Lakers universally acclaimed as the NBA'S greatest franchise

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    [QUOTE]The Lakers are universally..... The best runner up in NBA history losing 15 times in the Finals. [/QUOTE]
    Losing 15 times in the finals is still better than NOT reaching the finals 44 times.

    Of course, the next thing you'll brag is that winning the conference finals is worse than losing in the conference finals or losing in the 2nd round...

    17-48 vs 16-47

    Besides, 13 of those 17 should not count, as DoctorCO uses this criteria of "WHAT MATTERS". When you factor in personal preferences, bush league championships are nothing to write home about...




     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Lakers universally acclaimed as the NBA'S greatest franchise : Not according your own words: " Season 1947-48: Minneapolis Lakers (NBL)" You can't count the Lakers' 1947-48 season without counting their championship. You are awarded "honorary Lakers campaigner" for bringing that up...
    Posted by MajicMVP[/QUOTE]

    Even if both you and Fierce say the Lakers have 17 championships it doesn't it's true. I think you should see a shrink.
     
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    Doctor Co and Fierce -
    As I promised - NONE OF YOU GETS OFF HIS HOOK!!! - and I mean forever!!  Good luck to both of you, and go get him.  Be a Boy Scout, though, and be prepared for the same "stuff" to just be regurgitated over and over and over and......you get the point!!

    Whether it makes sense or not is up to you  - LOL!!
     
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    History

    Team Records: Games,Victories,Defeats

    Records updated through the 2008-09 season
    Most Games
    8 Dallas, V-VI, X, XII-XIII, XXVII-XXVIII, XXX
    Pittsburgh, IX-X, XIII-XIV, XXX, XL, XLIII, XLV
    6 Denver, XII, XXI-XXII, XXIV, XXXII-XXXIII
    New England, XX, XXXI, XXXVI, XXXVIII-XXXIX, XLII
    Most Consecutive Games
    4 Buffalo, XXV-XXVIII
    3 Miami, VI-VIII
    2 Green Bay, I-II; XXXI-XXXII
    Dallas, V-VI; XII-XIII; XXVII-XXVIII
    Minnesota, VIII-IX
    Pittsburgh, IX-X; XIII-XIV
    Washington, XVII-XVIII
    Denver, XXI-XXII; XXXII-XXXIII
    San Francisco, XXIII-XXIV
    New England, XXXVIII-XXXIX
    Most Games Won
    6 Pittsburgh, IX-X, XIII-XIV, XL, XLIII
    5 San Francisco, XVI, XIX, XXIII-XXIV, XXIX
    Dallas, VI, XII, XXVII-XXVIII, XXX
    4 Green Bay, I-II, XXXI, XLV
    3 Oakland/L.A. Raiders, XI, XV, XVIII
    Washington, XVII, XXII, XXVI
    New England, XXXVI, XXXVIII-XXXIX
    N.Y. Giants, XXI, XXV, XLII
    Most Consecutive Games Won
    2 Green Bay, I-II
    Miami, VII-VIII
    Pittsburgh, IX-X, XIII-XIV
    San Francisco, XXIII-XXIV
    Dallas, XXVII-XXVIII
    Denver, XXXII-XXXIII
    New England, XXXVIII-XXXIX
    Most Games Lost
    4 Minnesota, IV, VIII-IX, XI
    Denver, XII, XXI-XXII, XXIV
    Buffalo, XXV-XXVIII
    3 Dallas, V, X, XIII
    Miami, VI, XVII, XIX
    New England, XX, XXXI, XLII
    2 Washington, VII, XVIII
    Cincinnati, XVI, XXIII
    L.A./St. Louis Rams, XIV, XXXVI
    Oakland/L.A. Raiders, II, XXXVII
    Philadelphia, XV, XXXIX
    Pittsburgh, XXX, XLV
    Most Consecutive Games Lost
    4 Buffalo, XXV-XXVIII
    2 Minnesota, VIII-IX
    Denver, XXI-XXII
     
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    Majjic mvp,

    IM STILL NOT LETTING YOU GET AWAY WITH IT...

    That is from NFL.com....That is the SB..and who has won the SB.........

    What you say is and heres how you look like a hypocrite...

    you combine titles won....

    THE NFL lists the SB as title......the title which matters because the competiton for the title..

    The other past titles...are listed as an and...YOU list the other titles like teams list division titles...

    ALSO in regards to the nba...THE NBA title is the nba title not nbl...
     
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    Majjic,

    On the nfl web site...ON there SB website..WHERE IS THE MENTION OF THE LAST TITLES...the nfl titles???..or the world championchip title??????...Where is it?..............

     
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    majjic,

    So majjic..from the pro football hall of fame.. WHATS LISTED FIRST.......

    www.profootballhof.com/assets/team_logos/patriots.png" alt="" />
    www.profootballhof.com/assets/team_logos/patriots1.png" alt="" />

    1960-1970 Boston Patriots, 1971-present New England Patriots

    The Patriots were charter members of the AFL in 1960 and played as the Boston Patriots through 1970.  Throughout the franchise's existence, the Patriots have been frequent contenders.  It was, however, most recently that New England raised their level of success.  Three Super Bowl championships in a four-year span – wins in Super Bowl XXXVI,  XXXVIII and XXXIX - have assured the Patriots place in NFL history.

    Firsts, Records, Odds & Ends

    Franchise Granted:
    November 22, 1959 as the Boston Patriots

    First Season:
    1960

    Changed name to New England Patriots:
    1971

    Stadium:
    Gillette Stadium

    Chairman and CEO:
    Robert K. Kraft

    Head Coach:
    Bill Belichick

    Super Bowl Championships:
    XXXVI, XXXVIII, XXXIX

    AFC Championships:
    1985, 1996, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2007

    AFL Eastern Division Championship:
    1963

    AFC Eastern Division Championship:
    1978, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2001

    AFC East Division Championships:
    2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2009, 2010
     
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    majjic mvp,

    heres the steelers from the pro football hall of fame..

    Whats listed first..

    SB WINS!!!!! not together with the afl titles..

    www.profootballhof.com/assets/team_logos/steelers.png" alt="" />
    www.profootballhof.com/assets/team_logos/steelers1.png" alt="" />

    1933-1939 Pittsburgh Pirates, 1940-present Pittsburgh Steelers, 1943 Phil-Pitt, 1944 Card-Pitt

    First known as the Pirates, the team changed its nickname to Steelers in 1940.  The franchise struggled for its first 40 years but made up for those tribulations in the 1970s.  In one of the most famous streaks in all of sports, the Steelers dominated the NFL during that decade.  Pittsburgh advanced to the playoffs eight straight seasons and won four Super Bowl championships in a six-year span.  The team added a record-tying fifth Super Bowl crown in the 2005 season and then in the 2008 season became the first team ever to win six Super Bowls.

    Firsts, Records, Odds & Ends

    Franchise Granted:
    July 8, 1933 as the Pirates

    First Season:
    1933

    Changed Nickname to Steelers:
    1940

    Stadium:
    Heinz Field

    Chairman Emeritus:
    Daniel M. Rooney

    President:
    Arthur J. Rooney II

    Head Coach:
    Mike Tomlin

    Super Bowl Championships:
    IX, X, XIII, XIV, XL, XLIII

    AFC Championships:
    1974, 1975, 1978, 1979, 1995, 2005, 2008, 2010

    AFC Central Division Championships:
    1972, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1983, 1984, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 2001

    AFC North Division Championships:
     2002, 2004, 2007, 2008, 2010

    All-Time Record:
    (At Start of 2011 Season)
    579-534-21

    Retired Uniform Numbers:
    #70 Ernie Stautner

     

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    majjic mvp,

    look at the washington wizards website...Does The nba give credit to them for there title won under the nbl
    ????.....Go look it up on the website?...........

    By the way..the answer is no.........

    im not letting you get away with distorting what a merger is...according to you we will still have north and the south in the usa without civil war. because the merger didnt matter...according to you we who drive nissan drive datsun...according to you you can just name policy.......we dont believe your policy. we see right through it.
     
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    Majjic,

    The only title the nba gives to washington is 1.....

    NOT 2.....

    so tell me again the lakers have 17 titles?.......

    Huh...

    and what mergers dont matter.......

    when the league lists SB..and not Sb and nfl champ..

    lol......its like taking candy from a baby
     
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    majjic,

    your the only one who makes policy!! lol...

    NBA.com says what about the lakers??...they have 16 TITLEs.....

    Sorry your wrong again...

    learn what a MERGER MEANS.....

    When leagues merge..new titles are a product..and old titles are put to bed....

    so are you going to tell us we have the south usa now as a diff country

    lol
     
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    [QUOTE]Majjic mvp, IM STILL NOT LETTING YOU GET AWAY WITH IT... That is from NFL.com....That is the SB..and who has won the SB......... What you say is and heres how you look like a hypocrite... you combine titles won.... THE NFL lists the SB as title......the title which matters because the competiton for the title.. The other past titles...are listed as an and...YOU list the other titles like teams list division titles... ALSO in regards to the nba...THE NBA title is the nba title not nbl...
    Posted by DoctorCO[/QUOTE]

    Is the NFL before the SB era still the NFL? Yes or no?

    Yes? then the Packers won 13 titles.

    No? then you lie.

    Take your pick.

    You are not getting away with it. You compare NFL titles as division titles? Who 's taking your lie here?



     
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    From the Packers site (not yet updated with the one last January):

    http://prod.static.packers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/docs/2010mediaguide_records.pdf#page=19

    Most Seasons, League Champion:
    *12  1929-31, 1936, 1939, 1944, 1961-62, 1965-67, 1996

    Most Consecutive Games Won:
    11 1928-29, 196162
    9 1931, 1936, 1997-98

    POINTS
    Seasons Leading League
    7 1931, 1936-38, 1961-62, 1996

    Most Points, Game
    57 vs Detroit, Oct 7, 1945 (57-51)

    ....

    Go ahead, tell us I am simply combining titles. You think you can get away with it?



     
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    [QUOTE]majjic mvp, heres the steelers from the pro football hall of fame.. Whats listed first.. SB WINS!!!!! not together with the afl titles.. www.profootballhof.com/assets/team_logos/steelers.png " alt="" /> www.profootballhof.com/assets/team_logos/steelers1.png " alt="" /> 1933-1939 Pittsburgh Pirates, 1940-present Pittsburgh Steelers, 1943 Phil-Pitt, 1944 Card-Pitt First known as the Pirates, the team changed its nickname to Steelers in 1940.  The franchise struggled for its first 40 years but made up for those tribulations in the 1970s.  In one of the most famous streaks in all of sports, the Steelers dominated the NFL during that decade.  Pittsburgh advanced to the playoffs eight straight seasons and won four Super Bowl championships in a six-year span.  The team added a record-tying fifth Super Bowl crown in the 2005 season and then in the 2008 season became the first team ever to win six Super Bowls. www.profootballhof.com/history/team.aspx?TeamAlias=pittsburgh-steelers&InfoTab=History " /> www.profootballhof.com/history/team.aspx?TeamAlias=pittsburgh-steelers&InfoTab=Facts "> www.profootballhof.com/history/team.aspx?TeamAlias=pittsburgh-steelers&InfoTab=Famers "> www.profootballhof.com/history/team.aspx?TeamAlias=pittsburgh-steelers&InfoTab=Greats "> Store Ben Roethlisberger Autographed Super Bowl XLIII Football $524.99   Related Stories HOF Mail Bag - Lynn Swann Ernie Stautner, 1925-2006 Steelers to face Saints in HOF Game Steelers Trivia - #1 Art Rooney, Jr. and Jack Butler visit HOF Multimedia Ernie Stautner's Enshrinement Speech Photo Galleries Pittsburgh Steelers 75th Anniversary Exhibit VIP Premiere 2007 AFC-NFC Hall of Fame Game Jack Butler Hall of Famers by Class Jerome Bettis, RB, 1993-2005 Firsts, Records, Odds & Ends Franchise Granted: July 8, 1933 as the Pirates First Season: 1933 Changed Nickname to Steelers: 1940 Stadium: Heinz Field Chairman Emeritus: Daniel M. Rooney President: Arthur J. Rooney II Head Coach: Mike Tomlin Super Bowl Championships: IX, X, XIII, XIV, XL, XLIII AFC Championships: 1974, 1975, 1978, 1979, 1995, 2005, 2008, 2010 AFC Central Division Championships: 1972, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1983, 1984, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 2001 AFC North Division Championships:  2002, 2004, 2007, 2008, 2010 All-Time Record: (At Start of 2011 Season) 579-534-21 Retired Uniform Numbers: #70 Ernie Stautner   YOUR OWNED
    Posted by DoctorCO[/QUOTE]

    You like to be hooked, I can't help it. Tell me the time that the Steelers won a championship before 1972, even a division championship. Go ahead.

    Don't you realize the Steelers were a laughing stock for decades before the Chuck Noll era? Now you are telling me the Steelers don't count anything before the SB era?

    From their official site:

    http://www.steelers.com/history/tradition-of-excellence.html

    1930s:
    After founding the Pirates in 1933, Art Rooney watched his club struggle through its first seven seasons with just 22 wins and five different head coaches. While home games were played at Forbes Field, Rooney often took his team to such cities as Johnstown, Latrobe, Youngstown, New Orleans, and Louisville in the 1930s due to competition with baseball and college football.

    In 1938 Rooney signed Colorado All-America Byron "Whizzer" White to a $15,800 contract, making White the first "big money" player in the NFL. White led the league in rushing that year and became one of the NFL's most illustrious alumni. He served 31 years as a Justice of the United States Supreme Court before retiring in 1993.

     

    1940s:
    In 1940 Rooney changed the team name to the Pittsburgh Steelers, representing the heritage of Pittsburgh. The first winning record in the organization's history came in 1942 when head coach Walt Kiesling led the Steelers to a 7-4 finish with the league-leading rushing of rookie Bill Dudley. But the next year Dudley joined the Armed Forces along with many other NFL players as the nation went to war. With rosters depleted, Rooney merged the Steelers with the Philadelphia Eagles in 1943 (Phil-Pitt "Steagles") and with the Chicago Cardinals (Card-Pitt) in 1944.

    Rooney hired legendary Pitt coach Jock Sutherland in 1946, and Dudley returned from the war to earn NFL MVP honors, leading the league in rushing, interceptions, and punt returns. Today, Dudley is a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

    Sutherland led the 1947 Steelers to an 8-4 record and a share of the Eastern division title, but they lost their first-ever postseason game, 21-0, to Philadelphia. Sutherland died suddenly the following spring while on a scouting trip.

    http://www.steelers.com/history/awards-and-honor.html

    Steelers in the Pro Bowl:

    1951
    HB Joe Geri (1)
    LB Jerry Shipkey (1)
    C Bill Walsh (1)
    1952
    HB Joe Geri (2)
    G George Hughes (1)
    LB Jerry Shipkey (2)
    C Bill Walsh (2)
    1953
    HB Lynn Chandnois (1)
    QB Jim Finks (1)
    HB Ray Mathews (1)
    DE Bill McPeak (1)
    E Elbie Nickel (1)
    LB Jerry Shipkey (3)
    DT Ernie Stautner (1)

    http://prod.static.steelers.clubs.nfl.com/assets/docs/2010_mg_Steelers_in_Postseason.pdf

    Steelers in the Postseason (31-20)

    1947 8-4 Eastern Division Playoff 12/21/47 Philadelphia 35,729 0 21 L
    1962 9-5 Playoff Bowl 1/6/63 Detroit 36,284 10 17 L

    Funny, how you think you can whitewash the history before the SB is beyond me. Let me suggest. Hack into all the NFL team sites and erase their history.

     

     

     





     
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    At the end of the day all the statistics in the world still won't change the fact that the Lakers are still falling behind the Celtics when it comes to the number of championships won. 

    And please, you're claiming the Lakers have 17 championships because Fierce said the Lakers have an NBL championship, duh! Yell
     
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    [QUOTE]Majjic, The only title the nba gives to washington is 1..... NOT 2..... so tell me again the lakers have 17 titles?....... Huh... and what mergers dont matter....... when the league lists SB..and not Sb and nfl champ.. lol......its like taking candy from a baby
    Posted by DoctorCO[/QUOTE]

    That you have to ask Fierce.

    That's what he said. He counted the Lakers' 1947-48 NBL season. Why he did that? don't ask me.
     
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    [QUOTE]majjic, your the only one who makes policy!! lol... NBA.com says what about the lakers??...they have 16 TITLEs..... Sorry your wrong again... learn what a MERGER MEANS..... When leagues merge..new titles are a product..and old titles are put to bed.... so are you going to tell us we have the south usa now as a diff country lol
    Posted by DoctorCO[/QUOTE]

    Yep, learn what a merger means.

    A merger doesn't mean the NFL would forget their records and championships before the merger.  New titles aren't put to bed, your foolish stunt of listing an AFL team and a NFL team without any pre-merger title can't save you here. The Steeler web-site proved that you are wrong, since although they didn't have any titles, they still had pro-bowlers, post-season losses...


     
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    [QUOTE]At the end of the day all the statistics in the world still won't change the fact that the Lakers are still falling behind the Celtics when it comes to the number of championships won.  And please, you're claiming the Lakers have 17 championships because Fierce said the Lakers have an NBL championship, duh! 
    Posted by Tachometrix[/QUOTE]

    Fierce, did you see that? even your fellow fans "duh" you.

    At the end of the day, it's not the # you won, but the number you won when the league "MATTERS". Ask DoctorCO. When it doesn't matter (e.g. bush league era), it doesn't count, his logic.


     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Lakers universally acclaimed as the NBA'S greatest franchise : I don't have any problems with you saying the Lakers have a 17th championship because I said they won the NBL championship in 1948. I mean everybody knows an NBL championship DOES NOT EQUAL an NBA championship. You really think Dr. Jerry Buss got it all wrong when he said the Lakers have 16 championships?
    Posted by Fiercest34[/QUOTE]

    I don't worry about Buss. As long as you recognize the Lakers' 17 championships, that's good enough. As far as NBL championship does not equal an NBA championship, not everyone knows that. Since you tried to use the Lakres' NBL 1947-48 season to argue that they had more than 47 failures, you obviously didn't know that NBA and NBL are not equal.
     
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    DoctorCO, you want to ignore the NFL before the SB era, do you think I'll let you?

    http://history.giants.com/page/Giants+in+Championship+Games

    NY Giants Championship Games:

    Year: *1927
    Score: GIANTS 13, Chicago Bears 7

    *Victory clinched the NFL Championship- there was no Championship game in 1927.

    Year: 1933
    Score: Chicago Bears 23, GIANTS 21

    Year: 1934
    Score: GIANTS 30, Chicago Bears 13

    Year: 1935
    Score: Detroit Lions 26, GIANTS 7

    Year:1938
    Score: GIANTS 23, Green Bay Packers 17

    Year: 1939
    Score: Green Bay Packers 27, GIANTS 0

    Year: 1941
    Score: Chicago Bears 37, GIANTS 9

    Year: 1944
    Score: Green Bay Packers 14, GIANTS 7

    Year: 1946
    Score: Chicago Bears 24, GIANTS 14

    Year: 1956
    Score: GIANTS 47, Chicago Bears 7

    Year: 1958
    Score: Baltimore Colts 23, GIANTS 17 (OT)

    Year: 1959
    Score: Baltimore Colts 31, GIANTS 16

    Year: 1961
    Score: Green Bay Packers 37, GIANTS 0

    Year: 1962
    Score: Green Bay Packers 16, GIANTS 7

    Year: 1963
    Score: Chicago Bears 14,GIANTS 10

    Year: 1986
    Game: SUPER BOWL XXI
    Score: GIANTS 39, Denver Broncos 20

    Year: 1990
    Game: SUPER BOWL XXV
    Score: GIANTS 20, Buffalo Bills 19

    Year: 2000
    Game: SUPER BOWL XXXV
    Score: Baltimore Ravens, 34, GIANTS 7

    Year: 2007
    Game: SUPER BOWL XLII
    Score: Giants 17, PATRIOTS 14


    I mean, you want to play this game, there are still 20+ NFL teams that can crush your lies. Your only hopes are recent expansion teams: Jaguars, Texans, Panthers, etc.
     
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    [QUOTE]Majjic, On the nfl web site...ON there SB website..WHERE IS THE MENTION OF THE LAST TITLES...the nfl titles???..or the world championchip title??????...Where is it?..............
    Posted by DoctorCO[/QUOTE]

    Umm... you really have to improve your net searching skill. You mean you can't find from NFL.com all their champions in their history?

    http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/history/pdfs/History/Past_Standings_2011.pdf

    They list the records of every season. Look at page 22-26, all the seasons prior to the Super Bowl. Now, if you can't find all the championship games before the SB era, I suggest you try remedial reading.

     

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