Jennings to Detroit means Rondo will not end up in Detroit

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    Re: Jennings to Detroit means Rondo will not end up in Detroit


    I would say that is a given now.

     

    unless there is something brewing that is being VERY quite.......i'd say Rondo will be here for a while.

     

     

     
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    "Jennings to Detroit means Rondo will not end up in Detroit"

    Brilliant deduction  Sherlock!

     
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    Re: Jennings to Detroit means Rondo will not end up in Detroit

    What it means is Joe Dumars blinked ... he didn't have the guts to pay for what he really wanted and settled for what he needed sans the greatness to get them back to their glory days. Too bad for both Piston and Celtic fans .... No trophies for the Motor City anytime soon.

     
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    Re: Jennings to Detroit means Rondo will not end up in Detroit

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    If Ainge can't get a lottery pick for Rondo then the Rondo haters would be miserable for the next 6 or 7 years as Ainge is most probably going to give Rondo a max contract.



    What sort of schizo-world does Fungus live in?

    The choices seem to be (1) DA either gets a lottery pick for R9R or (2) DA signs him to a max contract instead. 

    Calling Doctor Freud!!!

    Electro-Shock therapy.... ASAP.

    Pud

     
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    Yes, pud, you better believe it because that's what's going to happen.

    It's either get a lottery pick for Rondo or give Rondo the max.

    My friend.... get a responsible grown up to read your material.... before you hit the "Add your post" button.

    Pud

     
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    This ends the dream of getting Drummond or Monroe.

    Looks like the earliest a Rondo trade can happen is at the trade deadline, February of 2014.




    LOL is there an echo in this forum?  You're pointing out something everybody knows, but hey, that's pretty much what this whole forum has been doing for the last several years!  Missingteeth

     
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    Re: Jennings to Detroit means Rondo will not end up in Detroit

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    What it means is Joe Dumars blinked ... he didn't have the guts to pay for what he really wanted and settled for what he needed sans the greatness to get them back to their glory days. Too bad for both Piston and Celtic fans .... No trophies for the Motor City anytime soon.




    But they became a good team with potential, didn't they? Many people believe that Drummond will be a dominant defensive player in the future, Monroe is already good on offense, Smith is good, Jennings is a gunner but he's young and has a room to improve. Don't know much about the rest of their roster but i think the core is good.

     
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    What it means is Joe Dumars blinked ... he didn't have the guts to pay for what he really wanted and settled for what he needed sans the greatness to get them back to their glory days. Too bad for both Piston and Celtic fans .... No trophies for the Motor City anytime soon.

     




     

    But they became a good team with potential, didn't they? Many people believe that Drummond will be a dominant defensive player in the future, Monroe is already good on offense, Smith is good, Jennings is a gunner but he's young and has a room to improve. Don't know much about the rest of their roster but i think the core is good.

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    You just pointed out the problem ... the refusal to give up Drummond (potential/future dominating center) for an experienced, championship proven PG and opting to go with an unproven PG will handicap the Pistons and ultimately cost them a championship or more.

    In order to keep Drummond, they will move Monroe to PF and Smith to SF putting those two out of their natural positions to accommodate two unproven players in Jennings & Drummond. They would have had much better chemistry by keeping Monroe at center and Smith at PF with a proven championship PG leading the way. All they needed was a veteran SF that fit well with RR & JSmoove and they'd be potential division winners. We could have traded Wallace with RR and taken back Villanueva etal along with Knight & Drummond and both teams would have been winners.

    Dumars succeeded in keeping Drummond and getting a PG with experience but did he really make the Pistons contenders ... I don't think so. If anything he's impeded their growth and cost them time and maybe a Championship in order to hold onto a future core piece that may not be ready for playoff basketball yet. Another degenerate gambler ....

     
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    What it means is Joe Dumars blinked ... he didn't have the guts to pay for what he really wanted and settled for what he needed sans the greatness to get them back to their glory days. Too bad for both Piston and Celtic fans .... No trophies for the Motor City anytime soon.

     

     




     

     

    But they became a good team with potential, didn't they? Many people believe that Drummond will be a dominant defensive player in the future, Monroe is already good on offense, Smith is good, Jennings is a gunner but he's young and has a room to improve. Don't know much about the rest of their roster but i think the core is good.

     

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    You just pointed out the problem ... the refusal to give up Drummond (potential/future dominating center) for an experienced, championship proven PG and opting to go with an unproven PG will handicap the Pistons and ultimately cost them a championship or more.

     

    In order to keep Drummond, they will move Monroe to PF and Smith to SF putting those two out of their natural positions to accommodate two unproven players in Jennings & Drummond. They would have had much better chemistry by keeping Monroe at center and Smith at PF with a proven championship PG leading the way. All they needed was a veteran SF that fit well with RR & JSmoove and they'd be potential division winners. We could have traded Wallace with RR and taken back Villanueva etal along with Knight & Drummond and both teams would have been winners.

    Dumars succeeded in keeping Drummond and getting a PG with experience but did he really make the Pistons contenders ... I don't think so. If anything he's impeded their growth and cost them time and maybe a Championship in order to hold onto a future core piece that may not be ready for playoff basketball yet. Another degenerate gambler ....

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    I think Dummars just wanted to secure himself and have more time before he would get fired  to build a contender. If he had traded for Rondo and Wallace (and lost Drummond in the process) he would have shortened the window for the team (RR's 26 and GW's ~30).  But he stayed put and secured himself against any questions like "When Detroit will win it all?" from their fans. He would just say:"Give them more time, they are still young..."

     
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    Re: Jennings to Detroit means Rondo will not end up in Detroit

    What it means is Dumars didnt think Rondo was worth it... smart move. In fact, seems the market for Rondo gets smaller and smaller.

    Wonder why BRandon Knight was offered straight up for Rondo.. if Rondos such a superstar?

    Maybe they saw how good Boston got once they removed Rondo from the lineup. A trouble making prima dona that other players game is stunted when on the floor with him.

     
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    Re: Jennings to Detroit means Rondo will not end up in Detroit

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    If Ainge can't get a lottery pick for Rondo then the Rondo haters would be miserable for the next 6 or 7 years as Ainge is most probably going to give Rondo a max contract.




    Just like DOc is gonna be here the next 3 years, right Fungusdamas?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

     

     
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    Re: Jennings to Detroit means Rondo will not end up in Detroit

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    Even with Rondo, Josh Smith, and Monroe, I don't think the Pistons would be a championship contender.

    Besides, finding a quality big man is harder than finding a quality PG.




    and yet you think the Celtics will sign Rondo to a max deal in two years.

     

    you are correct in the second, but i sure hope wrong in the first!

     

    Rondo for $18-20M/year will handicap a team for the whole deal.

     

     
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    What it means is Joe Dumars blinked ... he didn't have the guts to pay for what he really wanted and settled for what he needed sans the greatness to get them back to their glory days. Too bad for both Piston and Celtic fans .... No trophies for the Motor City anytime soon.

     




     

    But they became a good team with potential, didn't they? Many people believe that Drummond will be a dominant defensive player in the future, Monroe is already good on offense, Smith is good, Jennings is a gunner but he's young and has a room to improve. Don't know much about the rest of their roster but i think the core is good.

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    I agree, that is a good young core.  Jennings will be better with some leadership from Billups.  He has all the tools. 

    They also have MKG who should be a solid borderline starter or 6th man for many years, and another beast in the making with Tony Mitchell.  

    If they can turn Monroe into a decent SF or SG in a trade they will be a well balanced and dangerous team.

    Bradley and Crash would make them a scary defensive team, and neither of those guys would take shots away from their two new black holes.  Calling Joe Dumars.

     
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    Re: Jennings to Detroit means Rondo will not end up in Detroit

    But, but, but....I thought Rondo playing with Smith was a sure bet.  Because of high school?  The stinging slap of reality is that NBA players are way past high school, and that theory of RR and JS in Detroit, or even funnier - here, wasn't going to happen because even if they are the best of friends, this is the NBA, not a summer camp pick-up game. The NBA is first and foremost a business organization, a business to make money (before winning championships), not a player's fantasy fulfillment league unless all parties are free agents and a team has the cap room.

     


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    Re: Jennings to Detroit means Rondo will not end up in Detroit

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    This ends the dream of getting Drummond or Monroe.

    Looks like the earliest a Rondo trade can happen is at the trade deadline, February of 2014.

    All this proved is that even Joe Dumars knows that having two head cases on the same team is just a stupid idea. Joe played on Isaiah Thomas led teams and ain't tryin to have two of those guys on his team. Also, the fact that the Cs played better the moment RR went down last season is gonna have every GM gun shy about having him on their team. In the back of their minds, even if they think he is a top 10 PG is, "If he doesn't work out, everyone is gonna say, What was I thinking???? How much more proof that he is overrated did I need than what happened with the Celtics last season. It was so clear how they improved the moment he got hurt." That is how any consciencious GM has got to think when it comes to a decision that could possibly cost him his job. Its basic human psychology, and essential critical thinking needed for doing good business. Don't forget, the NBA is a business, not just a fan club.

     

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