more likely to turn the ball over in the closing seconds than he is to hit the winner. Please, be real. Now if you are comparing them to Rondo, well, then I guess I understand. I love them both, but not because of their emotional intelligence.

     
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    Nah!  Growing pains.  KG and Paul Pierce are two of the most emotionally intelligent and versatile super stars.  Jason Kidd is a first time coach.  He will figure out how to deal with the guys.  They will all figure each other out.  None of Lopez, DWill, Joe Johnson, Terry and Kirilenko have a head case reputation.  They will initially struggle to discover the chemistry.  By mid-season, they will start cruising.

     

    What? "emotionally intelligent"? Sorry man, high basketball IQ, YES, but "emotionally intelligent" is far from the truth. KG is the most intense player in the league and lets that intensity affect his emotions in ways that aren't very intelligent all of the time, i.e. calling guys with medical conditions "cancer patients", and PP gets so shook during crunch time nowadays that he's more likely to turn the ball over in the closing seconds than he is to hit the winner. Please, be real. Now if you are comparing them to Rondo, well, then I guess I understand. I love them both, but not because of their emotional intelligence.

     

    +1. It is hard to see the bad when there was so much good with both of them though. At times, there were glimpses of it, but for the most part, "emotionaly intelligent" just isn't the right term.


     

     
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    Nah!  Growing pains.  KG and Paul Pierce are two of the most emotionally intelligent and versatile super stars.  Jason Kidd is a first time coach.  He will figure out how to deal with the guys.  They will all figure each other out.  None of Lopez, DWill, Joe Johnson, Terry and Kirilenko have a head case reputation.  They will initially struggle to discover the chemistry.  By mid-season, they will start cruising.

     

    What? "emotionally intelligent"? Sorry man, high basketball IQ, YES, but "emotionally intelligent" is far from the truth. KG is the most intense player in the league and lets that intensity affect his emotions in ways that aren't very intelligent all of the time, i.e. calling guys with medical conditions "cancer patients", and PP gets so shook during crunch time nowadays that he's more likely to turn the ball over in the closing seconds than he is to hit the winner. Please, be real. Now if you are comparing them to Rondo, well, then I guess I understand. I love them both, but not because of their emotional intelligence.

     

    +1. It is hard to see the bad when there was so much good with both of them though. At times, there were glimpses of it, but for the most part, "emotionaly intelligent" just isn't the right term.


     




    RALLY!

     
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    What the heck is emotional intelligence??  

    Do you mean Character? Savvy? Exprience? Skill? as in handling the media? maipulating a new coach or establishing a strong presense in a new environment?  

    In any case, both PP and KG have earned their right to establish their leadership and influence in Brooklyn.  But this is really about the inexperience of a new coach who speaks before carefully thinking things through.  I don't think Jason is particularly known for any type of intelligence... and  

    I believe that Kidd will be a disaster as a coach and we'll see bigger troubles down the line when he loses control of the team.

     

     

     
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    Does anybody really believe that Joe Johnson will get the last shot?

    PP is still better than JJ any day of the week and twice on sunday.



    EXACTLY! Pierce has shot a few game winners in Kidds FACE. If this is a smokescreen like I think it is, Kidd is smarter than I thought.

     
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    Does anybody really believe that Joe Johnson will get the last shot?

    PP is still better than JJ any day of the week and twice on sunday.



    EXACTLY! Pierce has shot a few game winners in Kidds FACE. If this is a smokescreen like I think it is, Kidd is smarter than I thought.



    PP is really bad at last shot over the latter part of his career.  10 years ago, maybe he is better than JJ, but lately, not so much.  It has been pretty much automatic loss or overtime with PP the last few years.

     
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    Nah!  Growing pains.  KG and Paul Pierce are two of the most emotionally intelligent and versatile super stars.  Jason Kidd is a first time coach.  He will figure out how to deal with the guys.  They will all figure each other out.  None of Lopez, DWill, Joe Johnson, Terry and Kirilenko have a head case reputation.  They will initially struggle to discover the chemistry.  By mid-season, they will start cruising.

     

    What? "emotionally intelligent"? Sorry man, high basketball IQ, YES, but "emotionally intelligent" is far from the truth. KG is the most intense player in the league and lets that intensity affect his emotions in ways that aren't very intelligent all of the time, i.e. calling guys with medical conditions "cancer patients", and PP gets so shook during crunch time nowadays that he's more likely to turn the ball over in the closing seconds than he is to hit the winner. Please, be real. Now if you are comparing them to Rondo, well, then I guess I understand. I love them both, but not because of their emotional intelligence.

     

    +1. It is hard to see the bad when there was so much good with both of them though. At times, there were glimpses of it, but for the most part, "emotionaly intelligent" just isn't the right term.


     

     




    RALLY!

     


    Yo Joe! I'm a Boston sports fan so expect to see me here brother. Good to hear from ya!

     
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    In response to Eldunker's comment:
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    What the heck is emotional intelligence??  

    Do you mean Character? Savvy? Exprience? Skill? as in handling the media? maipulating a new coach or establishing a strong presense in a new environment?  

    In any case, both PP and KG have earned their right to establish their leadership and influence in Brooklyn.  But this is really about the inexperience of a new coach who speaks before carefully thinking things through.  I don't think Jason is particularly known for any type of intelligence... and  

    I believe that Kidd will be a disaster as a coach and we'll see bigger troubles down the line when he loses control of the team.

     

     

    No doubt about it, Dunk! Jason Kidd with a group of vets and All-Stars/future HOFers to boot? Good thing that Russian has plenty of money to waste, because he wasted millions this season, and the root of it will be Jason. I don't get why they would go that route and experiment when WIN NOW is their mindset. Too much VODKA and COGNAC!!!


     
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    Hard to figure hiring a coach ripe from a playing career with no coaching experience whattsoever of any consequence ...and put him on a team of vets just assembled for a run at the title.

    Im thinking why put all that $$ into these players and not get a known quantity in a new coach.

     
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    nets fans better hope he can coach better than he can hold his liquor

    bp

     
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    nets fans better hope he can coach better than he can hold his liquor

    bp

    LOL! NICE!


     
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    In response to Eldunker's comment:

     

    What the heck is emotional intelligence??  

    Do you mean Character? Savvy? Exprience? Skill? as in handling the media? maipulating a new coach or establishing a strong presense in a new environment?  

    In any case, both PP and KG have earned their right to establish their leadership and influence in Brooklyn.  But this is really about the inexperience of a new coach who speaks before carefully thinking things through.  I don't think Jason is particularly known for any type of intelligence... and  

    I believe that Kidd will be a disaster as a coach and we'll see bigger troubles down the line when he loses control of the team.

     

     

     



    Just do a Google search.  It is a multi-faceted concept.  I am using it here, specifically for KG, to mean that he understands the emotional makeup of people around him well enough to harness them to accomplish what he has in mind.  Like getting under Melo's skin.  Like encouraging Jeff Green to be a f**k.  Like getting Rondo to recognize his responsibility in a turn over.  Like stressing the importance of chemistry over and over again.  For Paul Pierce, I am using it to mean that he is sufficiently adaptable and versatile to adjust his game to suit the team's needs.  Perhaps a reach as far as emotional intelligence is concerned.  But I still think that the characterization is valid.

     

    Finally, regarding Jason Kidd, it could be that he will be a disaster.  I don't think so.  Kidd has now played on multiple teams, in mutiple situations and has handled his career decline and transition very well.  He did not get a head case reputation anywhere and was respected.  Seems to me that the guy is very much in touch with reality.

    Aside, we seem to differ on everything: emotional intelligence, Phil Pressey's ceiling, Rondo, Jason Kidd, sense of humor, .....  Makes it worthwhile to contribute here.

     
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    In response to Karllost's comment:

    Hard to figure hiring a coach ripe from a playing career with no coaching experience whattsoever of any consequence ...and put him on a team of vets just assembled for a run at the title.

    Im thinking why put all that $$ into these players and not get a known quantity in a new coach.



    Larry Bird was quite successful and he did not have a team of this quality.  Kidd has a good staff, he has been there as a player and he has some real quality players on the team.

     
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    bird had dick harter as his right hand man and defensive specialist, along the lines of doc and thibs. kidd has lawrence frank. but we'll see.

    bp

     
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    It blows my mind that an organization would go out and assemble the talent that the Nets have. The have a legit All-Star at every position and even have one coming off the bench. 1-5, they have more overall talent than the Heat. Then turn the reigns over to Jason Kidd? In what reality does that make sense? It would be like buying a 2 million dollar sports car and giving it a paint job with a roller and some Home Depot paint. I really don't get it.

     

    Never mind that Kidd is a woman beating, drunk driving coward that no decent person can respect. He has no idea how to coach a team ZERO experience. He's got to try and meld all these egos into a team and he has zero experience. And the players know this. How much are they really going to buy in to what he has to say? Especially guys like KG an Pierce who are the same age?

     

    I hope it doesn't , because I would love to see PP get another title, but I could see this becoming a train wreck of epic proportions. Or they could win a title. I would be surprised by neither.

     
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    Does anybody really believe that Joe Johnson will get the last shot?

    PP is still better than JJ any day of the week and twice on sunday.

     



    EXACTLY! Pierce has shot a few game winners in Kidds FACE. If this is a smokescreen like I think it is, Kidd is smarter than I thought.

     

     



    PP is really bad at last shot over the latter part of his career.  10 years ago, maybe he is better than JJ, but lately, not so much.  It has been pretty much automatic loss or overtime with PP the last few years.

     



    I think that has to do with the lack of other attractions.  

    Ok, so say its an open 3 pointer?  You'd take JJ over PP?  Not me.

     

    but I'm no believe in joe... Never was.

     
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