Re: Love & Griffin All Star debate
posted at 1/15/2011 10:57 AM EST
In Response to Re: Love & Griffin All Star debate
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Love & Griffin All Star debate : No, we're in the minority. To me Love is playing lights out. Like you said teams key on him and he still gets his. It's not like he's playing with a Big 3 and he's getting the benefits. KG was an All Star for years with the TWolves and they stunk. Why is Caron Butler even on Cfans4life list of AS players??
Posted by BiasLewis[/QUOTE]
A. Butler was on the list because he was getting votes before he got hurt (he was on the ballot) and
B. KG's Twolves never stunk it up anywhere near where these guys are. KG won 25 games in his rookie season, 40 in his second season and made the playoffs, and 45 in his third year and made the playoffs winning 2 of the 5 games (I looked it up). KG's stats resulted in wins and his team's results showed it (and everyone knew he was leading them....without him they could not make the playoffs or win games against tough teams).
So, factually, Love does not have half the team accomplishments of KG when KG was young (and KG was 19 at that time and still doing more than Love for his team).
Look, I'll never convince you that Love is a stat man.....stats that don't mean anything if you can be stopped at critical times such that your team loses ALL THE TIME. KG was never in last place and Love is 1 game from last place. I'm ok with your opinion. I understand and recognize your logic. There's no set formula for what an all star is. You see it as stats. I don't. I see it as effective play against other stars at critical times in games. I fear Carmelo at the end of a game. Same for Pau, for Duncan, for Blake, and Odom, and Dirk. I do not fear Love at any critical point. He's a team's workhorse. He's the rebounder and workaholic you want on your team. I've love to have him as a Celtic. But, my standards for "all star" mean Lebron, Pierce, Dirk, Pau, Melo, KG, Duncan, Amare, etc. Those guys carry their teams and are fierce talents. Love is not in that category in MY opinion.
I respect your opinion and understand you think a great set of stats on a last place team means you're an all star. I accept your logic. Just see my position as different and its ok to disagree.
I won't post on this anymore as I realize how strongly you disagree. See you on other more relevant threads. Have a great weekend, gents.