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    Boy I hope you guys are right and I am wrong. I have seen so many players drive by Green effortlessly, that were not even as quick as he is. Remember the Utah game in Salt Lake City. Krilenko (certainly not as explosive as Lebron) went right around him 4 or 5 times. If he is at all indecisive when guarding James the ref's will be calling foul after foul. Again, I hope the people supporting him are right. Time will tell.   
     
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    [QUOTE]I once started a "Jeff Green Sucks" thread, so I've been pretty critical of him and he is certainly no Tony Allen on defense (Tony Allen was in the top five in defensive player of the year voting) but he is actually a good defender when defending threes like lebron and the numbers prove it. it's when he has to defend out of position and cover guys like Pau Gasol at the 4 that he is in trouble.  Also, those saying he is not strong enough to defend James, should know that Carmelo is stronger than lebron (according to Kobe bryant and others) and Green did a pretty good job on him. If nothing else, Green is certainly bigger and physically stronger than Tony Allen was (you never see Allen at 6' 4'' guarding Gasol)    In fact, if Green comes with the right mindset he has the length quickness and strength to bother Lebron more than you might think. 
    Posted by jtkl[/QUOTE]

    Very interesting comments.  I hope that you are right about Green. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Have to agree with you. However, its doubtful Green spends that much time on the floor covering Lebron.. PP is prob gonna play 40+ min per game... and the time Lebron spends on his own bench, Green may have a handful of minutes a game to defend Lebron. If thats the case, Green will be able to pester Lebron (before surely fouling out) on the perimeter and our help defense is always needed to contain his drives, whether its PP or Green guarding him. In the post, Green will get killed. BBD could have a big series taking charges... its a perfect storm with Lebron & his wreckless, out of control drives... then its all up to the refs and how they want to call it... which is anyones guess
    Posted by Karllost[/QUOTE]

    All good points, Karl.

     
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    [QUOTE]Boy I hope you guys are right and I am wrong. I have seen so many players drive by Green effortlessly, that were not even as quick as he is. Remember the Utah game in Salt Lake City. Krilenko (certainly not as explosive as Lebron) went right around him 4 or 5 times. If he is at all indecisive when guarding James the ref's will be calling foul after foul. Again, I hope the people supporting him are right. Time will tell.   
    Posted by calvinator[/QUOTE]


    I believe all that is said is right for the near term, but I have not lost faith over the long haul.  If Doc stays and Jeff has a training camp with the current Celtics coaching staff + KG + the veterans, I think you'll see a different Green.  I believe that from seeing him through college, he adapts to his environment.  When playing with Hibbert and others, Jeff was a different player.  I think the habits he picked up in OKC are correctable IF he was around someone like KG and Paul for a preseason.

    Unfortunately, the one week of practice he just had may not be enough for these playoffs.  We shall see!!
     
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    I would put Rondo on Lebrains on certain occassions..his quickness bothers lebrons, will force him to shoot jumpers or post up..we just need to keep him from the free throw line...
     
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    [QUOTE]Come to think of it,I don't enjoy watching LeBron play.The unfair advantage makes me lose interest.In basketball,if you can push people out of the way,then crash into anybody else on the way to the basket,you should score every time.Where's the sport in that?
    Posted by JohnTAlouette[/QUOTE]
     
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    Posted by jrleftfoot I`m a Celtics fan ,but the idea that being bigger and stronger than your opponent gives a player an "unfair advantage" against his opponent is ludicrous.Speed ,power and strength are the essence of sports. Otherwise you and I could be in the NBA. The Celtics need to overcome Lebron`s athletic advantages by performing more skillfully than he does ,and I think they will, but there is nothing unfair about utilizing the gifts you happen to enjoy.
     
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    I like Rondo on Lebron.
    I think Green and Ray need to give it a try as well.
    I think Green got better on defense during the NY series; he will get better this series as well. Green has some physical tools to work with, but just doesn't have the experience.

    Agree with all that watching Lebron do the football running back thing is just stupid. He needs to be fouled really hard if he does this. This is why Shaq is a must.
    You have to bully a bully to succeed. If the refs don't want to call charges then the players need to step up and take some really hard fouls. There is no other player that I would say this against.
     
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    Please stop throwing players under the bus.  Games must be played. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Please stop throwing players under the bus.  Games must be played. 
    Posted by jonnnyrotten[/QUOTE]

    Sounds like he threw MeBron under the bus.  Who are you a fan of anyway?
     
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    ROndo can occassionally pick up Lebron on the perimeter and bug him but not for very long.  Remember, it all sounds nice but Lebron is physically a monster as compared to Rondo and given enough time, the banging & pushin will wear ROndo down quick, if not foul him out first.

    Then I guess PP picks up Chalmers or Bibby... hmmmm

    Pick your spots, change up the look, yea.... it works cause Lebron likes to start everything from the perimeter and is not a post up player.  but as a gameplan to stick with him... I dont like it.

    Lebron will eventually drive, shove ROndo away like a flea and cause issues in the paint..  Refs will enjoy fouling Rondo out too so Lebron remains king of the NBA


     
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    [QUOTE]...May end up being a disaster. First of all, let's examine Jeff Green's time in Okhlahoma. Being a western conference team, OKC has played LeBron what, 6 times in the last 3 years? In addition, Jeff Green was not the guy assigned to guard LeBron: OKC has all world small forward Kevin Durant and defensive specialist Thabo Sefeloshia. With these two players buying time at the 3 spot, it stands to reason that Green would not see many 1 on 1 defensive assignments against LeBron. It's hard not to expect the Heat to run some iso sets against Green when PP heads to the bench. Next, lets look at Jeff Green's defensive skills.  He may have done a so-so job on Carmello due to Green's length and speed, but Jeff does not have the strength to guard LeBron. I fear James will be able to do his patented running back shoulder move on Green to find his way to the basket nearly ever possession. Lastly, examining Jeff Green's motivation does not yield promising results. Playing defense on LeBron requires a Tony Allen-like dedication. Annoying his every movement, attempting to deny every inlet pass, having that hand 2 inches away from his face but never fouling. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think Jeff is up to the challenge. In addition, if Jeff can't do the job when PP is sitting, say in Games 1 + 2, the only guy left capable to guarding the King is Sasha Pavlocic. Thoughts? Go C's! EDIT: Spelling
    Posted by IanJB[/QUOTE]or VON WAFER! doc may also put green on mr. wade to distract him with some length! additionally, he may also get to guard chris bosh for obvious reasons! that may actually be the best scenario and let bb just do the center thing. jeff green will play more than 20 minutes a gane in this series. he is seriously important. how he responds could determine the winner of the series
     
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    [QUOTE]Green has now had some time to integrate into the Celtics defense and offense with the time off. As a result I expect improved play from him. If not, he is worth 6 reach in fouls on Lebron.
    Posted by Jump-ball-overtime[/QUOTE]

    We all should expect for him to play better. There is no longer any excuse. for Danny Ainge's sake, Green had better play better or he (Ainge) is going to have to face a bunch of ticked off Celtic fans.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Jeff Green's Guarding LeBron... : I believe all that is said is right for the near term, but I have not lost faith over the long haul.  If Doc stays and Jeff has a training camp with the current Celtics coaching staff + KG + the veterans, I think you'll see a different Green.  I believe that from seeing him through college, he adapts to his environment.  When playing with Hibbert and others, Jeff was a different player.  I think the habits he picked up in OKC are correctable IF he was around someone like KG and Paul for a preseason. Unfortunately, the one week of practice he just had may not be enough for these playoffs.  We shall see!!
    Posted by Celtsfan4life[/QUOTE]

    I agree with you.  Green is going to be a great player for the Celtics in the future.   He doesn't have enough time to really help during the playoffs this year.  We can only hope that he and the rest of the bench play better in the next round.  
     
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    This is a perfect assignment for Green.  He has six fouls to give so he can play aggressively.  This will help protect PP and who knows with his length it may create problems for Lebron and Wade offensively.  If Green goes out with a mindset of a bench guy trying to disrupt the superstars he has very little to lose. He must not as he can sometimes be passive.  He must be aggressive and try to disrupt things.
     
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    [QUOTE]This is a perfect assignment for Green.  He has six fouls to give so he can play aggressively.  This will help protect PP and who knows with his length it may create problems for Lebron and Wade offensively.  If Green goes out with a mindset of a bench guy trying to disrupt the superstars he has very little to lose. He must not as he can sometimes be passive.  He must be aggressive and try to disrupt things.
    Posted by concord27[/QUOTE]


    In essence, Green needs to have Tony Allen's attitude when he checked Lebron at times in the past and when he checked Manu this year (and kobe at times).  TA just became so bothersome that they all got out of their game.   Green needs to think - my only job is to make his life miserable.
     
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