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    Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/4/2012 11:38 PM EST

    Some say he's a chucker. What you guys think?

    I still believe the Celts are one big man away from being an elite team.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/4/2012 11:43 PM EST

    A center and i think we have a chance this year... Kman fits the system..
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/4/2012 11:44 PM EST

    Im with you, as long as RR is not in the deal....
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/4/2012 11:48 PM EST

    The center thing needs to be addressed.... JO needs to say he is going for surgery or call it quits
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/4/2012 11:49 PM EST

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    Im with you, as long as RR is not in the deal....
    Posted by Ortiz123


    After today's performance, Rondo's not going to be involved in any deals. 

    Adding Kaman would make Brandon Bass a 6th man again, making our bench better.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/4/2012 11:50 PM EST

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    A center and i think we have a chance this year... Kman fits the system..
    Posted by cabutan


    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-R4iPsbPQs5E/Tj4CHrAiqBI/AAAAAAAAAFs/UbbWSjAOnyU/s400/Photo+of+a+lemming.jpg
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/4/2012 11:53 PM EST

    The fuzz is here... Haa ..
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 12:47 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?:
    In Response to Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick? : After today's performance, Rondo's not going to be involved in any deals.  Adding Kaman would make Brandon Bass a 6th man again, making our bench better.
    Posted by Fiercest34


    How do you make the salaries match?  That is the key to evaluate the proposal.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 12:54 AM EST

    Up and down season has us going  up now.
    Don't know if DA is convinced yet, but if this trend continues short term (another week), I am convinced he will find someway to get the big man we so desperately need to have a decent shot at a banner.
    No big man, no deep run.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 1:24 AM EST

    I'd rather have more of a post player and a player that is known as a rebounder.  Kaman is decent in the paint, but also takes a lot of outside shots, and we already have one big in KG who shoots jumpers.  But to only give up a 1st for him, yeah, he's worth that.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 1:45 AM EST

    NO would have to waive $6M in salary to get below the cap to be able to get something for Kaman w/o matching salaries ... that's why most are waiting for them to waive Kaman.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 2:35 AM EST

    No way we give up a first.  Not another jump shooter.  I say roll with what we have.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 5:01 AM EST

    I know we need a big man
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 7:19 AM EST

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    NO would have to waive $6M in salary to get below the cap to be able to get something for Kaman w/o matching salaries ... that's why most are waiting for them to waive Kaman.
    Posted by Mployee8


    You can't get under the cap by waving a player.
    Kaman is not going to agree to lose millions of dollars so he can be picked up by another team.

     
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 7:45 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?:
    NO would have to waive $6M in salary to get below the cap to be able to get something for Kaman w/o matching salaries ... that's why most are waiting for them to waive Kaman.
    Posted by Mployee8


    They have to buy him out and no I would not give up a 1st round pick for a big that is shooting 40% and he would likely wind up on the Heat anyway.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 8:03 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?:
    In Response to Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick? : How do you make the salaries match?  That is the key to evaluate the proposal.
    Posted by prakash


    The Celts would have to trade JO, Dooling, Stiemsma, Daniels, Moore, and Sasha to make the salaries match.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 8:06 AM EST

    Waiting for Kaman to get bought out is a mistake. Once Kaman becomes a free-agent, he could go to the Hawks, Heat, or Sixers. All those teams are potential 1st round opponents of the Celts.

    Ainge needs to get creative.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 10:07 AM EST

    forget about this year. no more band-aids. we need to plan for next year and beyond. if kaman fits into that plan, then fine. but no more band-aids to try and fix this year. too many obstacles.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 10:12 AM EST

    Bringing Chris Kaman aboard this year is part of the future, especially if you can get him for a bunch of undesirabe expiring contracts and a draft pick that will likely be somewhere in the 20s. Remember that extending a player on your own roster doesn't count against the cap. If ownership doesn't care about paying luxury taxes, the Celtics could re-sign all three of Kaman, Garnett and Allen, and still have enough money to bring in two max players. But if Kaman is not already in Boston, then the Celtics would have to use some of that free agent money on him, plus deal with other teams placing bids. Realistically, Kaman is the best the Celtics can hope for at center. Gasol won't be coming to the Celtics and Howard likely won't be either. Get him now and he helps this year, while simultaneously keeping money open for free agency.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 10:15 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?:
    forget about this year. no more band-aids. we need to plan for next year and beyond. if kaman fits into that plan, then fine. but no more band-aids to try and fix this year. too many obstacles.
    Posted by kaktug


    Even if we lose Kaman to free-agency next year, we have a lot of money to offer Hibbert, Brook Lopez, and even McGee. All three are restricted FAs.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 10:16 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?:
    Waiting for Kaman to get bought out is a mistake. Once Kaman becomes a free-agent, he could go to the Hawks, Heat, or Sixers. All those teams are potential 1st round opponents of the Celts. Ainge needs to get creative.
    Posted by Fiercest34


    Nobody is trading for Chis Kaman. They are all waiting for a buyout and he's not the piece that would put the Celtics over the top so frankly I don't really care.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 10:17 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?:
    In Response to Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick? : Nobody is trading for Chis Kaman. They are all waiting for a buyout and he's not the piece that would put the Celtics over the top so frankly I don't really care.
    Posted by tompenny


    We'll see.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 10:17 AM EST

    Even if we lose Kaman to free-agency next year, we have a lot of money to offer Hibbert, Brook Lopez, and even McGee. All three are restricted FAs.

    The Celtics could theoretically have Kaman and one of those guys on the same team, plus retain Garnett in a reduced role. The advantage of being able to sign your own player to more money than anyone else, and not have it count against the cap, clearly makes a Kaman acquisition worth a low 20s first round pick and undesirable expiring contracts.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 10:21 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?:
    Even if we lose Kaman to free-agency next year, we have a lot of money to offer Hibbert, Brook Lopez, and even McGee. All three are restricted FAs. The Celtics could theoretically have Kaman and one of those guys on the same team, plus retain Garnett in a reduced role. The advantage of being able to sign your own player to more money than anyone else, and not have it count against the cap, clearly makes a Kaman acquisition worth a low 20s first round pick and undesirable expiring contracts.
    Posted by davidap


    Agree.
     

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    Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?

    posted at 3/5/2012 10:31 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Kaman Worth A 1st round pick?:
    Even if we lose Kaman to free-agency next year, we have a lot of money to offer Hibbert, Brook Lopez, and even McGee. All three are restricted FAs. The Celtics could theoretically have Kaman and one of those guys on the same team, plus retain Garnett in a reduced role. The advantage of being able to sign your own player to more money than anyone else, and not have it count against the cap, clearly makes a Kaman acquisition worth a low 20s first round pick and undesirable expiring contracts.
    Posted by davidap


    Kaman is not worth 1st rounder and your on something if you think Ainge thinks Kaman is a piece he want's on his team for years to come. That's the whole point of not giving them a first rounder because he would be a rental.