Re: Is Moose Monroe any better than what we already have?
posted at 7/25/2014 5:56 PM EDT
In response to dhs1950's comment:
In response to CelticGreenLP's comment:
While using 36 minutes to level the playing field is very useful to reconcile numbers there can be a problem or two to deal with. In this case the difference in actual minutes played by Monroe and Olynyk is quite significant. 2690 minutes by Monroe vs 1400 for Olynyk. Its quite likely, that while Monroe played most of his minutes against the starters, Olynyk spent considerable time playing against the bench. As a matter of fact, Monroe started all 82 games while Olynyk started 7 of 79 games
I would agree with you if...
*Teams all had equally talented starting lineups.
*Players never stepped in and out of starting lineups during the season.
*Starters never got injured.
*Starters were ALWAYS better than bench players.
*Teams always used wholesale substitutions: Starters vs Starters & Bench vs Bench only.
*Players never played more productively as a starter if/when the are moved from a bench role. (This happens often)
For every Blake Griffin type starter there is a Bargnani type of starter. Throughout the course of a season if a guy is in the top say...8 in his teams rotation, he will see a comparible and widely varied level of competition that includes starters, 6th men, superstars, and scrubs.
Also as mentioned above, just as a starter must at times face stiffer competition, a starter also has the benefit of playing with higher level teammates, which makes this argument a wash.
In a lot of cases this results in players being more efficient and productive because the guys they are playing with space the floor, pass the ball, and cover their back on defense better than the players who would be coming off the bench with them.
These variables lead me to the opinion that the per 36 min stat in this case is fair and accurate in its assessment that Kelly O, Sully, and even Zeller would be just as, if not more productive if given the same opportunities that Greg Monroe has been blessed with in Detriot.
I have no opinion on this subject since it is pure speculation. I thought I would just mention minutes played as an important factor to be considered. Your certainly correct in listing 6 other factors to also be considered. Perhaps some day there will be statistical data factoring in these 6 other issues and a clearer opinion can be formed. But for now its all pure speculation and perhaps even biased by fan hometown loyalty. Never the less its great conversational subject matter to pass the time of day during the offseason.