Green is still out and not likely to be for awhile
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Green is still out and not likely to be for awhile
posted at 12/15/2011 1:39 PM EST
The vague comments by DA were not encouraging today. If he can't play this really puts the Celtics behind the eight ball. With a medical condition I assuming that it is heart related do the Celtics have an latitude to do anything. I am assuming he did not pass his physical.The idea that the season will start without Green in the rotation sounds very ominous for this team. I can see JON breaking down in just a few games. -
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posted at 12/15/2011 1:50 PM EST
In Response to Green is still out and not likely to be for awhile:The vague comments by DA were not encouraging today. If he can't play this really puts the Celtics behind the eight ball. With a medical condition I assuming that it is heart related do the Celtics have an latitude to do anything. I am assuming he did not pass his physical. The idea that the season will start without Green in the rotation sounds very ominous for this team. I can see JON breaking down in just a few games.
Posted by concord27
Definitely agree that this isn't good news. I was really looking forward to Green's contributions this season. We can only hope that he is ok and doesn't have a serious medical problem. -
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posted at 12/15/2011 2:06 PM EST
Susan,What is so discouraging is that the guy had enough trouble learning last year. Without training camp he may have the same problem this year.Of course I feel terrible for this seemingly fine young player but Danny has to figure out something because the rotation will have problems at the very start of the season rather than in a few weeks this will be serious problem for already weary older front line. -
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posted at 12/15/2011 3:15 PM EST
According with Danny Ainge words, Its seems a serious health problem ... Hopefully I'm wrong ...... this guy seems nice person. Hopefully playing basketball again soon ... Best wishes to him. -
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posted at 12/15/2011 3:46 PM EST
Recent or current health problems: Green physical, Daniels back sugery, JO needs sugery, Rondo ankel, Paul Pierce foot injury, BEGINNING TO LOOK LIKE A POTENTIAL LOST YEAR. -
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posted at 12/15/2011 3:47 PM EST
The Cs just may being ultra cautious until they receive test results back. Not a good situation however, something is obviously amiss -
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posted at 12/15/2011 3:53 PM EST
Completely agree. Just speculation, but this sounds like what happened with Reggie Lewis. The Celtics have to take every precaution with Green until they can be 100% sure he is healthy. -
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posted at 12/15/2011 4:22 PM EST
Doc made a comment that he is frustrated with the Green situation and that he has never seen anything like it before.Could it be they are looking for some grounds to void his contract. If it was so sad I believe Doc would not have been so outspoken. -
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posted at 12/15/2011 4:24 PM EST
Hope Green is okay in the long run, but there's no way we see him on the court if this is indeed related to a heart issue. The fact that they're offering zero info on this is discouraging.
Finals winner will have an asterisk beside its name anyway, due to a shortened season. And that winner won't be the Lakers, trolls. -
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posted at 12/15/2011 4:33 PM EST
10 to 1 when they finally break the new it has to do with his heart -
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posted at 12/15/2011 4:41 PM EST
Imagine we had traded him in the package for Paul and it got voided for Green not passing the physical. -
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posted at 12/15/2011 4:43 PM EST
did the other team know about this last year?...so quick to trade young talent -
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posted at 12/15/2011 5:20 PM EST
In Response to Re: Green is still out and not likely to be for awhile:Completely agree. Just speculation, but this sounds like what happened with Reggie Lewis. The Celtics have to take every precaution with Green until they can be 100% sure he is healthy.
Posted by celtsfan
Agree that it reminds me of Reggie Lewis situation. That is exactly what I thought. Just hope that he listens to the medical experts and takes their advice. -
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posted at 12/15/2011 6:04 PM EST
I think it was careless of the C's to sign Jeff Green this year without making him pass a physical first. The money being spent on Green could have been used to pursue another veteran free agent that can help the team in an already abbreviated season. -
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posted at 12/15/2011 6:48 PM EST
I feel for Jeff. Nice guy who's been working all summer to strengthen his game. I saw him in a summer league and he's playing with a lot of confidence. This has got to be heart related given it came from a stress test and they've being so secretive.If he has a serious problem, maybe the league will grant some sort of trade exception or signing exception so we can sign someone else? -
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posted at 12/15/2011 7:09 PM EST
In Response to Re: Green is still out and not likely to be for awhile:I feel for Jeff. Nice guy who's been working all summer to strengthen his game. I saw him in a summer league and he's playing with a lot of confidence. This has got to be heart related given it came from a stress test and they've being so secretive. If he has a serious problem, maybe the league will grant some sort of trade exception or signing exception so we can sign someone else?
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posted at 12/15/2011 7:13 PM EST
the first thing that came to my mind was reggie lewis. let us all pray that jeff is okay.basketball is only a game, we are talking about a young man's life. who cares about voiding a trade or whatever
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posted at 12/15/2011 7:16 PM EST
heard they are filling in the press friday afternoon on weei today. -
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posted at 12/15/2011 7:22 PM EST
In Response to Re: Green is still out and not likely to be for awhile:the first thing that came to my mind was reggie lewis. let us all pray that jeff is okay.basketball is only a game, we are talking about a young man's life. who cares about voiding a trade or whatever
Posted by albroadway
Exactly! I hope it is nothing serious for JG. -
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posted at 12/15/2011 7:29 PM EST
Worst case scenario:Disabled Player Exception: Allows a team that is over the cap to acquire a replacement for a disabled player who will be out for either the remainder of that season (for in-season injuries/deaths) or the next season (if the disability occurs during the offseason). The maximum salary of the replacement player is either 50% of the injured player's salary, or the mid-level exception for a non-taxpaying team, whichever is less. This exception requires an NBA-designated doctor to verify the extent of the injury. Under the 2005 CBA, a team could sign a player under this exception for five years; the 2011 CBA now allows this only for one year.[5]
Note that while teams can often use one exception to sign multiple players, they cannot use a combination of exceptions to sign a single player.
The Celtics can then trade JO and the exception from Jeff Green's disability, which is 4.5m, to trade for Okafor or Kaman.
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posted at 12/15/2011 8:18 PM EST
When you are tired and under nourished and then you exercise vigorously, the body can easily have a sudden drop in blood pressure. You feel lightheaded and faint with shortness of breath. Jeff said he had sat waiting 4 hrs for his flight, didn't eat or sleep and then took a late stress test. Maybe he had a drop in BP and the associated symptoms which can seem very serious. Good to be cautious. The young man worked very hard this summer and I hope this is not serious. Thanks, Fierce, for answering he question on whether we are eligible for an exception if this is serious and long term. -
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posted at 12/15/2011 8:23 PM EST
In Response to Re: Green is still out and not likely to be for awhile:When you are tired and under nourished and then you exercise vigorously, the body can easily have a sudden drop in blood pressure. You feel lightheaded and faint with shortness of breath. Jeff said he had sat waiting 4 hrs for his flight, didn't eat or sleep and then took a late stress test. Maybe he had a drop in BP and the associated symptoms which can seem very serious. Good to be cautious. The young man worked very hard this summer and I hope this is not serious. Thanks, Fierce, for answering he question on whether we are eligible for an exception if this is serious and long term.
Posted by Celtsfan4lifeYou're welcome. -
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posted at 12/15/2011 8:46 PM EST
Fierce,I thought the physical determined if the contract was valid and goes through. The disabled exception does not address if the contract is even valid. If you have to pass a physical before any job that requires it, the contract does not kick until the physical has been passed. So why are the celtics not able to free up the whole amount?