It's like trading Bird/McHale in '91 to tank for Shaq and also get lotto picks in '94 and '96

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    Re: It's like trading Bird/McHale in '91 to tank for Shaq and also get lotto picks in '94 and '96

    D12 to the beantown

     
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    Re: It's like trading Bird/McHale in '91 to tank for Shaq and also get lotto picks in '94 and '96


    We still have 2 big chips left to stockpile more picks or players.

    Rondo and Humphries deals are about to expire. Humphries has a expiring deal of $12M next year and the following year Rondo has a $11M expiring deal.

     

     

     
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    Re: It's like trading Bird/McHale in '91 to tank for Shaq and also get lotto picks in '94 and '96

    trade humphries for pick(s)

     
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    Re: It's like trading Bird/McHale in '91 to tank for Shaq and also get lotto picks in '94 and '96


    I'm going to go ahead and say that Ainge KNOWS the importance of big men and Doc was the one who pushed small ball.

    Ainge drafted a a a PF in Sully last year and a 7'0 in Melo, drafted 2 7'0s this year in Clynk and Iverson.

    Doc didn't play Steemer, didn't play Randolph or White when they came aboard but he played Crawford and TWill.

    A few years ago Ainge handed Doc a ton of bigs...Shaw, JON, Erden, Perk...and by mid-season they were all gone.

    Griffin and Jordan should be VERY afraid that Doc doesn't know how important bigs are to a team.

     
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    Re: It's like trading Bird/McHale in '91 to tank for Shaq and also get lotto picks in '94 and '96

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    I'm going to go ahead and say that Ainge KNOWS the importance of big men and Doc was the one who pushed small ball.

    Ainge drafted a a a PF in Sully last year and a 7'0 in Melo, drafted 2 7'0s this year in Clynk and Iverson.

    Doc didn't play Steemer, didn't play Randolph or White when they came aboard but he played Crawford and TWill.

    A few years ago Ainge handed Doc a ton of bigs...Shaw, JON, Erden, Perk...and by mid-season they were all gone.

    Griffin and Jordan should be VERY afraid that Doc doesn't know how important bigs are to a team.



    it may just be me...but i'm glad DOC is gone...

     
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    Re: It's like trading Bird/McHale in '91 to tank for Shaq and also get lotto picks in '94 and '96

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    I'm going to go ahead and say that Ainge KNOWS the importance of big men and Doc was the one who pushed small ball.

    Ainge drafted a a a PF in Sully last year and a 7'0 in Melo, drafted 2 7'0s this year in Clynk and Iverson.

    Doc didn't play Steemer, didn't play Randolph or White when they came aboard but he played Crawford and TWill.

    A few years ago Ainge handed Doc a ton of bigs...Shaw, JON, Erden, Perk...and by mid-season they were all gone.

    Griffin and Jordan should be VERY afraid that Doc doesn't know how important bigs are to a team.

     



    Shaw?

     



    C'mon you know who I meant Shaq

     
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    Can somebody talk to me like I'm a 5 year old.

    Danny has 2 first round picks in 2014 a very deep draft, Which if the the C's are bad enough one could turn out to be a lottery pick.

    BOS. / BRKLYN  1st round

    Two more in 2015 . He has Celts and the LA Clippers choice for Doc then in 2016 he has the Celts and the 1st round and the Brklyn 1st.

    Plus what he will get for Rondo.

    Thats a lot to add to Sullinger, Green, Olynyk and who ever else they deciced to keep.

    Celts contenders by 2016 ???? Thats a fearly quick  turn around when you consider we waited 22 years b

     
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    Re: It's like trading Bird/McHale in '91 to tank for Shaq and also get lotto picks in '94 and '96

    The Nets trade is more like the Herschel Walker trade.

     
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    Re: It's like trading Bird/McHale in '91 to tank for Shaq and also get lotto picks in '94 and '96

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    So Danny is already WAAAAAAYYYYY ahead of where the Celtics were back in the early 90's when they faced a similar situation.

    How many of you back in June of 1991 would have liked to have been in the position this team is now, instead of the direction they ended up going in? It would have been sad to see McHale and especially Bird leave the team... but nice to know they went somewhere together with a better title chance.

    Then to really be bad enough to get a shot at Shaq we'd have had to trade Reggie Lewis, he was the Rondo of the team in '91. His death in '93, while obviously still a horrible tragedy, wouldn't have happened with him on a Boston roster. Who knows, in another city with different Dr's than that fool Mudge (or whatever) who gave him the horrible advise, maybe he LIVED, and just never played ball again. Think about that?

    Then the C's would have had a shot at Shaq (like we hopefully will Wiggins) and 2 first rd picks in each draft '93, '94, '96 (like we will '15, '16, '18)



    Lewis was not the Rondo of '91.  He was a Pierce.

     

     
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    So Danny is already WAAAAAAYYYYY ahead of where the Celtics were back in the early 90's when they faced a similar situation.

    How many of you back in June of 1991 would have liked to have been in the position this team is now, instead of the direction they ended up going in? It would have been sad to see McHale and especially Bird leave the team... but nice to know they went somewhere together with a better title chance.

    Then to really be bad enough to get a shot at Shaq we'd have had to trade Reggie Lewis, he was the Rondo of the team in '91. His death in '93, while obviously still a horrible tragedy, wouldn't have happened with him on a Boston roster. Who knows, in another city with different Dr's than that fool Mudge (or whatever) who gave him the horrible advise, maybe he LIVED, and just never played ball again. Think about that?

    Then the C's would have had a shot at Shaq (like we hopefully will Wiggins) and 2 first rd picks in each draft '93, '94, '96 (like we will '15, '16, '18)

     



    Lewis was not the Rondo of '91.  He was a Pierce.

     

     

     



    Really? Lewis was a 35-36 year old franchise icon on his last legs in 1991? I'm comparing the '91 Celtics to the '13 Celtics. Not who played what position.

     

    My point is age and value related. Rondo is 27. In 1991 Lewis was 26. After the old big 3 were gone they were/are each the best player left on the team, the bright spot, the new face, etc.

    And if the C's want to tank for Wiggins then Rondo's talent stands in the way. Just like if the C's of 1991 had traded away the big 3 earlier than they ended up, to start the rebuild, and tank for Shaq, Reggie Lewis's talent would have hindered that process.

     

     



    that's my point as well....but his value would be that of Pierce not a Rondo.  At 26-27 years old, I would take Pierce over Rondo as far as skill set and locker room presence.  The knock on Rondo is that he can't lead a team by himself.  This was not the knock on Lewis or Pierce.  Both were guys you would build a team around without question.

     
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