We should try to trade him with New York for Wilson Chandler(they were ofering him to get rudy)

What do you think?

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68849/20100826/celtics_looking_at_possible_fernandez_trade/

The salary cap won't allow the Celtics to get Wilson Chandler and his 2.1m. 

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Good Post!

How bout a trade? We still have Laf/Gaf and Davis available. Tell us more about how Davis is irreplaceable. Maybe you've changed your mind since PP is getting anxious for a backup. I think he is untouchable this late in the game unless a Godfather offer comes our way.

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I know the salary dont match,but it´s a little diference.
I´m sure if DA get Rudy and the NY still willing to trade Chandler for Rudy they will figure out.

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Is it the SF that you object to or his pot smoking?

Chief had a pot addiction and nobody held that against him ... so by association you would never have traded for 00?

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No I'm not ... if we could get good value for him and another player at his position (assuming the player he was traded for was a SF) to replace him, I'm all for it. My point is, at this point the Tollivers of the world are all signed so it's almost impossible to use him as trade bait now for that SF unless we were to get back a SF and PF which is doubtful. And with most of the decent FA PF's signed there isn't much available to replace him at this point unless somebody decent is cut after training camps.

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I think PP is on the downside and we will witness his aging fairly rapidly. Therefore it is imperative that we have a decent backup to save his aging legs and provide more days off as needed.

 I think with Shaq at Center we have enough at PF with JON and KG. When JON is at Center that is the only time we will be weak at PF with KG and possibly Luke should Davis be traded. When Perk comes back (provided he's close to 100%) then we have Shaq & Perk at center with KG and JON at PF. So we are only weak at PF until Perk returns and JON has to play both C/PF.

I think given those circumstances we'd be more competitive with a creditable SF or SF/PF behind PP than worrying about the backup at PF when we have two guys there already (KG/JON). Amundson and even Joe Smith could provide enough given an affective SF backup should we need to trade Davis to get that SF. So it's a matter of priorities .... I think SF is more important and you think BBD is more important than overplaying PP it seems ... somewhat surprising coming from a guy sporting a PP image for his moniker.


http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?STORY_ID=17174

Louis Amundson, PF: Amundson seemed to carve out a niche for himself in Phoenix over the last two seasons, providing the Suns with energy, effort and athleticism off the bench while proving that he belongs in the NBA. 

The former UNLV standout is a solid finisher, rebounder and shot blocker who could add some size and hustle to any bench in the NBA.  The Warriors, Hornets and Pacers are all said to be hot in pursuit of Amundson and he could reach a deal prior to the conclusion of this week. 

Joe Smith, PF/C: There isn't a whole lot to dislike about Joe Smith.  Yes, he's an aging (well, maybe an aged) big man at this point in his career, but he is a solid locker room guy with tons of experience and knowledge. 

The former No. 1 overall draft pick (1995) won't give a team a ton of minutes throughout the season but could be a serviceable spot starter on the front line and be a valuable commodity come playoff time for the veteran's minimum.  

IS it time for another look at Simmons? I still prefer Hayes but Hoopsworld has him as one of their ten best remaining FA's.

Bobby Simmons, SF: Since winning the NBA's Most Improved Player award in 2005, Simmons has seen his numbers fall off considerably and the DePaul product was never able to live up to the five-year, $47 million contract he signed with the Milwaukee Bucks the following offseason. 

Let's not make it seem as though Simmons brings nothing to the table, however.  In eight NBA seasons (he sat out the '06-07 campaign while nursing an ankle injury), Simmons has posted career averages of 9.4 points, four rebounds and 1.6 assists in 25 minutes per game while shooting .401 from behind the three-point line.  In 2008-09, his .447 shooting from distance was good enough to rank fifth in the NBA.
Simmons certainly isn't going to command anywhere near the same type of money that Milwaukee game him back in 2005, but he is veteran player that can stretch the floor and rebound his position.

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I never said i WANT to trade BBD,but if this would make our team better i would
do it in a heartbeat.
And i DO think wilson chandler would make our team better.

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Face it folks, DAinge and Doc have got to roll the dice with MDaniels as back up small forward behind Pierce. If he plays up to his capabilities, and doesn't get hurt, he's a fine bench player. Bringing in a malcontent like Fernandez is NOT the answer for the Celts. Let him go back to Europe and average 8.9 pts per game against other Euro trash players!

We also have to look how the MELO TRADE will end.
Look at this article

http://www.bostoncelticsreport.com/2010/08/boston-celtics-danny-ainge-keeping-his-eyes-on-denver.html/

Here we go again ----- can you two kiss and make up and stick to bball instead of jabbing at each other?  Please, no more "but he said..blah, blah, blah"; get past it already. Fact: people have different views, and they can agree to disagree without continually watching every nuance in every word that the other writes - and people do change their minds form time to time and shouldn't be castigated for it.  The last thing one can do is change another person.  Maybe neither of you is/has been married; you can't change a spouse, you can only alter your own responses to certain stimuli.  Well-adjusted adults don't bother doing this.  No one cares if you're right or wrong because this is just a discussion board and nothing comes of it - no one gets traded, re-signed, or cut because of what is written by us armchair types.A free exchange of ideas is not reserved for universities, but also works quite well in the real world, as well.     

Honestly painter ... read his response will ya! What's up with this guy?

/> What you're saying is the Celtics need a new SF, not a backup SF. I now understand why you want another SF. The fact that Ainge gave Pierce a 4-year extension means that they still believe in Pierce's abilities. <

That's BS cuz that's not what I said and you know it. The guy tries to discredit posts by re-interpreting statements and turning them into some devious hidden agenda which is absurd. I clearly indicate that PP has reached his pinnacle and is on the downside of his career and needs a reliable backup to help extend his career and protect him/C's from early termination in the playoffs. If I was insinuating we needed a replacement I would be talking a far better trading chip than Davis's $3M contract and he'd be the first to point out that we couldn't get a top tier SF for Davis ... why don't you guys ever call him out on these BS posts he makes rather than letting him get away with it?

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I never said any such thing though I'm sure it's on Danny's list of "Things to do before 2013." I certainly hope so, anyway, don't you?!?!

The only controversy is your inability to comprehend basic English ... are you an immigrant or a byproduct of the public school system? Seriously ...

A tease for those still hoping:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxFTc-Su2GI

From Oregonlive.com:

"Can Blazers GM Rich Cho get something done with Fernandez in five weeks? Cho has said repeatedly that he will only do a deal that is in the best interests of the Blazers, absolutely the correct stance to take. And Fernandez's frustrations aren't necessarily going to end with a trade. As Evans Clinchy writes on NESN.com, if Fernandez goes to Boston, one of his desired destinations, his role could be just as limited as he thinks it is with the Blazers."

True, but only temporarily ... should he pan out he'd be the go to guy behind RA and/or PP after this year so there is a light at the end of the tunnel unlike the one in Portland.

I am not sold on Rudy Fernandez.  In watching the World Championships, he appears very soft.  He shows no strength.  He looks very light and doesn't appear to play ANY defense.

I hear he is a shooter but, honestly, I'm not seeing that.  Seems that he wants to be a highlight player.  Shows no sound fundamentals for the game. I know, I know, it's only international play.

I seriously question his ability to guard anyone with any strength.  I can see why he makes only $1 million.

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Your right! I'm not sold on Rudy Fernandez either. He's possibly a good shooter but he can't do anything else very well, especially play DEFENSE. I don't think he's a good pick up at all. Kobe will kill him if Celtics and Lakers meet up again in the finals. If he plays point guard, Steve Blake or even D-Fish will handle him. Not worth it!!! We need more defensive players for the point guard and shooting guard position.

We only need someone who can shoot.  We have enough people for D.  I really believe Bradley will help us.  But we still need a backup to PP