A recent piece by Mazz (maybe???) on the sports page suggests that with this injury, we will finally be able to answer the question of exactly how important Rondo is to this team. 

My guess is.... not terribly. Unless doc gets conflicted, falls apart... and can't coach sending the team down the krapper.

In the meantime....Stay strong Rajon.  Stay strong, doc.

Pud

In response to puddinpuddin's comment:

exactly right!

the guard position was the best position to lose a player (not that its good to lose a player) because it is where he had depth.

Bradley- 24 min/G (21.7 last year)

Lee- 22.8Min/G (26.6 career)

Terry- 28 min/G (lowest since his rookie year)

Barbosa-11 min/G (23.9 Career)

can't get it done?

 maybe not a true point guard in the bunch, but come on each  of these guys have gotten in done in the NBA.

What he us saying that players have to elavate their game but,play their game well not try to be Rondo. What's he supposed to say?

What he us saying that players have to elavate their game but,play their game well not try to be Rondo. What's he supposed to say?

acie doesn't like simple words "don't try to be Rondo" or "basketball by committee". What acie wants is something more harsh like "fatwa" or "slavery".

Don't get in the way of acie's 800 complains per minute or you'll be sorry!

In response to Fierce34's comment:

acie doesn't like simple words "don't try to be Rondo" or "basketball by committee". What acie wants is something more harsh like "fatwa" or "slavery".

Don't get in the way of acie's 800 complains per minute or you'll be sorry!

Fierce, you're really....  not making any sense.

I made an observation about a soundbite from a coach who seems to do very little right but wake up in the morning and go to sleep at night- things anyone can do.

it doesn't take much to "say something good" for the team right now, but what he said did not make sense to me.  and others.  see?

In response to Rajon-Hondo's comment:

What he us saying that players have to elavate their game but,play their game well not try to be Rondo. What's he supposed to say?

my point was that saying nothing is better than that.  just saying "the team will surely miss rajon, but we have to press on and do our very best" would have been better. 

instead doc splattered out some absolutely impossible-isms

Do we know what Doc is saying when there are no cameras or reporters around?

Bad coaches don't win championships.

Mike Brown is the only coach to have ever coached both Kobe and Lebron. The result? ZERO championships.

D'Antoni had Nash, Amare, Joe Johnson, and Marion and he couldn't even get to the Finals. He also had Carmelo, Tyson, and Amare, and he couldn't get out of the first round of the playoffs.

When KG and Pierce were 31 or 32 years old, the Celtics won 66 and 62 games. Even made it to the Finals again in 2010. It's not that hard to figure out that it's not the coach, it's the players that got old.

Come on, its just an interview. What should he do, hire a speech writer? I don't like how Doc has been handling the team, but its silly to dissect every word he says, i think.

In response to Fierce34's comment:

Do we know what Doc is saying when there are no cameras or reporters around?

Bad coaches don't win championships.

Mike Brown is the only coach to have ever coached both Kobe and Lebron. The result? ZERO championships.

D'Antoni had Nash, Amare, Joe Johnson, and Marion and he couldn't even get to the Finals. He also had Carmelo, Tyson, and Amare, and he couldn't get out of the first round of the playoffs.

When KG and Pierce were 31 or 32 years old, the Celtics won 66 and 62 games. Even made it to the Finals again in 2010. It's not that hard to figure out that it's not the coach, it's the players that got old.

I don't think Doc's coaching had much to do with our play in 2007 and 2008 either. That group of players was ultra-talented and very motivated to get their first ring. And of course there was/is KG.

My granny could have coached that team with great results.

In response to basketbert's comment:

Come on, its just an interview. What should he do, hire a speech writer? I don't like how Doc has been handling the team, but its silly to dissect every word he says, i think.

Doc speaks with such imprecision that we are left dissecting his series of cliches looking for something of substance to hang our hats on.

And when we feel we finally know what he might be getting at, doc contradicts himself, sending us scurrying again in confusion searching for clarity.

What doc SAYS and what he actually DOES only adds to communication problems.

Same with DA IMHO.

Pud

In response to basketbert's comment:

In response to Fierce34's comment:

Do we know what Doc is saying when there are no cameras or reporters around?

Bad coaches don't win championships.

Mike Brown is the only coach to have ever coached both Kobe and Lebron. The result? ZERO championships.

D'Antoni had Nash, Amare, Joe Johnson, and Marion and he couldn't even get to the Finals. He also had Carmelo, Tyson, and Amare, and he couldn't get out of the first round of the playoffs.

When KG and Pierce were 31 or 32 years old, the Celtics won 66 and 62 games. Even made it to the Finals again in 2010. It's not that hard to figure out that it's not the coach, it's the players that got old.

I don't think Doc's coaching had much to do with our play in 2007 and 2008 either. That group of players was ultra-talented and very motivated to get their first ring. And of course there was/is KG.

My granny could have coached that team with great results.

That's not true. Mike Brown and D'Antoni are proof of that.

Remember, the Celts went to Game 7 against the Hawks in the 1st round and another Game 7 against the Cavs in the semis. The Celts could have choked in both series.

Some here take Doc and Ainge for granted. But people like Rick Pitino, Dave Gavitt, Chris Wallace, Jimmy Rodgers, M.L. Carr, Jim O'Brien, Chris Ford, and John Carroll never made a Celtics team go into the Finals.

Fierce,

Blaming the coach is the height of stupidity on this board. Doc got five years out of the big three and these posters cannot see how incredibly River's has managed it.  Do they realize what he accomplished in 2010 and 2012? Do they remember KG was on the shelf and he almost got to the finalsl in 2009?  They also think Rondo is a mole and destroying the team from the inside.

In response to concord27's comment:

Fierce,

Blaming the coach is the height of stupidity on this board. Doc got five years out of the big three and these posters cannot see how incredibly River's has managed it.  Do they realize what he accomplished in 2010 and 2012? Do they remember KG was on the shelf and he almost got to the finalsl in 2009?  They also think Rondo is a mole and destroying the team from the inside.

Agree.

What's worse is Karl wants to replace Doc Rivers with Jeff Van Gundy.

HAHAHA

In response to Fierce34's comment:

In response to concord27's comment:

Fierce,

Blaming the coach is the height of stupidity on this board. Doc got five years out of the big three and these posters cannot see how incredibly River's has managed it.  Do they realize what he accomplished in 2010 and 2012? Do they remember KG was on the shelf and he almost got to the finalsl in 2009?  They also think Rondo is a mole and destroying the team from the inside.

Agree.

What's worse is Karl wants to replace Doc Rivers with Jeff Van Gundy.

HAHAHA

Doc in retrospect will be appreciated. He is a great coach.