J.A. Adande says Cousins good fit in Boston

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    J.A. Adande says Cousins good fit in Boston

    ...but we lack the players to get him:

    The Boston Celtics would be a good environment for Cousins, and perhaps he could learn enough from old dogs Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett (despite his antics in games, Garnett has never been a problem for coaches and set a tone of defensive accountability from the moment he arrived in Boston) this season to be a building block for when the team moves forward without the Big Three.

    But I can't think of a player that would make sense for Sacramento to take back in a trade. And it's not as if the Kings are looking for expiring contracts. They had enough trouble meeting the minimum payroll this year; the last thing they need is more salary cap space.

     
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    He would be perfect here, of course he'd have to grow up

    Avery, Johnson, Moore and both 1st rd picks would get it done $ wise and give the Kings FOUR players in the 20-23 age range as of this summer who were all picked in the 19-27 range of the draft.

    But that couldn't be enough to land a 21 year old 6'11" 270 beast who was a 13 point, 9 rebound, 1 block guy last year at age 20.

    Next year, with us transitioning to it being Rondo's team... Cousins with his head on straight would be turned into a 23-12-2
     
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    He would be perfect here, of course he'd have to grow up Avery, Johnson, Moore and both 1st rd picks would get it done $ wise and give the Kings FOUR players in the 20-23 age range as of this summer who were all picked in the 19-27 range of the draft. But that couldn't be enough to land a 21 year old 6'11" 270 beast who was a 13 point, 9 rebound, 1 block guy last year at age 20. Next year, with us transitioning to it being Rondo's team... Cousins with his head on straight would be turned into a 23-12-2
    Posted by rameakap


    U know Rondo was considered a head case before he got here as well.  If we could get this guy it would be a good move IMO.  Of course I don't think any other teams are going to give up comparable talent for him.  Why would they?  He doesn't make enough money so the options are a little more limited.
     
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    Let's just hope DA makes the effort!
     
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    Maybe we could just swap a tall headcase for a short headcase.

    Now that might work.

    Pud
     
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    The thing is do the franchise's that would love a young Center and have the better assets to get him, be able to help him mature and be destinations he'd want to go to?

    A Cousins to Portland for Odom trade makes sense, same with the Rockets and Thabeet. Both teams could sweeten the pot with a draft pick that is likely 6-12 spots higher than either of the two Boston would offer.

    San Antoinio would make sense for the same reason Boston would.

    Philly could gamble on him with their own occasional headcase young big man (Speights) and like a top 5 protected pick (likley in the teens).

    Cousins wouldn't want to go to places like Minnesota, Charlotte (maybe b/c of MJ?), Toronto, Detroit, Cleveland, Golden State, New Jersey (maybe b/c of DWill), New Orleans, G-State and Utah.

    All the other teams are happy with their Centers, except maybe Miami, who couldn't make a very good offer.
     
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    He would be perfect here, of course he'd have to grow up Avery, Johnson, Moore and both 1st rd picks would get it done $ wise and give the Kings FOUR players in the 20-23 age range as of this summer who were all picked in the 19-27 range of the draft. But that couldn't be enough to land a 21 year old 6'11" 270 beast who was a 13 point, 9 rebound, 1 block guy last year at age 20. Next year, with us transitioning to it being Rondo's team... Cousins with his head on straight would be turned into a 23-12-2
    Posted by rameakap


    Well, that is the best we can do...............unless we expand the trade. 
     
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    In Response to Re: J.A. Adande says Cousins good fit in Boston : U know Rondo was considered a head case before he got here as well.  If we could get this guy it would be a good move IMO.  Of course I don't think any other teams are going to give up comparable talent for him.  Why would they?  He doesn't make enough money so the options are a little more limited.
    Posted by OneOnOne


    Cousins is a a starter, currently a top 4 player for any contender and somone who should be one of the two best guys on his teams in 1-2 years and for his prime.

    Very unlikely anyone gives up a top 10 pick in this years deep lotto or even a near equal in talentyoung starter for him. You are looking at a lot of teams who may swap a less talented PF-C and a pick in the teens for him tho.

    That is likely better than what the Celtics can offer.
     
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    Boston Fantasy Land.
    Don't you think Sacramento could get more for Cousins then a terrible Avery Bradley, two guys that have played a combined 21 minutes in their career and a draft pick?
     
    By the way, Sacramento has said that they are not trading Cousins.
     
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    Boston Fantasy Land. Don't you think Sacramento could get more for Cousins then a terrible Avery Bradley, two guys that have played a combined 21 minutes in their career and a draft pick?   By the way, Sacramento has said that they are not trading Cousins.
    Posted by mtrax


    In a related story (not really) in the LA Times, some people want the lakers to bring in Nate Robinson, because kobe "is selfish and shoots too much."

    LOVE IT!!
     
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    In Response to Re: J.A. Adande says Cousins good fit in Boston:
    In Response to Re: J.A. Adande says Cousins good fit in Boston : Well, that is the best we can do...............unless we expand the trade. 
    Posted by Red-16Russ-11


    yes the only way I can see us expanding the trade is using Wilcox/Sasha's expiring contract of over 4 million and maybe 1-2 of those young guys to get a 3rd team to give up a player Sacramento wants more. Likely someone more expensive that the 3rd team doesn't want to pay. Sacramento has TONSof cap space to absord such a hit.

    Not sure that really works tho.

    I don't think you want to trade Jermaine at this point, b/c he would likely pout, be bought out, and land on Miami, then if Cousins isn't ready to be at least a 28 minute a game Center who buys into the team concept (we'd need defense and 10+ rebounds over his scoring) then you've really upset the balance of the club and made it harder for us to compete this year.

    Of course, if you've already given up on this team as anything more than a 2nd rd playoff club you might as well gamble on the Rondo-Pierce-Green-Bass-Cousins lineup of next season (with 15 million in cap space) being a pretty good foundation of the future.
     
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    Boston Fantasy Land. Don't you think Sacramento could get more for Cousins then a terrible Avery Bradley, two guys that have played a combined 21 minutes in their career and a draft pick?   By the way, Sacramento has said that they are not trading Cousins.
    Posted by mtrax


    got a link to that

    NBA experts are weighing in, like the Adande articel I posted, saying it is inevitable he gets traded

    and yes I have said OVER and OVER (if you bother to read all the posts) that Boston's best offer (which includs TWO 2012 1st rd picks) is likely not as good as other teams out there.. and Bradley is the same age as Cousins, he could still turn into a decent player
     
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    In Response to Re: J.A. Adande says Cousins good fit in Boston : yes the only way I can see us expanding the trade is using Wilcox/Sasha's expiring contract of over 4 million and maybe 1-2 of those young guys to get a 3rd team to give up a player Sacramento wants more. Likely someone more expensive that the 3rd team doesn't want to pay. Sacramento has TONSof cap space to absord such a hit. Not sure that really works tho. I don't think you want to trade Jermaine at this point, b/c he would likely pout, be bought out, and land on Miami, then if Cousins isn't ready to be at least a 28 minute a game Center who buys into the team concept (we'd need defense and 10+ rebounds over his scoring) then you've really upset the balance of the club and made it harder for us to compete this year. Of course, if you've already given up on this team as anything more than a 2nd rd playoff club you might as well gamble on the Rondo-Pierce-Green-Bass-Cousins lineup of next season (with 15 million in cap space) being a pretty good foundation of the future.
    Posted by rameakap


    BOTH!!  I like that team, with Nick Young starting and Ray and PP coming off the bench!!

     
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    Re: J.A. Adande says Cousins good fit in Boston

    Got a link where Sacramento has said they are trading him?
    Outside of Rondo, Boston has no established young talent to trade to Sacramento.
     
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    In Response to Re: J.A. Adande says Cousins good fit in Boston : BOTH!!  I like that team, with Nick Young starting and Ray and PP coming off the bench!!
    Posted by Red-16Russ-11


    That is a good start for the future...

    I would like O.J. Mayo over Young, but Young is at least unrestricted... Mayo has more overall skills and is a tough kid... Young is skinny and only scores
     
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    Got a link where Sacramento has said they are trading him? Outside of Rondo, Boston has no established young talent to trade to Sacramento.
    Posted by mtrax


    don't flip the question around fool... we are speculating on a trade demand sources said the kid made and the coach's clearly upset comments as he sent the kid home.

    NBA experts are saying is highly likley he is traded based on his behavior, chain of events and past situations with similar immature talents.

    You just came here and LIED
     
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    Re: J.A. Adande says Cousins good fit in Boston

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    In Response to Re: J.A. Adande says Cousins good fit in Boston : got a link to that NBA experts are weighing in, like the Adande articel I posted, saying it is inevitable he gets traded and yes I have said OVER and OVER (if you bother to read all the posts) that Boston's best offer (which includs TWO 2012 1st rd picks) is likely not as good as other teams out there.. and Bradley is the same age as Cousins, he could still turn into a decent player
    Posted by rameakap


    From the Sacremento Bee:

    Seriously? Cousins wants to be traded? The Kings would be nuts to entertain a single phone call, which apparently are not. "We leave that stuff (the benching) to the basketball people," Kings co-owner Joe Maloof said before tipoff, "but we're not trading him." They might have considered picking up the phone, though, and placing a pre-emptive courtesy call to Cousins' agent, John Greig. That would have been prudent and mature and pre-emptive, and a clear indication that, amid the stormy season's start, cooler heads indeed will prevail.

     
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    Well we shall see what the best basketball decision is for the team, player, coaching staff, etc.

    Clearly the owners, agent, player and coach are not on the same page.
     
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    Maybe there is a way to work Jeff Greene into the equation.   Just thinking out loud.
     
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    Well we shall see what the best basketball decision is for the team, player, coaching staff, etc. Clearly the owners, agent, player and coach are not on the same page.
    Posted by rameakap


    We know the best decision for Sacramento would not be to trade Cousins for Boston's scraps.

    You guys always think that the value of 4 poor players equals 1 really good player. It doesn't. Boston's picks that will probably be in the 20-23 range aren't too enticing to the Kings who usually pick in the top 7 of every draft.
     
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    Well we shall see what the best basketball decision is for the team, player, coaching staff, etc. Clearly the owners, agent, player and coach are not on the same page.
    Posted by rameakap


    Just from what I was reading on the Sac newspaper,  it looks like they need a new head coach.  Sounds like nobody gives a hoot about Wesphal.  I got the .feeling he comes off pretty arrogant to his players.  Of course I am speculating.  Sure sounds like they don't like him much.  Also the management appears to  be in dissaray as well.  How do you not call a agent about a player?  Let him find out about it on the internet
     
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    Mtrax what is your deal? It's a discussion, there are no GMs here, not even you. Some ESPN guy said something and this is the reaction. Danny has tried many trades and will look into it just like all of the teams. Scraps and picks? Picks are useful and Sacramento is not contending. One of the picks is the Clippers too. Who is your team and what scraps and picks are they going to offer?
     
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    Mtrax what is your deal? It's a discussion, there are no GMs here, not even you. Some ESPN guy said something and this is the reaction. Danny has tried many trades and will look into it just like all of the teams. Scraps and picks? Picks are useful and Sacramento is not contending. One of the picks is the Clippers too. Who is your team and what scraps and picks are they going to offer?
    Posted by NegativeTrollsAbound


    The Clippers should be in the playoffs this year. That pick that Boston has is not very enticing to Sacramento.

    Sacramento needs some established players who make significant money to meet the minimum payroll requirement. Bradley and picks don't meet that criteria.

    If I make up a trade proposal for "my team", it would be way better for Sacramento then the ones that are mentioned in this and other threads.
     
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    Re: J.A. Adande says Cousins good fit in Boston

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    In Response to Re: J.A. Adande says Cousins good fit in Boston : The Clippers should be in the playoffs this year. That pick that Boston has is not very enticing to Sacramento. Sacramento needs some established players who make significant money to meet the minimum payroll requirement. Bradley and picks don't meet that criteria. If I make up a trade proposal for "my team", it would be way better for Sacramento then the ones that are mentioned in this and other threads.
    Posted by mtrax

    Well we are all waiting anxiously.
     
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    Re: J.A. Adande says Cousins good fit in Boston

    Cousins is a very troubled player.  To assume he is worth dismantling a team for someone who in his second year has demanded a trade is poor judgement.

    Dismantling this team is a fact of life to rebuild with a guy like Cousins is crazy. JJ. Adande hates the Celtics and would be thrilled if we paid a lofty price for this hot-headed giant. 

    Ainge will be all over this and you can be sure Doc will know if he should go out and get this nut. 
     
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