Re: Mavs Hammer Fakers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
posted at 1/22/2011 7:09 PM EST
In Response to Re: Mavs Hammer Fakers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mavs Hammer Fakers!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : Dudder you make all sorts of comments about guys YOU said couldn't do this and that. If I wanted to spend the time I could start naming guys YOU have thrown out there as being VERY good young players that are not. A lot of your guys are a dime a dozen also so don't act like you are the only one that can watch a game and see who the good players are because simply you are not.
Posted by OneOnOne[/QUOTE]
Being able to completely miss the point was not lost on you I can see that.
The point is simple - there are tons of descriptions that are overused and don't apply. So saying so and so is great when they are as you say "a dime a dozen" is an insult to players that are actually great.
All I am trying to get at is some sort of consensus as to the usage of terms.
I remember very distinctly someone on this board daring me to try to identify a point guard in the Cs division that is better than D West - at the time the division's point guards were Jason kidd, Steph Marbury, TJ Ford, and Allen Iverson. So every point guard in the division was better than West but this poster had already deemed West as great. There is not objective person on the planet that would call anyone other than Kidd and AI great.
What we have seen is that West has real emotional and legal problems and is at best a decent ball player - not great, not the best at his position, etc. - a decent ballplayer who without his basketball abilities would be in jail.
There are any number of posters / bloggers / fans etc. that are very good judges of talent but the use of certain words to me is a joke.
When someone says so and so is great but he is not even the best of his era, not even the top 10 at his position, etc. it insults great players and cheapens the meaning.
Of course it goes along with everything else that is going on in this country - standards in every facet of life decline on almost a daily basis.
At a time when the country can least afford it there are those that thinking graduating high school is some sort of accomplishment. Three generations ago a family whose daugher has a baby is embarrassed and ashamed and leave the town, now the average family of 4 is not two parents and two kids it is a single mother and 3 kids - the mother dropped out and the kids are destined to perpetuate the problems.
I read an article the other day about a school in Nashville where 90 girls came back from summer vacation pregnant - there were 978 kids in the school so almost 10% of the entire school was pregnant, and when you eliminate the boys (who generally don't get pregnant) fully 20% of the school was pregnant.
There are stats that show that as many as 25% of students drop out of high school and there are school districts where up to 80% of the kids drop out.
On this board, they would be called GREAT students. Maybe now you get the point.