Keeping everybody happy strategy.

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    Keeping everybody happy strategy.

    On back to backs


    1st nighters and 2nd nighters


    Rondo-Bradley-Green-Sully-Faverani play 30 mins


    On the second night, Smart-Thornton-Turner-Bass-Olynyk play 30 mins


    That could lead to a healthy competition of which squad is better!


     

     
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    Excellent. Given similar competition we see who loses by the least. Isn't it past our bedtime ?  Noone has posted here for like three days.

     
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    there has never been a rotation like that that i can remember in the NBA.  and there won't be on the celts this year.  we will stink and few people will be happy.  the only problem is that we haven't made much ground in the rebuilding effort.  i think that's what will keep people unhappy.  it's okay to stink for a while but some progress needs to be made.  perhaps mid season trade of rondo will lighten things up a bit. 

     
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    there has never been a rotation like that that i can remember in the NBA.  and there won't be on the celts this year.  we will stink and few people will be happy.  the only problem is that we haven't made much ground in the rebuilding effort.  i think that's what will keep people unhappy.  it's okay to stink for a while but some progress needs to be made.  perhaps mid season trade of rondo will lighten things up a bit. 



    I'm not suggesting we change the starters from night to night. We just change the minutes of the squads. Theoretically it should be a good way to preserve players health and competitive spirit.

     
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    there has never been a rotation like that that i can remember in the NBA.  and there won't be on the celts this year.  we will stink and few people will be happy.  the only problem is that we haven't made much ground in the rebuilding effort.  i think that's what will keep people unhappy.  it's okay to stink for a while but some progress needs to be made.  perhaps mid season trade of rondo will lighten things up a bit. 



    I'm not suggesting we change the starters from night to night. We just change the minutes of the squads. Theoretically it should be a good way to preserve players health and competitive spirit.




    i agree with your theory but i can't remember any recent or even far into the past examples of this technique being used.  the best development for these kids will be bigger chunks of PT but there's a lot of PT to be spread out over a finite number of position minutes.

    i think the D league probably uses your theory more than the NBA would or has

     
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    there has never been a rotation like that that i can remember in the NBA.  and there won't be on the celts this year.  we will stink and few people will be happy.  the only problem is that we haven't made much ground in the rebuilding effort.  i think that's what will keep people unhappy.  it's okay to stink for a while but some progress needs to be made.  perhaps mid season trade of rondo will lighten things up a bit. 



    I'm not suggesting we change the starters from night to night. We just change the minutes of the squads. Theoretically it should be a good way to preserve players health and competitive spirit.




    i agree with your theory but i can't remember any recent or even far into the past examples of this technique being used.  the best development for these kids will be bigger chunks of PT but there's a lot of PT to be spread out over a finite number of position minutes.

    i think the D league probably uses your theory more than the NBA would or has



    I think its because most teams dont have the depth we have. They usually have CLEAR starters and CLEAR role players. Our only clear starter is Rondo.

     
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    I'm not really sure Rondo will be playing back to backs at the beginning of the season anyway.

    Stevens will give 30 to whoever deserves it on that night.  I like your idea, it's innovative, but impractical because players "competing" for mins can't KNOW they will play 30 mins no matter what.

    If they produce, they will play.............

    "Climb on my back, boys, and I'll take you home." - Cedric Maxwell

    "You show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Red Auerbach

    "My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." - Hedley Lamarr

    If no Bynum injury, no Gasol trade - last word!!

     
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    Re: Keeping everybody happy strategy.

    In response to DaCeltics' comment:

    On back to backs

     

    1st nighters and 2nd nighters

     

    Rondo-Bradley-Green-Sully-Faverani play 30 mins

     

    On the second night, Smart-Thornton-Turner-Bass-Olynyk play 30 mins

     

    That could lead to a healthy competition of which squad is better!

     

     

      What about Zeller and Young? Forget Bass, Fav and Thornton. I don't think any of them sees much time.


     
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    Re: Keeping everybody happy strategy.

    In response to hedleylamarr's comment:

    I'm not really sure Rondo will be playing back to backs at the beginning of the season anyway.

    Stevens will give 30 to whoever deserves it on that night.  I like your idea, it's innovative, but impractical because players "competing" for mins can't KNOW they will play 30 mins no matter what.

    If they produce, they will play.............

    "Climb on my back, boys, and I'll take you home." - Cedric Maxwell

    "You show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Red Auerbach

    "My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." - Hedley Lamarr

    If no Bynum injury, no Gasol trade - last word!!




    he is completely back, no reason he wont be playing back to backs.

     
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    Re: Keeping everybody happy strategy.

    This strategy will help us find out if Thornton can give us what Ray Allen used to.

    Can Turner give us the production Pierce used to?

    Can anyone give us the defense and offense and rebounding KG used to? (Zeller,Faverani,Sully,Kells, Anthony)

    Can anyone give us the hard picks and blocks Perk gave us? (I dont see anyone we currently have filling that role. (Sully is too gentle and pudgy)

     
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    Sully needs some martial arts and yoga , Oly weight lifting, and Odnor, the man whose name we dare not say,  some Zen shooting  and  personality reconstruction

     
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    We have a bunch of skilled gentlemen. Our only pitbull is Rondo. You dont need them, I just prefer them.

    I like physical big men because a playoff team is going to have a bunch of them. Thats the time when your big men make or break you.

     
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    Re: Keeping everybody happy strategy.

    Shooting and defense squad-

    Rondo/Smart,Bradley,Wallace/Green,Bass,Anthony

    Scoring squad-

    Rondo,Thornton,Turner,Sully,Olynyk

    All Defense squad-

    Rondo,Bradley,Smart,Bass,Anthony

    Rangers squad-

    Thornton,Bradley,Turner,Green, Faverani

     

     
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    Re: Keeping everybody happy strategy.

    I cannot wait until the actual games begin.

     
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    Re: Keeping everybody happy strategy.

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    On back to backs

     

    1st nighters and 2nd nighters

     

    Rondo-Bradley-Green-Sully-Faverani play 30 mins

     

    On the second night, Smart-Thornton-Turner-Bass-Olynyk play 30 mins

     

    That could lead to a healthy competition of which squad is better!

     

     



    I'm still waiting to see if Brad Stevens employs this strategy on back-to-backs!

     
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    Re: Keeping everybody happy strategy.

    I think you can build a regular rotation with 10 players averaging 20 to 24 minutes and then it shouldn't matter if you're playing back to backs.

     
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    I think you can build a regular rotation with 10 players averaging 20 to 24 minutes and then it shouldn't matter if you're playing back to backs.



    I guess so. I think players like getting 30 or more sometimes. 

     
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    Re: Keeping everybody happy strategy.

    At this point the only person I want to see keep being happy is DACeltics. 

     
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    At this point the only person I want to see keep being happy is DACeltics. 



    Ha ha ha. A little upset lottery reform wasnt a set in stone rotation of 1st pick last pick 2nd pick, second to the last pick and so on for each round.

    Teams and GM's benefit by knowing exactly where a pick they trade is going to be. Duh!

    Set the opening order by age of the franchise then alphabetically by city for similarly aged franchises.

    A set preordered rotation is best for the NBA and its fans. You still have the thrill of guessing if a team will trade their pick, try to get another in that draft, or who will they pick, How will the rookie mesh with the established roster.

    Because eventually you're going to have a team win the NBA championship and then have the #1 pick in the next draft. Do they keep it? 

    Still plenty of drama surrounding that type of draft system.

    The best part is teams dont get blown up to start losing. We could actually have kept our franchise guys until they retired in that system! (Pierce, Garnett)

     
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    Re: Keeping everybody happy strategy.

    NBA terms I think make sense:

    Traditional One- pass-first general  (Rondo)

    Stretch One- 3 point specialist that can handle the ball a little and pass a little and/or guard a point (Eddie House)

    Combo One- Score-first general that passes well enough and stretches the D from 3. (Iverson, Marbury,Westbrook)

    Power One - A score-first bully penetrator and post up threat that gets a few assists or a lot in some cases. Not a serious deep threat. (Dennis Johnson, Gary Payton, Mark Jackson, Raymond Felton)

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    Traditional Two- Scorer plain and simple, inside and out by means of the stroke or floater or penetration. (Ray Allen)

     

    Stretch Two- Reliable 3 shooter and not much else. (Dell Curry)

     

    Combo Two- 2 guard sized scorer that passes really well. (Evan Turner)

     

    Power Two- A bully defender and/or scorer. Not a serious deep threat. (Tony Allen)

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    Traditional Three-  Slasher with a reliable 3 ball that can rebound a little.(Jeff Green)

     

    Stretch Three- Tall and quick 3 point specialist. (Kyle Korver)

     

    Combo Three- Tall and quick, and does everything well. Rebound,pass,shoot,slash, post up. (Lebron,Carmelo)

     

    Power Three- A bully scorer in the post that is tall, strong and quick and is a reliable outside shooter and rebounder. Not a serious deep threat. (Brandon Bass)

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    Traditional Four- Tim Duncan, Kevin McHale(low post dominant)

    Stretch Four- Rashard Lewis, Robert Horry(perimeter dominant)

    Power Four- Dennis Rodman, Anthony Mason(Physically dominant)

    Combo Four- Kevin Garnett, Karl Malone, Kevin Love, Jared Sullinger(All-around dominant)

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    Traditional Five- Kareem, Russell, Brook Lopez(low post dominant)

    Stretch Five-Bill Laimbeer,Brad Miller, Kelly Olynyk(perimeter dominant)

    Power Five- Shaq, Wilt, Dwight Howard(Physically dominant)

    Combo Five- Olajuwan, David Robinson, The Gasol's(All-around dominant)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Re: Keeping everybody happy strategy.

    So here's how I would classify our players:

    T1- Rondo, Pressey 

    P1- Smart

    T2- Bradley, Thornton

    C2- Turner

    T3- Jeff Green,Gerald Wallace 

    S3- James Young

    P3- Brandon Bass

    S4-Powell

    C4- Sullinger

    S5- Olynk, Faverani

    T5- Zeller

    The Rockets will feature a P5 in Howard which we do not have. Perk was our last P5.

    You need a good P5/C5 to do well in the post season. We don't currently have either.Or a great T5.

    I would classify Marc Gasol as a great C5 because of his ability to bang in the post and stretch the D.

     

     

     

     
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