Johnson #1 trade
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Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/23/2011 10:35 PM EDT
Newell big man award, big 10 player of the year, big 10 defensive player of the year, all-american little light but 7ft2in wingspan, can shoot, has length and is an athlete so many should be happy shot blocker man on man defense weak -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/23/2011 10:37 PM EDT
The 6’10, 220-pound glass of water can run the floor, jump, and possesses a wingspan that would bring a smile to Jay Bilas’s face. During his senior year at Purdue, Johnson extended his jump shot range and became the Big Ten’s Player of the Year. He used a diverse offensive game and explosive athleticism to score more than 20 points per game as a senior, and defended well enough to be named the Big Ten’s Defensive Player of the Year.
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Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/23/2011 10:40 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Johnson #1 trade:The 6’10, 220-pound glass of water can run the floor, jump, and possesses a wingspan that would bring a smile to Jay Bilas’s face. During his senior year at Purdue, Johnson extended his jump shot range and became the Big Ten’s Player of the Year. He used a diverse offensive game and explosive athleticism to score more than 20 points per game as a senior, and defended well enough to be named the Big Ten’s Defensive Player of the Year. He also shoot 80% from the line.
Posted by Kirk6You do realize that Marshon Brooks already has the NBA size to play his position and also has the same wingspan...But hopefully this JJJ kid works out. Brooks didn't look like he could adjust to not handling the ball constantly and starting. He didn't look like someone who could come off the bench and only take 5 shots per game... -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/23/2011 10:41 PM EDT
In Response to Johnson #1 trade:Newell big man award, big 10 player of the year, big 10 defensive player of the year, all-american little light but 7ft2in wingspan, can shoot, has length and is an athlete so many should be happy shot blocker man on man defense weak
Posted by maryngaryBrooks has the potential to be a great scorer in NBA and would help behind Allen and PP right way. I don't think that was a good trade, Ainge should have kept Marshon Brooks. Too bad... -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/23/2011 10:42 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Johnson #1 trade:In Response to Re: Johnson #1 trade : You do realize that Marshon Brooks already has the NBA size to play his position and also has the same wingspan... But hopefully this JJJ kid works out. Brooks didn't look like he could adjust to not handling the ball constantly and starting. He didn't look like someone who could come off the bench and only take 5 shots per game...
Posted by Artist-Frmrly-Knwn-As-NickC1188
Screw Brooks, he's a New Jersey Net who can't defend. -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/23/2011 10:44 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Johnson #1 trade:In Response to Re: Johnson #1 trade : Screw Brooks, he's a New Jersey Net who can't defend.
Posted by Kirk6Yea but his thing (scoring) instantly translates into the NBA (on a team like New Jersey where he can start and shoot a lot more often)If Johnson needs to bulk up first, his defensive prowess won't help right away.We'll see. I like it. They got what they needed (size). I still hope they can sign Chandler or (much more likely) Dalembert -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/23/2011 10:47 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Johnson #1 trade:In Response to Re: Johnson #1 trade : Yea but his thing (scoring) instantly translates into the NBA (on a team like New Jersey where he can start and shoot a lot more often) If Johnson needs to bulk up first, his defensive prowess won't help right away. We'll see. I like it. They got what they needed (size). I still hope they can sign Chandler or (much more likely) Dalembert
Posted by Artist-Frmrly-Knwn-As-NickC1188
Are you kidding? We could have used him in the playoffs this year.
We need bigs, not tweeners who can't defend. -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/23/2011 10:52 PM EDT
Kirk6, totally agree. Brooks appeared to be a scorer but nothing else (not a passer or a defender). However, the Celtics need capable big men. JJJ seems to be an athletic big man who has decent offensive skills and can defend.
It's a great accomplishment to be the Big Ten Conference Player of the Year AND the Conference Defensive Player of the Year.
If all JJJ needs to do to improve is get stronger, then I'm happy with the pick. Now, only if we got lucky enough to see Jeremy Tyler still on the board at #55 that would be even better (oh well, Charlotte just took him). -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/23/2011 10:53 PM EDT
and we have NO chance with chandler. i hope i'm wrong, but i don't see that as even remotely possible. -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/23/2011 10:56 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Johnson #1 trade:In Response to Johnson #1 trade : Brooks has the potential to be a great scorer in NBA and would help behind Allen and PP right way. I don't think that was a good trade, Ainge should have kept Marshon Brooks. Too bad...
Posted by jonrob777
So the Cs keep him then how do you address their biggest need which is a big who can defend? Marshon is good but guys his size are a lot easier to come by then a 6 10 athletic guy who can defend score and shoots over 80% from the line.... -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/23/2011 11:07 PM EDT
Well, there's nobody left in the draft that has a prayer of making the team...why bother. kinda bummed with the JaJuan trade, but I hope he fills out and pans out. -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/24/2011 12:00 AM EDT
I think overall we should be happy got our big man and one with some upside. Not sure what to think about Etawn. Guess we got another twan.
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Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/24/2011 12:04 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Johnson #1 trade:I think overall we should be happy got our big man and one with some upside. Not sure what to think about Etawn. Guess we got another twan.
Posted by deanocelt
Good one. -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/24/2011 12:05 AM EDT
Let's see how Moore pans out first. He could catch on if he plays the PG position and can defend.
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Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/24/2011 12:09 AM EDT
NBA Comparison: N/A
Strengths: A winner who leaves Purdue tied for the most wins (107) in program history in his 4 years … Productive and efficient player who put up good scoring totals … Has a nice jumper, and it is definitely the pillar of his offensive game … Can make shots spotting up, coming off screens, in isolation, and in the pick and roll … A quick, easy release and supreme confidence in his shot…Solid ability to make shots with a hand in his face …Very crafty and instinctive about how he creates his offense … Rarely seems rushed on the floor … Takes care of the ball…Possesses strong basic passing skills … Developed his ball-handling steadily over his career … Effective pick and roll player…Steady on-ball defender who plays with toughness and good fundamentals … Possesses a 6’9 wingspan that will help him on the defensive end, despite his mediocre athletic and physical tools
Weaknesses: Moore isn’t very athletic … Not very explosive or quick … Will struggle to drive the lane in the NBA, and will find it even harder to finish at the rim … 1st step is below average and ball-handling is mediocre at best … Struggled to get separation on his drives in college … Not going to break down anyone off the dribble…Has a hard time creating good shots when defended by more athletic defenders who can crowd him … Often will shoot highly contested pull-up jump shots when he can’t get to the rim … Mediocre to below average size for a SG ... Some teams may want him to be a combo guard, but he’s definitely not a PG … Won’t handle the ball as much as he did at Purdue … Can be inconsistent from game-to-game as a shooter … Can be beaten off the dribble by quick guards and savvy ball-handlers … Needs to get stronger and bigger to deal with the SG’s he’ll face in the pros
Notes: One of the most productive players in this draft and a classic overachiever, Moore could have a future as an off-ball shooter and steady defender in the NBA. He’s tough and comes from one of the best defensive teams in the NCAA. His below average athleticism and physical tools hold him back, but he’s winning pedigree and production could get him picked in the 2nd round. -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/24/2011 12:26 AM EDT
You do realize that Marshon Brooks already has the NBA size to play his position and also has the same wingspan...But hopefully this JJJ kid works out. Brooks didn't look like he could adjust to not handling the ball constantly and starting. He didn't look like someone who could come off the bench and only take 5 shots per game...
Great post, true marshon is a very good scorer, but the guy had one of the worst usage rates (avg 18fg attempts a game) the least he could do is drop 25. He aint gonna get more than 5-8 shots a game with the cs. On a team like the the nets he might put up some numbers though. As far as Johnson I really like the pick hes very long,athletic a good weakside defender and can really shoot the mid range shot. He really fits a need too. -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/24/2011 12:56 AM EDT
I think this was a ho-hum draft. This must be a very small part of the plan Doc and DA have in mind. -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/24/2011 1:17 AM EDT
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/seth_davis/06/22/draft.prospects/1.html Here's a little bit on Johnson that should cheer you up. -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/24/2011 1:47 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Johnson #1 trade:In Response to Re: Johnson #1 trade : Yea but his thing (scoring) instantly translates into the NBA (on a team like New Jersey where he can start and shoot a lot more often) If Johnson needs to bulk up first, his defensive prowess won't help right away. We'll see. I like it. They got what they needed (size). I still hope they can sign Chandler or (much more likely) Dalembert
Posted by Artist-Frmrly-Knwn-As-NickC1188
You think he'll start ahead of Morrow? -
Re: Johnson #1 trade
posted at 6/24/2011 4:51 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Johnson #1 trade:In Response to Re: Johnson #1 trade : You think he'll start ahead of Morrow?
Posted by Mployee8Why do you love Morrow so much?Ray Allen is not only the best shooter in the NBA today, he also has an expiring contract that would help the Celtics clear cap space in 2012. Trading Ray Allen is a stupid idea. Just saying?Ray Allen = Humphries/Petro/Morrow
NJ does this trade as it gives them two legit stars and helps them attract another FA in Gasol, Nene, West, Dalembert, Chandler, etc.Re: What could Ray Allen bring us??
posted at 5/18/2011 2:31 AM EDTRay Allen = Humphries/Petro/Morrow
NJ does this trade as it gives them two legit stars and helps them attract another FA in Gasol, Nene, West, Dalembert, Chandler, etc.
