Posted by TeamUmbutu
KG is the key
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Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 11:22 AM EDT
In Response to Re: KG is the key:Ha Ha, kind of like when you see a post that says Paul is not the greatest, or if some one highlights the accomplishments KG because it might make Paul look like a lesser player.
Posted by TeamUmbutuIt's really funny that you guys buy into that ky vs. Fierce act. My friends in real life see me every week wearing a Ray Allen jersey when we're playing basketball. Get it?This is not about KG vs. Pierce. You don't see me telling people here that they will get hit by a tsunami if they post something bad about Pierce. -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 11:29 AM EDT
Criticizing KG doesn't mean you don't like KG.I watched the Celts/Pacers game on league pass. When KG missed both FTs late in the 4th qtr., Quinn Buckner said it was shocking to see an 86% FT shooter miss both FTs.I love KG. But if KG is all bark and no bite then who are we kidding when we say the Celts will get banner #18 this season. -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 11:52 AM EDT
Sorry P...34
my violin is not working today.
Your right, it is not about KG or Pierce, it is about KG, Pierce, and the team. It is nice to see that you finally recognize that fact.
There is also a difference between valid critisim and constant critism.
... ever notice that if you like someone, they can do no wrong, and if you don't like someone, they can do no right?
Usually, I only respond to the ones that fall into the second category. However, I sometimes make an exception for some off the wall posts, and ones where I can provide a different point of view. -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 11:59 AM EDT
In Response to Re: KG is the key:Sorry P...34 my violin is not working today. Your right, it is not about KG or Pierce, it is about KG, Pierce, and the team. It is nice to see that you finally recognize that fact. There is also a difference between valid critisim and constant critism. ... ever notice that if you like someone, they can do no wrong, and if you don't like someone, they can do no right? Usually, I only respond to the ones that fall into the second category. However, I sometimes make an exception for some off the wall posts, and ones where I can provide a different point of view.
Posted by TeamUmbutuI'm critical of KG this season because I know for a fact that if he doesn't step up this Celtics team will not win another championship. -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 1:08 PM EDT
I thought Ray Allen was the key he has to score 20 or we lose... now it's KG is the Key.... basically its whoever did bad that day and we lose that becomes the key... -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 1:18 PM EDT
Hilarious to see celtic fans putting all their eggs in the Shaq basket. LMAO
Shaq is foul prone when he does play, and will see limited minutes regardless, due to his physical shape or lack thereof. I am so glad that Jerry Buss got rid of that lard when he did, and I hope you celtic fans enjoy the garbage (Shaq) that Danny pulled out of the dumpster.
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Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 1:20 PM EDT
In Response to Re: KG is the key:Expect Bynum to develop more serious knee injuries as the pressure grows in the payoffs. Something about his DNA that makes his knees weak when the heat is on.
Posted by Karllost
Like Game 7 of the Finals last year when he missed the game due to injury?? Oh wait, that was perkins.
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Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 1:55 PM EDT
It is interesting to note the level of knowledge LA fans have in regard to history.
For example:
Did you know:
1. That it was the Minneapolis Lakers that won the first five championships claimed by the LA Lakers?
2. That when Shaq left the Lakers, He helped his new team, the Heat, win a championship.
3. That it was Kobe's knee that took out Perk in game six of the finals?
Come back when you have something of substance to say. -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 2:01 PM EDT
In Response to Re: KG is the key:In Response to Re: KG is the key : I'm critical of KG this season because I know for a fact that if he doesn't step up this Celtics team will not win another championship.
Posted by Fiercest34
* Sarcasm Alert*
KG doesnt have to do anything but pass to Ray Allen... long as Ray scores 20 we will win!! -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 2:13 PM EDT
In Response to Re: KG is the key:It is interesting to note the level of knowledge LA fans have in regard to history. For example: Did you know: 1. That it was the Minneapolis Lakers that won the first five championships claimed by the LA Lakers? 2. That when Shaq left the Lakers, He helped his new team, the Heat, win a championship. 3. That it was Kobe's knee that took out Perk in game six of the finals? Come back when you have something of substance to say.
Posted by TeamUmbutu
Kobe 5 championships
No player with boston has won more than 1 ring with the celts. How's that for substance?! -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 2:50 PM EDT
In Response to Re: KG is the key:More Substance: rondo's ring + kg's ring + paula's ring + ray's ring = 4 rings D Fish = 5 rings LMAO
Posted by Tayshawn
Ouch!! That's gotta hurt celtic fans.
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Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 4:40 PM EDT
No player in Boston?
Hmm.
Of course you must meen other than
Russell with 9 and several others with more than 5. -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 4:49 PM EDT
http://www.nbauniverse.com/championships/players_with_most_titles.htm
Many of the Celtics players have won more championships than any other players in the NBA. Lakers fans who posted about Celtics championships, are probably about 12 or younger and only remember the last several years. -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 7:47 PM EDT
In Response to Re: KG is the key:In Response to Re: KG is the key : * Sarcasm Alert* KG doesnt have to do anything but pass to Ray Allen... long as Ray scores 20 we will win!!
Posted by KGLoveThat 18-4 record when Ray scores at least 20 points is a regular season record. The Celtics are most likely coming out of the east. If by some miracle it will be Celtics/Lakers again in the Finals, the Celtics will not beat the Lakers if Gasol keeps outplaying KG.It is what it is, KGLove. In their last 7 games the Celtics are just 3-4. And in those 7 games Ray only scored 20 points once, against the Hornets.You're not being realistic if you think the Celtics will win a lot of games, even if Ray scores 20 or more, if KG just gets 6 pts and 6 rebs in a game. If KG is his normal self, 15 ppg and 9 rpg, usually the Celts win if Ray scores 20 points or more. -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 7:50 PM EDT
In Response to Re: KG is the key:http://www.nbauniverse.com/championships/players_with_most_titles.htm Many of the Celtics players have won more championships than any other players in the NBA. Lakers fans who posted about Celtics championships, are probably about 12 or younger and only remember the last several years.
Posted by susan250Just like after 30 years from now young Laker fans will remember the 2010 champion Lakers as the "animal kingdom". Kobe the dog, Gasol the Llama, and Phil the goat. -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/30/2011 10:11 PM EDT
In Response to Re: KG is the key:Seattle, Wow, you really don't like KG. ... maybe its the radiation in the water.
Posted by TeamUmbutu
i like him more than you think. under certain circumstances his fine. it's when the team has to depend on him to play strong inside that i don't like him. he's big enough that he should be able to do it, but he does not ahve the toughness. yet he pretends he's tough with his fist pumping and facial expression. -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/31/2011 10:46 AM EDT
I don't agree.
I have followed KG since he first entered the league, and his game is his game.
It has not really changed since his league MVP year in 2004. While he occasionally plays in the low post, his weight is such that bigger stronger people can prevent his getting close to the basket, much like Baby and Perk do to Howard. His game on offense is versatile offense. some low post, some jump shooting, drawing the double team, and passing to the open man, and with the Celtics there is a lot of pick setting and pick and roll.
On defense his role is to be the leader of the defense, and free safety. He is one of the few players in the NBA that can guard almost anyone. In his younger days he could guard anyone, and did.
Toughness-
That stuff you talk about, pounding his chest, and making faces is something that he does to get himself up and motivated. Sometimes he also rattles others.
That is not toughness. What is toughness, is bringing everything he has every night for fourteen years, like no other player that I have ever seen.
This is not the boxing, or Karate, toughness is not defined by the ability to beat someone up, it is defined by doing what is necessary to win, even at the expense of personal glory. It is about diving to the floor for loose balls when no one else would, it is about making stops on defense when others concentrate on the glory part of basketball, offense. It is about playing hard every night even if you don't feel like it. KG defines toughness for the NBA.
I understand that some fans would like him to play more low post, as I would, because he is good at it. However, even with his approach, he has always been one of the top field goal percentage player in the league. Someone once asked Flip Saunders why KG did not play more low post. He said something like, it does not really matter because he is still usually the number one or number two field goal percentage shooters in the league.
You may or may not like his game, but I don't see how anyone can legitimately question his toughness. -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/31/2011 11:01 AM EDT
In Response to Re: KG is the key:I don't agree. I have followed KG since he first entered the league, and his game is his game. It has not really changed since his league MVP year in 2004. While he occasionally plays in the low post, his weight is such that bigger stronger people can prevent his getting close to the basket, much like Baby and Perk do to Howard. His game on offense is versatile offense. some low post, some jump shooting, drawing the double team, and passing to the open man, and with the Celtics there is a lot of pick setting and pick and roll. On defense his role is to be the leader of the defense, and free safety. He is one of the few players in the NBA that can guard almost anyone. In his younger days he could guard anyone, and did. Toughness- That stuff you talk about, pounding his chest, and making faces is something that he does to get himself up and motivated. Sometimes he also rattles others. That is not toughness. What is toughness, is bringing everything he has every night for fourteen years, like no other player that I have ever seen. This is not the boxing, or Karate, toughness is not defined by the ability to beat someone up, it is defined by doing what is necessary to win, even at the expense of personal glory. It is about diving to the floor for loose balls when no one else would, it is about making stops on defense when others concentrate on the glory part of basketball, offense. It is about playing hard every night even if you don't feel like it. KG defines toughness for the NBA. I understand that some fans would like him to play more low post, as I would, because he is good at it. However, even with his approach, he has always been one of the top field goal percentage player in the league. Someone once asked Flip Saunders why KG did not play more low post. He said something like, it does not really matter because he is still usually the number one or number two field goal percentage shooters in the league. You may or may not like his game, but I don't see how anyone can legitimately question his toughness.
Posted by TeamUmbutuIt's not about FG%, it's about going to the FT line and putting the other team in the penalty. This season KG goes to the FT line 3.1 times per game. Ray Allen goes to the FT line 2.7 times per game. Still don't get it? How you could your PF just shoot as many FTs as your SG?The Celts had success when Shaq was in the starting lineup because usually teams have no choice but to foul Shaq when he gets it inside the paint. If KG continues to keep settling for outside shots then why are you still expecting the Celtics to win another championship?Pau Gasol is not a banger, he's also a finesse guy, but he goes to the FT line 5.3 times per game. Think about that! -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/31/2011 2:57 PM EDT
I should use a copy machine.
Yes P...34, he is not Paul Pierce. That is what Pierce does. ... and yes Paul is also a great Celtic player. This is not a Pierce vs. KG thread. We have done that to death.
KG has never gotten to the line to any great degree during his career, no matter what. It has nothing to do with low post or high post or pick and roll, or pick and pop, or jump shooting for KG. They just don't call the fouls, and he is not good at drawing them.
In the age of star calls, the only star call that he has ever gotten, from time to time, was on moving screens. A lot of stars in this league have gotten to the free through line when the other team has breathed on them, such as Jordan, Kobe, Durant, and now Rose... notice how I did not mention Pierce.
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Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/31/2011 3:26 PM EDT
In Response to Re: KG is the key:A lot of stars in this league have gotten to the free through line when the other team has breathed on them, such as Jordan, Kobe, Durant, and now Rose... notice how I did not mention Pierce. Happy?
Posted by TeamUmbutu
Strange? Paul Pierce told the world he was the best player in the world.
Go figure. -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/31/2011 3:59 PM EDT
During that series he was :) -
Re: KG is the key
posted at 3/31/2011 5:42 PM EDT
In Response to Re: KG is the key:In Response to Re: KG is the key : Strange? Paul Pierce told the world he was the best player in the world. Go figure.
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