Game Thread: Celtics vs Bulls

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    Blow it up!!!

     
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    "Boston Sucks, Boston Sucks"

     

    I think we needed to hear that chant

     
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    We get manhandled by team after a back to back and we had two nights off. It tells you this roster is in need of changes.

     
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    Time for Doc to call it a career... he should get  a new line.. like greeting people at the VIP lounge before games

     
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    I feel bad for AB. He's going to have the weight of the world on his shoulders when he returns.

     
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    Doc thank you for the memories but you've lost control of this team. Sadly, you have to go.

     
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    Time for Doc to call it a career... he should get  a new line.. like greeting people at the VIP lounge before games

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    To be fair ... if this was LA or NY, Doc might be fired at this point.

    Would NEVER happen in Boston.

     
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    Interesting!

    Eric Freeman @freemaneric

    My interest. RT @MikePradaSBN: Who says no to a Jeff Green/Kris Humphries trade?

     
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    Time for Doc to call it a career... he should get  a new line.. like greeting people at the VIP lounge before games

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    There comes a time in  a coach's career when his players start tuning him out.  Happens  to most of them at some point.  Maybe that's  part of what we're seeing right now.  Doc can yell and namecall all  he  wants but the player's for the most part are not buying it.  When that happens, it's time for the coach to walk  into the sunset.  I  know I've disagreed with  you in the past Karl, but in spite of not having a complementary big for KG, the C's have enough good players and a good enough bench to do better in games like this (when they're rested and the other team is tired).  Doc and DA are good buds, so firing is out of the question, IMO, but there is a big disconnect on  this team right now and things may be going  from  bad to worse. Time to move  the onus onto Doc?  Maybe.

     
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    the whole small ball is painful to watch.. I agree, Doc has no clue right now what to do with this team.

     
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    Let me say to you, you better be right.  Or this is an under .500 team.  No other big man equals the end of KG. 

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    The end of KG was back in 2010 when the Celtics lost to the Lakers in the Finals. But we kept hoping the Celts had 1 more run left in them.

    Only 3 players at the age of 35, or older, led their team to a championship. Those 3 are Jabbar, MJ, and Bill Russell.

    Also, no team has won a championship averaging less then 40 rebounds per game.

    So this current Celts team is not on track to win a championship. But if Ainge can make a deal to bring in a big man who can score inside and rebound, the Celts will be back in the hunt.

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    Fierce, all your points about getting rebounding big man - is right. BUT, we need something else that hasn't been mentioned. We need BALLERS. We need COMPETITORS. KG & Pierce compete every night, we need more of that.

     

    That is why I want Milsap. Milsap BALLS HARD. He gets intense and can take over games. Bass is trying hard, but Milsap has that baller gene, the same as the greats. Green doesn't have it. Lets hope AB does.

     
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    Interesting!

    Eric Freeman @freemaneric

    My interest. RT @MikePradaSBN: Who says no to a Jeff Green/Kris Humphries trade?

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    No. Avery Johnson isn't playing him because he's not playing defense!

     
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    the whole small ball is painful to watch.. I agree, Doc has no clue right now what to do with this team.

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    When Doc got the right players he won a championship. 

    The problem is not Doc or Ainge, it's the salary cap rules. Lakers, Celtics, and Mavs, those were the teams with high payrolls the previous 5 seasons and look at them now.

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    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

     
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    Time for Doc to call it a career... he should get  a new line.. like greeting people at the VIP lounge before games

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    There comes a time in  a coach's career when his players start tuning him out.  Happens  to most of them at some point.  Maybe that's  part of what we're seeing right now.  Doc can yell and namecall all  he  wants but the player's for the most part are not buying it.  When that happens, it's time for the coach to walk  into the sunset.  I  know I've disagreed with  you in the past Karl, but in spite of not having a complementary big for KG, the C's have enough good players and a good enough bench to do better in games like this (when they're rested and the other team is tired).  Doc and DA are good buds, so firing is out of the question, IMO, but there is a big disconnect on  this team right now and things may be going  from  bad to worse. Time to move  the onus onto Doc?  Maybe.

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    most of these players are new to the team so they're not tuning Doc out. Who is? KG? Pierce? I doubt it.  maybe Rhondo maybe but that's it. There's more going on that needs fixing. Tune out is not one of them.

     
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    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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    +1.....

    Lack of leadership is the main culprit.

    Cs have plenty of talent to be playing winning ball.

    Pud

     
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    Fierce, all your points about getting rebounding big man - is right. BUT, we need something else that hasn't been mentioned. We need BALLERS. We need COMPETITORS. KG & Pierce compete every night, we need more of that.

    That is why I want Milsap. Milsap BALLS HARD. He gets intense and can take over games. Bass is trying hard, but Milsap has that baller gene, the same as the greats. Green doesn't have it. Lets hope AB does.

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    I agree Millsap is someone who "balls hard". But we need more, we need that 3rd scorer who can rebound also. Someone who's an impact player, that's what the Celts need right now.

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    Milsap is all of that.

     
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    Mock Draft   # Team Player H W P School C 1 <strong>Washington</strong>  Washington Cody Zeller 6-11 240 PF/C Indiana So. 2 <a href='http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_trades/2013'  title='Thunder receive the Raptors&#039; 2013 first-round pick (Top 3 protected and 15-30 in 2013, top 2 protected and 15-30 in 2014 and &#039;15, Top 1 protected and 15-30 in 2016 and &#039;17, and unprotected in 2018). (Kyle Lowry trade) via Houston (Harden trade)'  class='mock_team_link'><strong>*Toronto</strong></a>  *Toronto Nerlens Noel 6-11 225 PF/C Kentucky Fr. 3 <strong>Cleveland </strong>  Cleveland Ben McLemore 6-5 195 SG Kansas Fr. 4 <strong>New Orleans</strong>  New Orleans Shabazz Muhammad 6-6 225 SF UCLA Fr. 5 <a href='http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_trades/2013'  title='Bobcats receive the Pistons&#039; 2013 first-round pick (top 14 protected in the 2013 draft, top 8 in 2014, top 1 in 2015, and unprotected in 2016)'  class='mock_team_link'><strong>*Detroit</strong></a>  *Detroit Marcus Smart 6-4 225 PG/SG Oklahoma State Fr. 6 <strong>Phoenix</strong>  Phoenix Otto Porter 6-8 205 SF Georgetown So. 7 <a href='http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_trades/2013'  title='Cavs receive the Kings 2012 first-round pick (top 13 protected in 2013, top 12 in 2014, top 10 protected in 2015 and 2016, otherwise a 2nd round pick in 2017'  class='mock_team_link'><strong>*Sacramento</strong></a>  *Sacramento Alex Len 7-1 240 C Maryland So. 8 <a href='http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_trades/2013'  title='Bulls receive the Bobcats&#039; 2013 first-round pick (top 12 protected in 2013, top 10 protected in 2014, top 8 protected in 2015, unprotected in 2016)'  class='mock_team_link'><strong>*Charlotte</strong></a>  *Charlotte CJ McCollum 6-3 190 PG/SG Lehigh Sr. 9 <strong>Orlando</strong>  Orlando Tony Mitchell 6-8 235 SF/PF North Texas So. 10 <a href='http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_trades/2013'  title='Phoenix receives Lakers first round pick. (top 14 protected).'  class='mock_team_link'><strong>*LA Lakers</strong></a>  *LA Lakers Archie Goodwin 6-4 198 SG Kentucky Fr. 11 <a href='http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_trades/2013'  title='Bobcats receive the Blazers&#039; 2013 first-round pick (top 12 protected in the 2013, 2014, and 2015, and unprotected in 2016)'  class='mock_team_link'><strong>*Portland</strong></a>  *Portland Glenn Robinson 6-6 210 SF Michigan Fr. 12 <a href='http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_trades/2013'  title='Hawks receive the Rockets&#039; 2013 first-round pick via Nets (top 14 protected in 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016, or 2017 2nd round pick)'  class='mock_team_link'><strong>*Houston</strong></a>  *Houston Alex Poythress 6-8 240 SF/PF Kentucky Fr. 13 <strong>Indiana</strong>  Indiana James McAdoo 6-9 230 SF/PF North Carolina So. 14 <strong>Minnesota</strong>  Minnesota Mason Plumlee 6-11 240 PF Duke Sr. 15 <strong>Denver</strong>  Denver Anthony Bennett 6-7 240 SF/PF UNLV Fr. 16 <a href='http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_trades/2013'  title='Thunder receive Mavericks&#039; 2013 first-round pick. (top 20 protected until 2017). via Rockets (Harden) via Lakers (Odom) (Jordan Hill trade)'  class='mock_team_link'><strong>*Dallas</strong></a>  *Dallas Willie Cauley-St... 7-0 245 C Kentucky Fr. 17 <strong>Milwaukee</strong>  Milwaukee Michael Carter-W... 6-6 185 PG/SG Syracuse So. 18 <strong>Utah</strong>  Utah Dario Saric 6-10 220 SF/PF Croatia Intl. 19 <strong>Boston</strong>  Boston Isaiah Austin 7-0 205 PF/C Baylor Fr. 20 <strong>Brooklyn</strong>  Brooklyn Rudy Gobert 7-1 230 C France Intl. 21 <a href='http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_trades/2013'  title='Heat receive the 76ers&#039; 2013 first-round pick (lotto protected 2013,&#039;14,&#039;15) If first round pick has not been received by 2015 becomes 2015 and 2016 second rounders. (#27 pick trade, Moultrie)'  class='mock_team_link'><strong>*Miami</strong></a>  *Miami Andre Roberson 6-7 210 SF Colorado Jr. 22 <strong>Chicago</strong>  Chicago Trey Burke 6-0 190 PG Michigan So. 23 <strong>Atlanta</strong>  Atlanta Isaiah Canaan 6-1 200 PG Murray St. Sr. 24 <a href='http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_trades/2013'  title='Jazz receive the Warriors&#039; 2013 first-round pick, via Nets (Marcus Williams trade) (top 7 protected in 2013, top 6 in 2014. Or Jazz will receive Warriors&#039; 2014 and 2016 second round picks)'  class='mock_team_link'><strong>*Utah</strong></a>  *Utah CJ Wilcox 6-5 195 SG Washington Jr. 25 <strong>LA Clippers</strong>  LA Clippers Jeff Withey 7-0 235 C Kansas Sr. 26 <a href='http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_trades/2013'  title='Cavs receive the Heat&#039;s first round pick.'  class='mock_team_link'><strong>*Cleveland </strong></a>  *Cleveland Lorenzo Brown 6-4 186 PG/SG NC State Jr. 27 <strong>New York</strong>  New York Deonte Burton 6-1 185 PG Nevada Jr. 28 <a href='http://www.nbadraft.net/nba_draft_trades/2013'  title='T&#039;Wolves receive the Memphis&#039; 2013 first-round pick (lotto protected 2013-2016, or 2nd round pick)'  class='mock_team_link'><strong>*Minnesota</strong></a>  *Minnesota Rodney Williams 6-7 200 SF Minnesota Sr. 29 <strong>Oklahoma Cty</strong>  Oklahoma Cty Doug McDermott 6-7 225 SF Creighton Jr. 30 <strong>San Antonio</strong>  San Antonio Robert Covington 6-9 230 SF Tennessee State
     
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    Fierce, all your points about getting rebounding big man - is right. BUT, we need something else that hasn't been mentioned. We need BALLERS. We need COMPETITORS. KG & Pierce compete every night, we need more of that.

    That is why I want Milsap. Milsap BALLS HARD. He gets intense and can take over games. Bass is trying hard, but Milsap has that baller gene, the same as the greats. Green doesn't have it. Lets hope AB does.

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    I agree Millsap is someone who "balls hard". But we need more, we need that 3rd scorer who can rebound also. Someone who's an impact player, that's what the Celts need right now.

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    I feel bad for Pierce and KG, they deserved at least 2 rings but it is what it is. Interesting times ahead. Make a trade to improve now or make deals for the future? Though Ainge hasn't shown any interest in rebuilding from scratch. Difficult decisions to make.

     
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