Re: GAME OF THE YEAR THREAD: CELTS-HORNETS
posted at 4/15/2012 8:40 PM EDT
In Response to Re: GAME OF THE YEAR THREAD: CELTS-HORNETS
In Response to Re: GAME OF THE YEAR THREAD: CELTS-HORNETS : Celtsfan, on a nightly basis, Rondo is directly responsible for getting everyone shots THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL about 12 times a game (about 14 over the past 15 games) right. So, Rondo gets 14 assists and he's getting others involved. So of the estimated 27 passes that he makes to players getting them the open shots, they convert 14 of the passes to buckets (assists). That leaves about 13 passes that don't result in made baskets. In my opinion, Rondo is in a much better position on a majority of those missed shots to make the easy basket (at the rim but passes out to the 3 point line, etc.). To me, Rondo can take the shot on at least half of those passes and be aggressive offensively and it would result in more offensive efficiency and more of a threat from our PG position. How many times do we see Rondo at the rim passing it out to the 3-point line only to see Pierce or Pietrus miss the 3. To me, those are the very instances where Rondo should take the shot because those are the most "make-able". He's still going to get his 14 assists but he'll also have provided some scoring. That would relieve PP and KG from working to get those buckets on those possessions. More of that would open things up more for the others. You don't agree with that? Yes, things are working pretty well but honestly how many times does this team just go stagnant because guys aren't hitting shots. How many times does this team go into offensive funks where we just cannot score points? Too many times for me.
Posted by Petey62
I really do understand your logic and I do see instances where he passes and he could have shot. But, I don't agree that it happens too often. I say that because the only way you get those wide open 3's that Bradley hit today, that Ray and Paul hit, and those Bass + KG wide open jumpers is that he attracts attention and kicks. Honestly, I would rather see Ray or Paul taking a wide open three than Rondo trying to take a runner over a big man. 50% of say 15 3 point attempts is more scoring than 50% of him trying to flip in a shot those 15 times. I like how its working right now.
So, if he starts shooting more and stops passing as much - Paul, KG, Bass, Bradley, and Ray have less wide open jumpers when they are all good jump shooters. I don't like that.
Also remember, those other passes you are talking about may not be his assist, but if he passes to Paul and Paul then passes to KG for a wide open jumper - that's great ball movement. I personally love teams that move the ball. I am a very old (admitted) Celtic fan. I've ALWAYS loved players who move the ball that second or third pass and end up with a easy shot. Not quite as glamourous as a Derrick Rose/Lebron James/Duane Wade difficult runner, but to me - more effective which is why Dallas beat Miami last year and why our Celtic teams have done so well over the years WITHOUT having a scoring champion. I love the Bob Cousy model which is what Rondo is doing.
I know you don't agree and I really do understand your logic. I just love the way we are playing now and I love the ball movement an the open shots. I wouldn't want to disrupt that by saying Rondo should shoot more. Sorry - but that's just how I see it.